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[SPEC] TRAILER/PICS ANALYSIS
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Blue K
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 		IN THEATERS 1-18-08...Hiding in plain sight?
Screencap of what you see when watching the official trailer (from the Apple site). Some of the letters and numbers have been highlighted, others have been dimmed. The characters on the bottom are the static trailer title and the difference is easy to see. The characters on top are a single stopped frame. The differences don't seem as pronounced until you see it playing. It becomes pretty obvious then. Caught it when the "you owe me eleven dollars " guy came on...the 1-1 kind of leapt out. Though I highlighted them, I'm not too sure about the brightness levels on the "I" in the word IN or the "1-1" in the date. The "08" and "ATERS" seem pretty clear. Turn the 08 over and you get 80ATERS...BOATERS?

Thoughts?


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Konran wrote:
Don't know if this has been brought up yet or not, but over at IMDB someone said it looked as though the giant alive roaring thing (GARTH, haha, oh god... ><) was exploding up from the ground. I'm not sure it's the monster itself, but it got me to thinking. That gigantic explosion does seem to be coming from a downward direction, because if it were a normal explosion we'd see lots of debris flying laterally as well. The only things we see that get launched (at least the only things I saw, it all happens kind of fast) are headed upward, not outward, suggesting to me that either most of the force of the explosion was directed upwards, or that they are projectiles being deliberately launched somehow by whoever.


Also, has anyone more familiar with that area pinpointed where the explosion originates?


It seems to me that the projectiles are heading up and out in a "splash" pattern. You can see one on the left and right of the fireball moving laterally on a low trajectory and several arcing up and away on their own trajectories. It almost looks like what would happen if you dropped something in a pool of water at a certain angle.

But that leads to another question I've not seen asked yet. There were three "roars" but only one of them was accompanied by a tremor - the first one. We know it shook the building and caused a brief power interruption.

By any rights, the second roar - the one that came with the fireball - should have been accompanied by some sort of tremor also. You don't just blow up (or whatever) a few city blocks and not have a building within eyesight do a little rocking and rolling.

The third should have had some sort of tremor also, especially since the louder roar means that whatever made it has been coming closer. If the theories about a big walking (oozing, shlumphing) beast have any weight, there are goign to be buildings coming down, and heavy footfalls. That's goign to rock a body, too. Again, no evidence of any tremors.
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 		Re: IN THEATERS 1-18-08...Hiding in plain sight?
Blue K wrote:
Thoughts?


Eeeeeenteresting. This is more like something ARGy!

Okay...lets work on a premise that we're spelling a word or words (not that we definitely are, but it's an area of exploration). The the "08" becomes "OB" and the "1-1" can work as an "H".

That gives us (keeping the lines intact)

IATERS
HOB

I don't know that the "H" suggestion is a great one, since in the lower set of photos, the dash between the 1s is dimmed. So we could also have:

IATERS
IIOB

For those looking at the other end of things, the dimmed characters end up as:

NTHE
- B-

Substituting in letters, of course.
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JimmieBJr wrote:
If the theories about a big walking (oozing, shlumphing) beast have any weight, there are goign to be buildings coming down, and heavy footfalls. That's goign to rock a body, too. Again, no evidence of any tremors.


You're right, I noticed that too. At no point in the trailer do we hear any sounds of walking/footfalls/slithering/what-have-you. Like in Jurassic Park, they made a huge deal out of the noise and shaking of the T-Rex's footsteps. Practically any monster movie ever made follows the same convention. We don't get any of that here.

You also notice the roars always happen right before something else does? We have Roar #1 connected to the shaking/power outage, Roar #2 right before the explosion, and Roar #3 is followed by the flying SOL head. I don't even know if I'd call them roars at this point though... they sound almost like moans to me.

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 		At 00:39, in the middle of the blackout, there's some interesting art on the walls to the left of the We'll Miss You Rob sign. Similar style to the demon between the two chicks.



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 		zomg new picture! Looks like very smoky, maybe flames off to the left.

