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[SPEC] TRAILER/PICS ANALYSIS
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 		Hi folks,

Something that struck me as interesting: at the end of the trailer, some of the letters of the credits appear darker than others--specifically "BURK" and the lower halves of the letters "RYL CL" that make up Sherryl Clark's name.

I'm seeing this on the large version of the trailer at Apple's site. It may just be an artifact of the video compression. I've checked it against the medium and small versions of the trailers and I can see the same thing.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:14 am
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tinag222
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 		Timing
The elements of times shown:
In order of appearance:

Trailer:

10:10
10:10
12:32

1-18 Site

12:36
12:01
12:48


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In chronological order:

10:10
12:01
12:32
12:36
12:48

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Time differences (by appearance)

10:10
10:10 - 0 -
12:32 - 2h 22m (142m)
12:36 - 4m
12:01 - -35m
12:48 - 47m


Time differences (by order)

10:10
10:10 - 0 -
12:01 - 2h 1m (121m)
12:32 - 31m
12:36 - 4m
12:48 -12m

Consideration: I read somewhere earlier about the time discrepancy on the 10:10 but those segments were edited in. It's plausible that the part camguy is focused on brunette chick took place immediately before Rob enters. Otherwise, prop blooper. I doubt it was deliberately placed - it's too hard to make out in the trailer without the frame by frame getting just the right position in the flash. Provided it's not a prop blooper, it appears twice in the trailer so I noted it two times to be safe.

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By appearance:

12:36A - two females (2)
12:01A - two females, three males (5) or (2,3)
12:41A - two females, two males (4) or (2,2)

By order:

12:01A - two females, three males (5) or (2,3)
12:36A - two females (2)
12:41A - two females, two males (4) or (2,2)


Photo 1: On site July 3
Photo 2: On site July 6 (3d)
Photo 3: On site July 12 (6d)


I went thru the trailer and saw none of these people in Pic 3, based on their clothing, and mainly the females since it's too vague to make out what the other 2 are wearing. There was a bare hint of someone behind the dancing boobs chick that is wearing a blue shirt and with a dark strap over the right shoulder - could be female #1 but it's hard to tell.

They aren't visibly or partially shown in the trailer so I'd gather they are not part of Rob's group, and are people coming toward camera holder from outside somewhere shortly after the event, or right in the middle of it I guess.


One male, both females facing camera; male #2 facing away; male #1 running toward camera, male #2 still, females unsure but female #2's extreme upper leg looks one in front, so could be in step.

Female #1 - right hand over mouth
Female #1 - both hands over mouth

camera holder is upright, facing 1 male, 2 females


Pic 3 tick/rotates ultra slowly
Pic 2 tick/rotates slower than previous
Pic 1 static

EDIT: Pic 2 pulsing/flickering - and while it is visibly noticeable and I've yapped it's not a glitch, it did just occur to me that it may well be a glitch since it was ticking....could be along the same lines as the record skipping...the ticking rotation is snagged up and it's trying to tick/rotate but can't. Watching it do this a little while (5mins) the pulsing hasn't also turned the photo...it's in the same position it was in when the flickering started. If that is the case, it still suggests the rotation is not a glitch but intended and it's getting stuck.

But since I'm not a flash expert, whatever. It'll come out in the wash. The other reason I have trouble with the rotation being a glitch is that the same program is used for slusho and those graphics don't snag up or glitch in their movements. We can't move the graphics on slusho but can on 1-18. That's a little screwy to me in a suspect way.

I'm just sayin.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:21 am
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tinag222 wrote:

I wasn't sure if it was just CG blooper, or meant to be singed area or shadow but it was really curious that the top corner of the building didn't disappear into smithereens, it's still in tact and is now covered by spikey black stuff. Stuff being open to speculation.

I'll get a screencap and add it in a sec to make it easier...


If you look at the 3rd picture a bit more you can see that the building is deformed i.e. where the impact was part of the outside of the building is now missing. But I think you might be right in it being a CGI blooper, or certainly going cheap on the CGI budget as they have quite clearly used straight lines to make parts of the building now being destroyed kinda like a comic book type explosion from Wylie Coyote and Road Runner) And you can see what looks like an inside wall.

Also the pictures are happily following the before seen pattern making http://www.1-18-08.com/images/pic_3.swf a valid link to a much larger picture.

My picture analysis is that the two girls at the right are walking away and covering their mouths and nose to presumably stop the dust getting to them.

The guy in the far left is running towards the camera from which the picture was shot, and I think this as he is not taking the time to cover his nose and mouth and has his hands at his middle.

The guy in the middle seems to be walking from left to right and is covering his face as well.


Presumably then these people are all civilians who have got caught up in all this.

It is too early still for it to be daylight, so the light is either from a very very bright light source or from another explosion


Sorry if any of this has been repeated I kinda only just realised that there are now 3 pictures, think I've been snoozing or something Very Happy LOL

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:26 am
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 		Street
Here is the trailer location:

(click on uber-wide link to google maps)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:29 am
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officespacejk
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Konran wrote:
JimmieBJr wrote:
If the theories about a big walking (oozing, shlumphing) beast have any weight, there are goign to be buildings coming down, and heavy footfalls. That's goign to rock a body, too. Again, no evidence of any tremors.


