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officespacejk
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Re: Maybe
A few more theories

Kai Orion wrote:

First and foremost, I think we should throw out any invasion-from-alien theories. We've had enough of those recently and i don't think that's JJ's style...anyway, Transformers already took care of that for another year or two.

And, Rob is probably a main character, otherwise the trailer wouldn't involve his party and him leaving, it would simply show the ending explosion and panic.

what the trailer does show, is the use of a camcorder in the moments leading up to the goboom & mass hysteria. how inticing would it be if in the trailer, all we saw was an explosion & SOL's head bouncing around? there's a minute of material in the trailer leading up the events, to show that its just a normal day in the life...albiet, a going away party, but it'd be pretty pointless to just show some dude walking around, looking at buildings, and then the goboom.

i'm not saying that he can't be in the movie, but i am saying that given the way information is going to be fed via camcorders in the movie (found in teh rubble) it'd be more up jj's alley, and more interesting, if there were several story lines that are independent, or seemingly independent, that follow along in the story.

for the record, i'm also stating my thought that its possible that the trailer will not even be part of the movie.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:08 am

officespacejk
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Re: what if

[quote="junior496"]

Anteros wrote:

officespacejk wrote:

EDIT:

"I don't know, I'm like your main dude."

i agree, why would they spend the whole trailer telling about Rob's trip to Japan, the party, and the people at the party reacting to Rob leaving and such if it wasnt about him.

cause thats all this is. think of it as a teaser, not a trailer then. more of, this is the type of thing you will see, as opposed to, this is exactly whats going on, and these are all the people you will have to worry about.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:12 am

Drone41279
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Who said there are any Monsters

Thinking out loud guys, but is there any official position with the notion that there are any monsters at all in this 'Movie'. Okay so there is the line 'I saw it, its alive, its huge' in the trailer, but hey if this guy has drunk one too may Slushos he might be seeing 60ft cockroaches round every corner. He could be also be panic answering three seperate questions,

Question 1 - Did you see that explosion - I saw it
Question 2 - Did anyone see Jason (could be someones dog) - Its alive
Question 3 - Hows your ego - Its huge

all in rapid succesion by someone wanting to do good and answer as many peoples questions as possible...

So far I dont think there has been anything that really really confirms a monster.

Considering that the Statue of Liberty is decapitated. It could even be a movie about the subjugation of New York with the first thing being the removal of Liberty by first destroying its emblem of representation, the subsequent trafficing of people along the street being the marshalling of the population.

Does Rob have a hand in this, probably! Perhaps Slusho has an agent in it that helps with the subjugation, weve seen what too many cokes can do Wink

So I must admit to still keeping an open mind, but as with an open dustbin, its sure to accumulate a lot of unwelcome rubbish.

However given the hysteria with which so many 'Monsters' have been drawn upon so far I think Paramount would be very hard pressed not to create one even if there was never going to be one, if only to save face.

Tally ho! with the Hunt ladies and Gentlemen.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:51 am

HetMasteen
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Re: what if

[quote="officespacejk"]

junior496 wrote:

Anteros wrote:

officespacejk wrote:

EDIT:

"I don't know, I'm like your main dude."

i agree, why would they spend the whole trailer telling about Rob's trip to Japan, the party, and the people at the party reacting to Rob leaving and such if it wasnt about him.

Remember the Godzilla teasers? None of them had anything to do with the movie. One had two old fishermen that encounter Godzilla, and the second featured Godzilla storming in during the ball drop on new year's eve in Times Square. An event that did not happen in the movie at all.

I think it's 50/50 that the movie is about/partly about Rob, or that the events in the teaser aren't even in the movie. I have a feeling that teaser 2 will answer that question...

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:02 am

Drone41279
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Re: what if

[quote="HetMasteen"]

officespacejk wrote:

junior496 wrote:

Anteros wrote:

officespacejk wrote:

EDIT:

"I don't know, I'm like your main dude."

i agree, why would they spend the whole trailer telling about Rob's trip to Japan, the party, and the people at the party reacting to Rob leaving and such if it wasnt about him.

