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[SPEC] TRAILER/PICS ANALYSIS
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Konran
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waitress#2 wrote:
Riane, you sould probably spoiler font that if it shows the monster.

Has anyone listened to the monster sound backwards to see if you can hear if there is something hidden? I don't have the equipment or I would do it. Sad


x-posted from the giant thread:

"I saw someone else saying they heard "R'lyeh", as in Cthulhu's place. I dunno, I think it's just a moan-y sound. It sounds identical to the rest of the "roar", just higher-pitched. If you notice, there are three distinct tones in the first "roar": high-low-medium. The others all start out high and slide to low. Whatever it is, though, it's creepy as hell.

On a re-listen I can hear four distinct tones in the first roar now... it almost sounds like three tones - pause - fourth tone."


To sum up, I don't really think there's anything "hidden" in the monster's noises. Really if you tried hard enough I bet you could hear anything you wanted. That post was in reply to someone thinking maybe they heard "Noriko". If someone wants to prove me wrong, I'll gladly admit it, but I think for now I'm going to look elsewhere for clues.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:50 pm
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TheUnnatural
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 		Pic 1 on www.1-18-08.com What are the girls looking at?
They're NOT looking at the parasite
The time line is the key. It's four minutes after the news report. By that time, the party goers are not at the street yet, they're at the rooftop.

The girls are looking at the fireballs that shot out of the explosion.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:14 pm
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ExitToMysterySt.
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 		It looks like the going away party starts around around 10:15 pm. Provided that when building the set the time was set on the clock intentionally. Could just be a random prop though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:33 pm
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Riane
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waitress#2 wrote:
Riane, you sould probably spoiler font that if it shows the monster.

Has anyone listened to the monster sound backwards to see if you can hear if there is something hidden? I don't have the equipment or I would do it. Sad


You're kidding, right? He isn't legally able to post anything more then simple set props (eg: the buildings, some weapons, and a chic with boobs getting plastered for a mold.)

So it's safe to say that there is no need for a "spoiler" warning at all. They're not spoilers at all, but hey, whatever. I'm not going to be a baby over pictures, unlike.. well, some people. *cough*
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:40 pm
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 		party pic numbers
I was reading through this post and came across someone who said that since there is the rotating issue, it may mean that the pictures need to be looked at from different angles.... welll... if you look at the party pic upside down, you get a series of numbers (the visible ones at least)

If you just take the visible ones, you get one of these series:

55113
Possibly 551131

just a help/hope

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Am I the only who has noticed you can no longer use the Zoom In and Show All functions of the Flash Player? It happened after they posted the 3rd pic for me...


No - they slipped in a day or so before they added p3 and sealed that up all mouselike and snuck out. ;-p


Interesting that they have left the Zoom features on over at Slusho though...

Slusho! Zoom! ??
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Nighthawk
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 		I've left the site up for a considerable amount of time and, yes, after a while the images (specifically the last one) begin to move on their own.

I haven't read everything listed here, but here's a technical report:

Decompiling all the SWF files, I've discovered that...

1) The master file, which loads all the images, is hard-coded as to the amount of pictures it loads. In other words, every time they have to add a picture they have to replace the main Flash file.

Code:

var i = 1;
while (i <= 3)
{
    var t = attachMovie("photo", "photo" + i, i, {_x: Stage.width / 2 - 200 + Math.random() * 400, _y: Stage.height / 2 - 200 + Math.random() * 400, _rotation: -45 + Math.random() * 90});
    t.init("pic_" + i + ".swf");
    ++i;
} // end while


So, to add new images, they have to change the "3" to a "4" and re-upload.

That leads me to believe that, if there are other pictures to be shown, they're not PHYSICALLY on the server yet.

2) There is absolutely no script in the three secondary image files.

3) Whatever's causing the files to rotate I'm not sure of. I admit I'm using the Sothink SWF decompiler that's unregistered, so it's only disassembling two of the three script files in the project. There's a third script, presumably the library, that I can't see... yet...

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Phoenixka
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 		I'm cross posting this from the plot theory thread.

I just wanted to put my two cents in about the SOL head.

Now plenty of people are doing real world investigations of where the SOL head would have to travel to be in that part of NY during the trailer. I'm gonna take the "it's a movie" stance on that and say the SOL head being there is just symbolic. The statue of liberty is something we can all recognize and is a stead fast symbol in our culture. The fact that it was ripped down and thrown at the camera is just for the shock factor of seeing something we all know and love get destroyed. It solidifies how much of a threat this monster is.

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Renegade
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 		I'm going to take the stance of maybe there's 2 monsters? I hear different roars all 3 times. Two are similar, one is not. Also this could explain why there's tremors and power flickering in the first roar and not again. Maybe it "landed" or maybe even come up from underground. Could be two monsters fighting away in NYC. Maybe even a swarm of monsters all over the world, who knows.

