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Awhite2490
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I've found another incidence of what I believe is the same pattern we've seen on the shirt, servers screens, and this image; on the Plasma rifle in Halo.

That's one of the best pictures I can find to show what I'm talking about, but I don't believe it's an accurate reproduction. Play the games, you can see the pattern glowing on the side of the rifle (in this image, it's the light blue glowing part).

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I'm not entirely sure if the code is the most important part of the picture.

We have 2 clues from this server that relate to the electromagnetic spectrum.

719hz relates to a position on the electromagnetic spectrum. Sound waves I believe.

This picture appears to show the same picture at 3 different positions on the spectrum: X-Ray, Visible Light, & Infrared (maybe).

I'm beginning to think that maybe the grid & the large circular object may be a particular wavelength. I don't see any other reason why the gridlines would move when the type of picture would change.

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Dunia wrote:
I'm not entirely sure if the code is the most important part of the picture.

We have 2 clues from this server that relate to the electromagnetic spectrum.

719hz relates to a position on the electromagnetic spectrum. Sound waves I believe.

(snip)


I'd like to say that the ARG has been relatively pseudo-science free, at least up to how humanity has advanced so far (slipspace is somewhat unlikely, looking forward more to Alcubierre drives).

Sound waves are not in the electromagnetic spectrum. I would do a rant about EM radiation, well, I will.

/BEGIN MINI-LECTURE

Sound waves are longitudinal waves based on rapid, propagating pulses of drastic air pressure change. Basically, air compresses at one small point because of a quick force from behind-the point just ahead of it then equalizes the pressure by absorbing as much air as possible, thus increasing its pressure and decreasing the pressure of the last point. This continues until it dies out or reaches an obstacle (I'll avoid talking about wave reflection laws). If the obstacle is an animalian eardrum, then the sound is received and translated into perception by the brain.

EM waves (light waves, xrays, gamma radiation, microwaves, radiowaves, etc.) are a complex of an electric field (of oscillating magnitude) perpendicular to a magnetic field (of proportional magnitude to the E field) propagating in a direction perpendicular to both. This of course makes EM radiation a transverse wave. Similarly to my aversion to discussing wave reflection phenomena, I'll avoid EM phenomena such as diffraction, refraction, etc.

Both types undergo reflection changes and interference (one example includes the capacity of a wave to cancel out a wave with a pi-phase-shift from it).

/END MINI-LECTURE

I don't think it's differen't types of visualization, simply because it so clearly appears as if it's the same imaging device at the top of the image. I also think it's thermal (simply because the PM's aren't out to confuse us) or possibly some kind of activity (PET's, basically a good scan for brain tumors, are highly colorful images, and once again the PM's would not want to confuse us).

The first picture isn't grayscale on the bottom, and the second picture isn't visual in either (have you ever seen a planet with a green and yellow aura and a pinkish surface?)

Only things confusing me still is 1) why the change in the foreground's color and 2) why is the smaller object repeatedly highlighted? It appears as if the viewer of the scan is highlighting the small object in red because it looks unnatural even to imaging devices to me. And yes the boxes are strange because it's not like it's any kind of zoom in.

EDIT: Happy now, Bruce?
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pondrthis wrote:
/BEGIN RANT


technically, that was a mini-lecture. Unless you hate waves Razz
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I don't hate waves, though scientific ignorance when speculating ticks my kadoodle. (Off the top of my head)

Of course, the only thing worse than THAT is when the scientific ignorance (or pseudoscience, worse) is a part of the actual fiction. This is the reason I absolutely HATED the move "the Prestige" despite it being a blockbuster smash. Tesla was a brilliant man and, though eccentric, was not that wierd. He was simply far ahead of his time. (Polyphase AC power FTW!)
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pondrthis wrote:
Dunia wrote:
I'm not entirely sure if the code is the most important part of the picture.

We have 2 clues from this server that relate to the electromagnetic spectrum.

719hz relates to a position on the electromagnetic spectrum. Sound waves I believe.

(snip)


I'd like to say that the ARG has been relatively pseudo-science free, at least up to how humanity has advanced so far (slipspace is somewhat unlikely, looking forward more to Alcubierre drives).

Sound waves are not in the electromagnetic spectrum. I would do a rant about EM radiation, well, I will.

/BEGIN MINI-LECTURE

Sound waves are longitudinal waves based on rapid, propagating pulses of drastic air pressure change. Basically, air compresses at one small point because of a quick force from behind-the point just ahead of it then equalizes the pressure by absorbing as much air as possible, thus increasing its pressure and decreasing the pressure of the last point. This continues until it dies out or reaches an obstacle (I'll avoid talking about wave reflection laws). If the obstacle is an animalian eardrum, then the sound is received and translated into perception by the brain.

EM waves (light waves, xrays, gamma radiation, microwaves, radiowaves, etc.) are a complex of an electric field (of oscillating magnitude) perpendicular to a magnetic field (of proportional magnitude to the E field) propagating in a direction perpendicular to both. This of course makes EM radiation a transverse wave. Similarly to my aversion to discussing wave reflection phenomena, I'll avoid EM phenomena such as diffraction, refraction, etc.