Dude I want a set of those dice your tumbling, because I may, could, almost, with some chance of inevitability, with a smidgen of luck, probably roll the same conclusion.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:08 am

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Re: what if

[quote="Drone41279"]

HetMasteen wrote:

officespacejk wrote:

junior496 wrote:

Anteros wrote:

officespacejk wrote:

EDIT:

"I don't know, I'm like your main dude."

i agree, why would they spend the whole trailer telling about Rob's trip to Japan, the party, and the people at the party reacting to Rob leaving and such if it wasnt about him.

Dude I want a set of those dice your tumbling, because I may, could, almost, with some chance of inevitability, with a smidgen of luck, probably roll the same conclusion.

I just wrote that because people are already 100% certain that Rob is (or isn't) the main character. I just said that there is NO edge either way so far...

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:13 am

Drone41279
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Re: what if

[quote="HetMasteen"]

Drone41279 wrote:

HetMasteen wrote:

officespacejk wrote:

junior496 wrote:

Anteros wrote:

officespacejk wrote:

EDIT:

"I don't know, I'm like your main dude."

i agree, why would they spend the whole trailer telling about Rob's trip to Japan, the party, and the people at the party reacting to Rob leaving and such if it wasnt about him.

Dude I want a set of those dice your tumbling, because I may, could, almost, with some chance of inevitability, with a smidgen of luck, probably roll the same conclusion.

I just wrote that because people are already 100% certain that Rob is (or isn't) the main character. I just said that there is NO edge either way so far...

I guess thats a yes hes not or a no he is scenario...

It just amazes me how much strength of arguement can be built on rumor and inuendo, to the level where fairy tale becomes fact.
Next we will be searching entrails and reading bones, perhaps drown a witch or two and appoint a finder general. For rumor is truth long live the rumor, pass the weed so we all may see.
And then as ever there are the hyenas circling the drunken sops waiting for one of them to leave the safety of the circle of truth with a few well chosen untruths (poster variation to the fore of an untold truth) and then to lead the weak of mind down a dark ally to destroy their credibility.

Exploitation of the mind enough to send you crazy, its was done in LOST and I think this film will deliver more of the same because everyone loves a mystery especially when the facts are continually just beyond but within reach ask any mouse that expected cheese in a mouse trap but got chocolate instead, either way its one dead mouse.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:55 am

SLUSHO_ZOOM
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A main character is...

THE GUY HOLDING THE CAMERA.

Not a major revelation. But these are supposed to be just average 20 somethings videotaping a party and then all hell breaks loose.

They'll be passing around the camera, lots of jumpy video when they're running alot of screaming and yelling, not alot of plot and no real heroics.

I think that it could be various unconnected people taping in different parts of the city, so the same incident filmed from lots of locations. Someone in a tall building got a shot. Someone from brooklyn, someone from uptown...

It could be just montage after montage with no real plot other than the witnesses of the monster attack. ANd they won't know anything other than what they are seeing.

We'll see the army running around and helicopters and jets... but no play by play from the military.

Could be cool.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:14 am

Drone41279
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Anyone wanna buy a ballbearing everlasting bonbon?
Lots of solid material but no flavour.

You could suck on it for hours.

Yup lots of running around, picture of a drain here, man on corner there, shakey photo of drunken night on the town. Damn my photo album could be a worth a fortune and all those badly taken holiday snaps would produce a slew of movies with no particular theme.

You could call it YouTube the Movie [one guy, one life, one camera].

Lol, but tend to agree with your sentiments nothing as yet that places any factuals in the frame to say its anything more then a could 'B' movie Rolling Eyes

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:27 am

Vince
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Re: A main character is...

SLUSHO_ZOOM wrote:

It could be just montage after montage with no real plot other than the witnesses of the monster attack. ANd they won't know anything other than what they are seeing.