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there seems to be to men in the back, seems almost like soldiers. the one behind the woman seems to be holding something, perhaps a gun, and is taking aim at something could be the women or could be something further back hidden in the smoke.

It's only 12 minutes taken after the close up of the 2 women in fear but it's covered in smoke and extremely lite up, like if were during the day.

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 		Help me out here, folks. I need more brains than mine on this bunch of thoughts.

Thought 1: The photo site is meant to do more than simply display photos. You can do that without giving us the ability to move and rotate them.

Thought 2: The photos on the site were posted out of chronological order. The order is - Two Women at 12:32, Party at 12:01, and Smoke Street at 12:48. If your intent is to tell the story with the photos, using them to augment the trailer, then you've screwed the pooch by including the party pic at all. If anything, you want a pic very early in the party or, better yet, just before the trailer starts.

Thought 3: At first blush, the Party pic seems to be a relatively normal pic, but is it really? Watching the trailer, one gets the very definite sense of an upscale yuppie-ish party, with relatively pricey beer and some mixed drinks (maybe with a rented bartender). Even at the height of the party, before the first roar, there's some dancing, but not a lot of revelry. But there's this picture of someone "feeding" Rob a drink - the kind of thing you'd expect at a way more rowdy party. And it happens supposedly in the middle of the party, which means that Rob has to go from sober at about 11:15 to willing to be fed something stronger than a beer at 12:01 to reacting with reasonable faculties somewhere between 12:01 and 12:36. That seems off to me.

Thought 4: What is that fireball thing, anyhow? Notice that you don't hear an explosion before we turn toward the ball of fire. We hear a short bang or a dry splat then a crackling sound, like a very hot fire expanding. No explosion. No stomping around.

Thought 5: Speaking of "no stomping around", why does only the first roar come with any sort of tremors? A big monster moving anywhere on land should induce some sort of shaking, especially if it's "huge" enough to be seen from the roof. We don't get any more tremors through the second and third roar, which we have believed happen closer to the camera. W don't even feel the impact of large buildings getting knocked over, which is likely to happen if a huge monster stomps through Manhattan.
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JimmieBJr wrote:
Help me out here, folks. I need more brains than mine on this bunch of thoughts.

Thought 4: What is that fireball thing, anyhow? Notice that you don't hear an explosion before we turn toward the ball of fire. We hear a short bang or a dry splat then a crackling sound, like a very hot fire expanding. No explosion. No stomping around.

Thought 5: Speaking of "no stomping around", why does only the first roar come with any sort of tremors? A big monster moving anywhere on land should induce some sort of shaking, especially if it's "huge" enough to be seen from the roof. We don't get any more tremors through the second and third roar, which we have believed happen closer to the camera. W don't even feel the impact of large buildings getting knocked over, which is likely to happen if a huge monster stomps through Manhattan.


You know, I wonder if we're looking at the wrong giant-monster for examples of what might physically happen.

Maybe instead of Godzilla, we should be considering Mothra...

The creature is called a parasite. If it's emerging from underground, it could be in a larval form, like a worm or a caterpillar. Another thread off this site suggested that the sounds of the shrieking were actually sewer pipes bursting underground- perhaps that would explain why the shaking only happened the first time, and as the creature was moving, the tremors wouldn't be felt in the building again?

And... totally bad timing.. a HUGE thunderstorm just started outside as I was typing this, with a BANG to match... scared the CRAP out of me!!

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 		Re: IN THEATERS 1-18-08...Hiding in plain sight?
JimmieBJr wrote:
Eeeeeenteresting. This is more like something ARGy!

My first thought as well. Perfect opportunity to place a puzzle. Personally, the lack of puzzles in this thing has me leaning away from ARG...for now.
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 		Re: IN THEATERS 1-18-08...Hiding in plain sight?
Blue K wrote:
JimmieBJr wrote:
Eeeeeenteresting. This is more like something ARGy!

My first thought as well. Perfect opportunity to place a puzzle. Personally, the lack of puzzles in this thing has me leaning away from ARG...for now.