Both types undergo reflection changes and interference (one example includes the capacity of a wave to cancel out a wave with a pi-phase-shift from it).

/END MINI-LECTURE

I don't think it's differen't types of visualization, simply because it so clearly appears as if it's the same imaging device at the top of the image. I also think it's thermal (simply because the PM's aren't out to confuse us) or possibly some kind of activity (PET's, basically a good scan for brain tumors, are highly colorful images, and once again the PM's would not want to confuse us).

The first picture isn't grayscale on the bottom, and the second picture isn't visual in either (have you ever seen a planet with a green and yellow aura and a pinkish surface?)

Only things confusing me still is 1) why the change in the foreground's color and 2) why is the smaller object repeatedly highlighted? It appears as if the viewer of the scan is highlighting the small object in red because it looks unnatural even to imaging devices to me. And yes the boxes are strange because it's not like it's any kind of zoom in.

EDIT: Happy now, Bruce?


Gotcha. Thanks for the explanations. Smile I tried to match the 719hz on the EM scale and it showed up as LF and I took it to be low frequency sound. Not a scientist here so I added the "I believe" to qualify the statement.

I still think it is 3 different types of visualizations as the pictures of the 2 round objects appear identical with the exception of the color changes & the gridlines. The upper section of each of the 3 pictures does appear to change. Maybe it's supposed to be a timelapsed thermal image, but I didn't get that from looking at it.

You mention that the objects are planets (or planet). Is that general assumption?

I assumed the same, that the larger object might be a star (aura kind of looks like a corona). I also thought that the 3 images might be similar to various types of telescopes we use. I know we use infrared, x-ray, radio, and light.

I looked at the telescope angle because the SOTA website links to Seti.

Someone also mentioned a pulsar with a frequency of 719hz (there were some inconsistencies with that pulsar's frequency as some reports said 716hz). I'm not big on astronomy either, so could the picture be a pulsar?

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Very Happy It's ok man.

Pulsars are neutron stars (ultra-ultra-unbelievably dense stars) that somehow, I daresay magically, emits radio or sometimes gamma or xray radiation.

Most neutron stars are so heavy that even light doesn't have the appropriate escape velocity, thus they are invisible and do not radiate. A pulsar somehow does, and it apparantly emits light of wavelengths anywhere from radio (low frequency/low energy form) to gamma ray (super high freq./energy).

No pulsars have been discovered (or identified as pulsars) that emit energy in the more central spectra (closer to visible light), but I personally wouldn't suggest that it means there aren't any.

So, since it is visible in (IMO) Thermal gear (infra-red EM radiation), I would suggest it isn't a pulsar. That assumes that the upper images is the red object toward the upper right corner.
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Re: infestion.jpg

jonesy wrote:
Although it's pretty obvious here's where they are actually from. This was taken from ".Zip" on ABO but I added a couple small things. [/img]

The shapes seem to be the same but not arranged in the same manner. There are other similarites, I just the big ones.


Just for fun, would the tags in the red boxes create some sort of composite image? say, like a gun of sorts? A simpler look at this stuff may yield data, taking newbies to ARGs into consideration when the PMs do this stuff.

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In regards to pulsars... (emphasis added)

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The scientists discovered the pulsar, named PSR J1748-2446ad, in a globular cluster of stars called Terzan 5, located some 28,000 light-years from Earth in the constellation Sagittarius. The newly-discovered pulsar is spinning 716 times per second, or at 716 Hertz (Hz), readily beating the previous record of 642 Hz from a pulsar discovered in 1982. For reference, the fastest speeds of common kitchen blenders are 250-500 Hz.


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343 GUILTY SPARK:

(pauses) More or less. Technically, this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years. But, once the others follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the flood. (pause) But you already knew that. I mean, how couldn't you?




And about the second body in the picture...

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The spinning pulsar has a companion star that orbits it once every 26 hours. The companion passes in front of the pulsar, eclipsing the pulsar about 40 percent of the time. The long eclipse period, probably due to bloating of the companion, makes it difficult for the astronomers to learn details of the orbital configuration that would allow them to precisely measure the masses of the pulsar and its companion.


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Kind of like this?

http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2006/mspulsar/Panel_1.jpg

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Yep. Nice picture find!

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Dunia
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Does this look familiar?

http://gallery.spitzer.caltech.edu/Imagegallery/image.php?image_name=ssc2005-09b



I've been searching google images for days to try to figure out where the pic came from.

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Wow man! Nice find!
So the image on the left is the image to the naked eye?

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Hey guys. Been lurking around for a bit. Searched around for a few minutes for any info on that pic. Got a whole lot of information about nothing important. Did end up finding this wikipedia article about the actual extrasolar planet that that picture depicts. I'd probably bet that theres nothing important here, but you never know. Just thought you guys might want to see any info on things regarding that picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrES-1

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Awhite2490
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Ok...so we now know that left is visible light, and right is infrared.
If I had to hazard a guess, I would say the middle is actually an overlay of both.
Which raises the question of it's importance...from the article, it appears the purpose of the image (which is an artist's rendering) is to show how planets reflect infrared light, as opposed to the visible yellow light from a star.

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