We'll see the army running around and helicopters and jets... but no play by play from the military.

on another forum, i proposed that while we would see proof of the existence of a monster, we would never see the monster itself. we would just get lots of panic and running and stuff, and that the film would actually ask more questions than provide answers. while i find the idea of a monster movie like this exciting, everyone else grew quite upset with me and i was told that my idea did not belong on the forum. in fact, in a later thread, my idea was placed in a list of things not to be discussed. so, i am very very pleased to see that somebody else arrived at this idea as well and i hope people here are a little more accepting.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:35 pm

SisBear
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Yes, but the article at ew.com says that Michael Stahl-David (Rob) will be playing the lead. To me, that implies that we will be following him around the movie in large part. Or else they have bad info.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:41 pm

slushozoom.com
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Re: Just tossing ideas out there
I know for a fact you are right!

cassiv wrote:

I saw a post somewhere with an "inside source" mentioning that the biggest hint in the trailer was the guy saying "It's alive, it's huge"

If you were being chased by a humongous monster, would you say "It's alive"?

I can understand saying "it's huge" but remarking that it's alive really isnt necessary unless it's something that we know shouldnt be alive.

Someone also mentioned the scene in the Lost second season finale where they see a huge foot of a statue, but nothing else.

It was never tied in to anything and I'm not speculating that this is Lost related, however, it wouldnt be a stretch to say that perhaps it's a line of thinking that Abrams has had as a pet idea for a while and while it didnt come into play in Lost, he's doing it as a movie.

Judging from the size of that foot, if a real statue had been there it would have been HUGE.

It reminded me of one of the ancient seven wonders of the world, I give you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes

To add to this, on a plaque that sits at the base of the Statue of Liberty, which was coincidentally designed with the Colossus of Rhodes in mind, reads the following:

"The New Colossus"

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

I'm just tossing an idea out.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:06 am

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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:25 am

Dr. Panda
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It's the MONSTER'S movie
not Rob's. OR the camera guy. like your main dude.

A neat idea:

I doubt this is our colossus, but still. You could fit it in: 'it's alive, [and] huge.' That's silly.
EDIT: OR IS IT?!

Um, yeah hey guys- a little heads up, the slusho T in the trailer is what we like to call a red herring. It pushes the film out of the theater and into our homes via the internet; this whole ARG concept whatever the fuck that is.

Rob isn't some secret scientist working for the iced drink,

and I really hope the entire film doesn't revolve around the stereotypical-hot-A/F-20 somethings in the loft.

What about two young lovers on vacation visiting family in NYC, and end up taping the attack? Students on a field-trip can't sleep in their hotel room and start to make a home-movie, then the attack hits.

There's a lot that could be done with an excellent concept such as this. I'm actually rooting for the flick, having been hooked from the trailer. But the truth is folks, half of us will love it, and half of us will hate it.

Oh, right my theory- ok, so no one has mentioned the "flashback" footage shot on the pier (see: /film) Possibly where Rob was being kept before his surprise party? Or footage from an earlier adventure with Rob before he goes away (the latter seems more probable)

any way- my theory is, Rob is stoic after the yawn because (that first noise, something wakes up) he caught a glimpse of the beast during the "flashback" scene, earlier in the day. he never told anyone about what (he thought) he saw, and the second the lights go out- he knows exactly what's coming.

I wouldn't mind if the movie was Rob's POV of the attack, or more so his like "main dude," but I think there's a lot more here that a guy like JJ could use.

I bet I the ending is the rescue worker taking the tape, and (ethier):

A) Placing it among a neatly organized bag full of other video tapes found in the rubble

--or--

B) Rescue worker keeps the tape, moves on, finds another camera, and begins to rewind another camera.

another ending (idea) I had, was government officials (the tape has moved from the rescue worker and up the chain of command) finish watching the tape. a rich shady (mofo) instructs the secretary of defense to destroy all of the tapes. they keep the monster a secret in order to use as a weapon.

---that last one rings a little like godzilla. kind of---

here's JJ's sequel: a movie under production in new york is pulled to a dead stop when a giant monster takes on manhattan. the behind-the-scenes docu crew captures the horror; please for you to enjoy.

so there you go. some ideas to chew on 'til that dog JJ shares the f'n bone. christ today was a let down.

oh, and I'm extremely cynical/sarcastic Laughing

so let's try and have some fun and don't take everything so seriously. good day.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:52 am

Kai orion
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Looks Like
lol

That Picture looks like the male version of the statue of liberty, look at the head and torch. NO way. JJ wouldn't base his movie on a painting

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:52 am

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