Heh.

Using these letters: IATERSHOB

You can get...I HATES ROB

Or...ROB IS HATE

Very Happy

EDIT: Okay, slightly more seriously, you also get ROB ATE HIS
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JimmieBJr wrote:
Help me out here, folks. I need more brains than mine on this bunch of thoughts.

Thought 1: The photo site is meant to do more than simply display photos. You can do that without giving us the ability to move and rotate them.


Maybe if we get enough pictures, we'll have to make our own WE'LL MISS YOU ROB sign.

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Thought 2: The photos on the site were posted out of chronological order. The order is - Two Women at 12:32, Party at 12:01, and Smoke Street at 12:48. If your intent is to tell the story with the photos, using them to augment the trailer, then you've screwed the pooch by including the party pic at all. If anything, you want a pic very early in the party or, better yet, just before the trailer starts.


12:01am...literally the start of a brand new day. The women at 12:36am and Smoke Street at 12:48am: both divisible by 6 and 12...maybe we'll get 5 photos per hour?

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Thought 4: What is that fireball thing, anyhow? Notice that you don't hear an explosion before we turn toward the ball of fire. We hear a short bang or a dry splat then a crackling sound, like a very hot fire expanding. No explosion. No stomping around.


I agree. The sound strikes me as more mechanical than vocal, caused by friction or cracking. The fireball strikes me as an incendiary reaction as opposed to an explosive reaction i.e. Napalm. Then there's the "projectiles" that eminate from the fireball. Reminds me of a seed pod that bursts open during a forest fire, launching it's seeds in all directions.
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 		my own questions
Three things really bug me....
1) What the HELL is that thing between the girls' heads. I swear, the more I stare at it, the more scared I get.
2)I think EVERYBODY, so far, has agreed that this takes place in New York, judging by the names of the streets and the buildings they see in the trailer. Well..I checked out Google Maps, and pulled up the Statue of Liberty. It is 2 MILES AWAY from any part of NYC AT ITS CLOSEST....which begs the question....Did what ever did this pick up the head and carry it with them, or did they force the head to fly 2+ miles away? (And because the SOL is in water, I initially thought Godzilla too).
3) At the end of the trailer the guy screams "Its alive! Its huge!". Why does he say "its alive" first? It just doesn't make sense unless whatever 'it' is, usually isn't alive. I mean, if you saw Godzilla, King Kong, or any other giant being...the first thing you'd say would not be "its alive". Now, if my car 'transformed' into a robot.....then maybe....

Anyone else?

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 		Re: IN THEATERS 1-18-08...Hiding in plain sight?
Blue K wrote:
Screencap of what you see when watching the official trailer (from the Apple site). Some of the letters and numbers have been highlighted, others have been dimmed. The characters on the bottom are the static trailer title and the difference is easy to see. The characters on top are a single stopped frame. The differences don't seem as pronounced until you see it playing. It becomes pretty obvious then. Caught it when the "you owe me eleven dollars " guy came on...the 1-1 kind of leapt out. Though I highlighted them, I'm not too sure about the brightness levels on the "I" in the word IN or the "1-1" in the date. The "08" and "ATERS" seem pretty clear. Turn the 08 over and you get 80ATERS...BOATERS?

Thoughts?



On the 'dim' letters, N THE 8:

'entheate' is a fairly obscure but legitimate English word that means 'inspired by or possessed by a god'.

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Now, if my car 'transformed' into a robot.....then maybe....


Thank you! ;-p

And I would like to take this opportunity to remind some of the naysayers that "it's alive" is perfectly reasonable to say....

I do believe in the movie that followed the trailer, there's a scared shitless, quite confused young lad by the name of Witwicky who is telling his cellphone, regarding his newly purchased - usually inanimate - automobile....

MY CAR! IT'S ALIVE!

When his newly purchased automobile decided to drive out the driveway on its own and proceed to undo itself and stand upright and partake in a rock em sock em autobot match with a - usually inanimate - police car.

Thank you very much. Razz

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