The SoL head got torn off from behind looks like, and then thrown in the middle of NYC. It could also be thrown at something, like another monster, but why it would be holding the SoL's head for as long as it took to go from the water to the downtown area, and then be thrown away. If it was just an animal, I doubt it would really do such a thing, but it's a monster movie, and monsters do strange things.

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ariston72
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 		Geographic inconsistencies
Has anyone else noticed that the rooftop location is much further away than the street location? When they're outside on the street, the location is consistent with the 401 Broadway address. The Woolworth Building is clearly visible just down the road.

However, in the rooftop scene, they seem to be much further away. The explosion seems to be right near the WTC site. (I've heard someone say the explosion was on Ellis Island, which would just mean the explosion is larger and more distant) Not only is the Woolworth building much further away, but we're now seeing it from an angle; it's several blocks over. Also, at :57, we can see the Slusho guy talking to a guy and two girls, and the Empire State Building is briefly visible on the right side of the screen. At 1:03, just before the camera zooms in on the explosion, we can see a suspension bridge on the far left. This would have to be either the Brooklyn Bridge, the Manhattan Bridge, or possibly the Williamsburg Bridge.

The Empire State Building is located 2.2 miles north-northeast of the 401 Broadway address, in the opposite direction, but it appears to be roughly the same distance away as the Woolworth Building. This implies that the rooftop is somewhere a mile or so to the northeast of the Broadway address. Such a location would also provide a view of the bridge consistent with what we see.

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ariston72
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 		two women or just one?
People have been speculating that the two women in the picture might be the same woman. While at first I believed this, I've since changed my mind. For one thing, the human brain is hardwired to recognize faces, so if we put those two images together, our brain will try to make sense of it as a single face.

Although the apparent difference in skin color could simply be a lighting effect, there are other inconsistencies, such as the eyeshadow, and the eyebrows don't seem to match. Also, in this image, I've indicated the directions the eyes seem to be looking. While certainly not conclusive, it's interesting to not that if this is one person (assuming it's one photo split, not two photos from separate times), she's looking at something probably only a few feet away, whereas if the original photo shows two women next to each other, they would have to be looking at two different things.

Perhaps as Renegade suggested, there are multiple monsters?
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Iamthequestion
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triquestra wrote:
i hesitated to post this because i'm not certain yet, but i got a screencap at the highest res i could get of the small art on the wall behind mr slusho during the newscast.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4366/picture1copybt5.jpg

it reminds me very much of an artist named Camille Rose Garcia, but i havnt been able to find the exact piece. Here is the series that i thought it would be from -

http://www.excellentvirtu.com/portfolio-garcia.jpg

it could also be from a different artist all together.



maybe thats what they mean by "Slusho! Zoom!" ?

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Teebor wrote:
Something I thought might be useful to kill of speculation in those areas.

The code for the displaying of picture incorporates a random number generator for the positioning of the pictures so each time the page is loaded they should always be in slightly different locations

Code:

var t = attachMovie("photo", "photo" + i, i, {_x: Stage.width / 2 - 200 + Math.random() * 400, _y: Stage.height / 2 - 200 + Math.random() * 400, _rotation: -45 + Math.random() * 90});


The code is currently set to display 3 pictures only so the whole main swf file needs to be uploaded each time with modified code along with the new picture(s)

I can also find NO evidence of intentional tick and/or rotation and/or pulsing effects in the flash file itself, which leads me to believe that this is a bug in the program coding.



since you seem to understand the code,
can you change the code to include more pictures? soem sort of script injection, if so, try to guess at the file names for the next images based on teh current ones then run the code locally, but have it pull the images from thier server.

post a screen cap if you get anything

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Iamthequestion wrote:


since you seem to understand the code,
can you change the code to include more pictures? soem sort of script injection, if so, try to guess at the file names for the next images based on teh current ones then run the code locally, but have it pull the images from thier server.

post a screen cap if you get anything


There's only three pics on the site right now.
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 		Just thinking outloud here...
tinag222 wrote:
Re pic sequence....

I look at it like a timeline to augment the trailer, and all of them seem reasonable....

party pic gives the time of 12:01A and isn't in the trailer, so is obviously before the trailer events.


IMO that would not be correct. Rob doesn't even arrive at the party until the trailer starts. So I tend to believe that the party pic is showing us what happened AFTER Rob arrived, not before.

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2 chicks is the one that on its face looks out of place - without inferring they're upset about the thing up the road. The stamp on this one tho is curious - it's 4 minutes after the newsreport. Since there's not any shot in the trailer of these two girls this close to get this sort of shot, it's reasonable to infer this shot was taken after the trailer events.


Here is a pic of the two girls together on the street just moments after the news, then rooftop. Reaching, but the apt could be right next to the roof making it an easy climb and they could certainly hop up there and down to the street in about 4 minutes.
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