You're right, I noticed that too. At no point in the trailer do we hear any sounds of walking/footfalls/slithering/what-have-you. Like in Jurassic Park, they made a huge deal out of the noise and shaking of the T-Rex's footsteps. Practically any monster movie ever made follows the same convention. We don't get any of that here.

You also notice the roars always happen right before something else does? We have Roar #1 connected to the shaking/power outage, Roar #2 right before the explosion, and Roar #3 is followed by the flying SOL head. I don't even know if I'd call them roars at this point though... they sound almost like moans to me.


i'm taking this as, the roar had nothing to do w/ the tremor. the tremor was what ever it is, attacking the SOL, and tearing the head off. leaping out of the water and landing on the island maybe. anything large enough to pick & toss the SOL head like that, would be sizable enough to make quite a shake if it jumped up and down. the next roar is a happy one that it ripped the head off, and the 3rd is emerging from the water after carrying the head back to the main land.

thoughts?

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officespacejk wrote:
the next roar is a happy one that it ripped the head off, and the 3rd is emerging from the water after carrying the head back to the main land.

thoughts?


See that what Im confused about. Why would it carry a head 3 miles just to throw it? Or did the head ravel 3 miles in the air? Doesnt make sense to me.

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HansGruber wrote:
officespacejk wrote:
the next roar is a happy one that it ripped the head off, and the 3rd is emerging from the water after carrying the head back to the main land.

thoughts?


See that what Im confused about. Why would it carry a head 3 miles just to throw it? Or did the head ravel 3 miles in the air? Doesnt make sense to me.


it could have chucked it from the island, but as pointed out by somebody, thats a 3 mile chuck, which given that it only took maybe 4 seconds to hit the 1st building, thats moving several hunder MPH. at that speed, the head should have exploded...iron framework, and copper sheeting from the french over a hundred years ago? just from a physics stand point, i'm thinking it was carried for some reason.

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 		new thought
can anybody screencap & zoom in on the fireballs coming from the original explosion? 1 of them, middle left of the screen, looks kinda cylindrical. maybe, say, like the SOL's torch? could the explosion have started there, when the head was ripped off?

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 		Something I thought might be useful to kill of speculation in those areas.

The code for the displaying of picture incorporates a random number generator for the positioning of the pictures so each time the page is loaded they should always be in slightly different locations

Code:

var t = attachMovie("photo", "photo" + i, i, {_x: Stage.width / 2 - 200 + Math.random() * 400, _y: Stage.height / 2 - 200 + Math.random() * 400, _rotation: -45 + Math.random() * 90});


The code is currently set to display 3 pictures only so the whole main swf file needs to be uploaded each time with modified code along with the new picture(s)

I can also find NO evidence of intentional tick and/or rotation and/or pulsing effects in the flash file itself, which leads me to believe that this is a bug in the program coding.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:59 am
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 		Also the fireballs that shoot up high have a secondary explosion. (They Split at the end) which is interesting.

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HansGruber wrote:
Also the fireballs that shoot up high have a secondary explosion. (They Split at the end) which is interesting.


that happens alot when items that aren't meant to be used as missles, and shot at that speed. think of the shuttle a year ago. after the hull was breached, at the spead it was moving, all integraty of the ship was compramised and it split into pieces.

if all the parts of the projectile aren't made to stay together through that type of explosion, and at those speeds, they will crumble while hurdling through the air.

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 		i hesitated to post this because i'm not certain yet, but i got a screencap at the highest res i could get of the small art on the wall behind mr slusho during the newscast.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4366/picture1copybt5.jpg

it reminds me very much of an artist named Camille Rose Garcia, but i havnt been able to find the exact piece. Here is the series that i thought it would be from -

http://www.excellentvirtu.com/portfolio-garcia.jpg

it could also be from a different artist all together.

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 		Was wondering, did those pictures come from a Digital Camera or a normal camera (35mm). If it did come from a normal camera, and if the cameraman only used 1 roll of film, do think we'll be getting 1 picture per week until a few weeks before the movie comes out? 24 Exposure roll of film would last us till December 7th, if we get a picture a week, and if they use the roll of film theme. Thats plenty of time left over for us to guess what the movie is about, before T.V. trailers, then the movie itself.

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triquestra wrote:
i hesitated to post this because i'm not certain yet, but i got a screencap at the highest res i could get of the small art on the wall behind mr slusho during the newscast.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4366/picture1copybt5.jpg

it reminds me very much of an artist named Camille Rose Garcia, but i havnt been able to find the exact piece. Here is the series that i thought it would be from -

http://www.excellentvirtu.com/portfolio-garcia.jpg

it could also be from a different artist all together.


looks like Betty Boop to me

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:33 am
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 		Guys i found something different in the Fridge picture
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/28/whatisthis1ct8.jpg

here it is zoomed in
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4421/whatisthisue0.jpg

Could this be some sort of creature?


Edit: Please link or attach large image files instead of embedding inline. -SpaceBass

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