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[SPEC] TRAILER/PICS ANALYSIS
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W-Three
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 		The consistency of the fireballs seemed perfectly fine to me.

And as for the idea of the smoke being a literal smokescreen, it makes sense. Its been dont before (i.e footage in the advert altered so not to reveal anything).

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:37 pm
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 		Re: The smoke might be SPECIFICALLY for the trailer only
brettoniasam wrote:
We had the "monster in the smoke" argument for several heated days on IMDB back in July immediately after the trailer's release...

here's my take.

1)If it was intended to be smoke from a fire...where's the fire? That smoke cloud is, what, 40 stories high? The whole damn sky would be lit up over Manhattan from a smoke cloud that big. Not even 9/11 belched out that much smoke -- only the dust/debris cloud after the Towers fell.

2) Here's a (to my mind) more likely explanation: the filmmakers DIGITALLY ADDED the smoke SPECIFICALLY for the trailer -- to hide the monster. Period. In other words, the original shot actually *contains* the monster (maybe; or maybe just a "placeholder" animation), and they used a (quite literal) smokescreen to obscure it from the audience.

If so, I expect we'll see that same shot again -- minus the smokescreen. And see the monster in its full glory.

The way CGI works is largely like creating an image in Photoshop with layers, so although your idea is roughly right, they don't need to 'cover' the monster in smoke, just replace his render layer with the layer of smoke.

I personally think the monster isn't in that shot, as a dramatic mechanism it creates more confusion for the characters to not see it as yet. It also creates intrigue in the audience. I think we'll see entirely new footage in the next trailer, and I don't think that footage will be changed if and when we see it again.
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 		Pic analysis
Ok...noody get mad at me. I am NOT trying to prove anyhting or imply that something may be there when it may or may not be. But I was looking at one of the pics on the Cloverfield website and it struck me that the two girls are standing in about the same position as two girls on the Slusho website.

I posted a brief movie on youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCad4ZisPE

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 		a good similarity, but what does it prove? Confused

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 		Prove?
In response to your question..."What does it prove?" Didn't you read what I wrote? I am not trying to "prove" anything. I simply noticed that the two girls in the picture from the cloverfield website seemed to be standing in the same position as the two figures at the head of the runway on the Slusho site. You are free to draw your own conclusions as to whether the two elements have any merit when caompared to one another.

I am, however, happy to point out some interesting things that I noticed.

1). We know that JJ Abrams and company are using viral marketing strategies to promote the film. (and it is a lot of fun!)

2). We know that 01-18-08.com and Slusho.jp are both linked to the movie.

3). Not all clues will be obvious...we have to look closely at every element.

4). When looking at the Slusho webite, specifically the "store" page, I noticed that the figures in the background were pointing up. To me they looked like a crowd scene from a Godzilla movie. You know, where they are all standing there, looking scared, screaming "Godzirra!!"

5). I was looking at the pictures on 01-18-08.com and the one with the two girls holding their hands over their noses and mouths looked a little odd to me. It looked staged somehow. Then I looked at the figure right over the shoulder of the girl closest to the center of the picture. He is hazy but it looks like he is holding something up. Not like he was covering his mouth...his elbows would be closer to his body if he was just covering his mouth. Instead, his elbows are further out from his body, like he's supporting something. What would he be holding up to his face? Either a gun or a camera...at least those were the first to things that came to mind.
When I thought of the guy holding a camera, my mind jumped to the store page on Slusho.jp because the figures around the runway are taking pictures.

So that's what I was thinking when I decided to play with the two elements and post my movie on youtube. Again, you are free to draw your own conclusions...I am just throwing stuff out there for us all to think about. OK?

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 		The Green Picture at 1-18-08.com
I noticed that the two ships on the left seem to be firing missiles at the two F-22 type jets above them.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t185/incompleteness/Cloverfield_green.jpg

All the other arms fire in the picture is directed at the central fireball, only those 4 missiles are not.

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 		Re: The Green Picture at 1-18-08.com
Principia wrote:
I noticed that the two ships on the left seem to be firing missiles at the two F-22 type jets above them.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t185/incompleteness/Cloverfield_green.jpg

All the other arms fire in the picture is directed at the central fireball, only those 4 missiles are not.


This has been discussed.

The missiles from the ship are a certain type of missile that launch up and then arch back down. They are not ground to air missiles.
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 		Re: The Green Picture at 1-18-08.com
OliMango wrote:
This has been discussed.

Of course it has. Darned if I could find that using search though.

As for whether or not they are anti-aircraft missiles, I don't see how a person can say for sure.

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 		Re: The Green Picture at 1-18-08.com
Principia wrote:
OliMango wrote:
This has been discussed.

Of course it has. Darned if I could find that using search though.

As for whether or not they are anti-aircraft missiles, I don't see how a person can say for sure.


There was some guy on here that knew all different types of missiles and what not. He said they weren't.
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 		Re: The Green Picture at 1-18-08.com
OliMango wrote:
Principia wrote:
OliMango wrote:
This has been discussed.

Of course it has. Darned if I could find that using search though.

As for whether or not they are anti-aircraft missiles, I don't see how a person can say for sure.


There was some guy on here that knew all different types of missiles and what not. He said they weren't.

There's no way to tell, I don't think. What I'm thinking is both types launch straight up, or they can.

Here's an SM-2 anti-air missile lauching straight up:

http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/images/sm2.jpg

And here's a Tomahawk cruise missile also launching straight up:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/USN_Tactical_Tomahawk_launch.jpg/594px-USN_Tactical_Tomahawk_launch.jpg

Both from ships.

Also, you have to ask yourself if the person that assembled the picture had any idea about this stuff. If they did then the four things coming off the jets are flares not missiles. In which case the jets think they are being targeted.

If the person who made the picture doesn't know anything about missiles, then it doesn't matter what an expert says. Ha ha.

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