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[LOCKED] A Prophecy of Stars
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AngriBuddhist
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Strange. Two "Ang"s both with circular themes in their avatars.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:16 am
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AngBa
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Well, how about this - I am actually "Angry Banana" 2 Angri(y) B's in the same game sounds like trouble to me!!! Twisted Evil
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Uberg33k
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I think what I said was being taken the wrong way, so let me give some postulations to try and demonstrate my point.

Postulate #1 : Gabriel is a protagonist, Colby is an antagonist. - Gabriel knew of Colby before we told him. He said himself that Chet showed Colby's page to him. So why couldn't Gabriel contact Colby himself? What does he need us for, he could have just sent him the same "human test" puzzle we did to make sure he's ok. But Gabriel didn't do that, so there must be a reason.

Postulate #2 : Colby is a protagonist, Gabriel is an antagonist - We've already been given hints that Gabriel might be compromised. Maybe its true, maybe its just paranoia. If its true, why would we want to lead him to Colby?

Postulate #3 : Both Colby and Gabriel are protagonists, the antagonist is unknown - Gabriel pointed out it isn't safe to communicate directly via email. He's been switching up addresses, sending messages encrypted, etc. Why would it suddenly be ok for us to be sending messages plain text? Shouldn't we be taking similar precautions? If Gabriel is fearful of his safety, shouldn't be be taking equal steps to protect Colby?



The logic of "the PMs are leading us in this direction, lets do it" doesn't take one thing into consideration : choice. We must have some kind of choice(s) in the matter. Otherwise, this isn't really a game (more like a soap opera) and our interaction would never change a thing. Before you jump at the first choice, step back and see what other options on the table. That's all.

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Uberg33k
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I also know that some of you had IM conversations with Christine last night. Where are the logs?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:01 pm
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Esteed
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That's pretty much what I'm saying too, Uber. I don't plan on giving Colby any contact information for Gabriel until I'm positive I can trust him, as shown in the emails I sent him. In order to gain the trust, he'll at least have to explain to me what this "secret" he has with Christine is. And it will have to be a damn good answer. I'm being polite about it, but Gabriel has put his trust in us, and I am not going to carelessly betray that trust.

EDIT: Oh, and excellent Ghostbusters reference. You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
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AngriBuddhist
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Uberg33k, your point was and has been clear since you first made it. I even agreed with you. My point was simply that to follow that course couldn't spell disaster since it has been laid on the table by the PMs.

I don't remember stating which option(s) I prefered and don't believe that I actually do prefer one at this point.

All angles should be explored and every option should be discussed. We seem to be in agreement on this. Seeing as we are, as of now, a small group, I see no problem with approaching this with some sort of concensus. So, please, let me and others discuss whichever options we choose to first.

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Uberg33k
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AngriBuddhist wrote:
Uberg33k, your point was and has been clear since you first made it. I even agreed with you. My point was simply that to follow that course couldn't spell disaster since it has been laid on the table by the PMs.

I don't remember stating which option(s) I prefered and don't believe that I actually do prefer one at this point.

All angles should be explored and every option should be discussed. We seem to be in agreement on this. Seeing as we are ,as of now, a small group, I see no problem with approaching this with some sort of concensus. So, please, let me and others discuss whichever options we choose to first.
My apologies. I tend to over explain myself anyways and combined with what seems like a misread on my part is why I posted it.

Here's my suggestion for how we approach it, please modify it or offer alternatives as you will. We start moving Colby to Gabriel & Co, but in a guarded fashion and not the other way around. All the action is where Gabriel is, so we need him to be our eyes on the ground. Concentrate on using him to find out what is happening. Relaying the events and intel that Gabriel gathers can't really hurt anyone : if Colby is in on it, we're telling him things he already knows, if not then it's all he needs to know is information that helps him unlock his dreams. Who and how we get that information from is unimportant and keeps both parties protected. I think its of the upmost importance to keep Gabriel & Co.'s location a secret along with anything that could be used to identify him. We might have already blown it by telling him that he's Chet's nephew. Until we know who is good and who is bad, do not put them in direct contact with one another. Chet might be good as an IG go-between. He's a bodybuilder, so he's physically capable of defending himself if Colby & crew end up being bad and he's not likely to sell out his own family. If the concensus is that Gabriel is compromised (and therefore likely Chet as well), then we should be the only clearinghouse for all information between the two parties and never give them any direct lines between each other. It would be much harder to keep Gabriel/Chet from finding Colby in that scenario, but we could at least make sure that we keep Colby two steps ahead of them so he can fend for himself.

Or in the parlance of my workplace "We need to be able to unfuck this thing".

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AngriBuddhist
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Unf Censored king-

The less I do of that the better. Wink

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Enixis
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The thing that is keeping me preoccupied as of now is that if Colby really wanted to get to Gabriel, wouldn't it be easy for him? Colby could easily get ahold of Chet through Christine, and then get to Gabriel through Chet. Colby however asked one of us for Gabriel's contact information. I agree with the playing it safe as of now approach. How do we even know we can trust Colby? Being paranoid, much like Gabriel, what if Colby is a "man in black? I mean it seems like he might be using us to find Gabriel. Please let me know what everyone thinks, I'm probably wrong since this is my first ARG.

Edit - So after reading what I just said I realized that we've already established Gabriel is probably an alien, according to Michael. But if he was actually "possessed" why would he go to such lengths to insure that the "men in black" didn't listen in on any of our conversations with him?

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AngriBuddhist
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Enixis, Colby and Christine have very deflty "gained" our trust. Gabriel has gotten our cooperation but maybe we should have put him through a "trust" test like he did to us.

Christine's IM profile (?) though casts a huge amount of doubt onto what we know of her and possibly Colby. The hidden message that goes something like "Do you think they know our secret?" is very alarming.

Of course, she has only been in Colby's life for 1 1/2 weeks and could be manipulating him while working with someone else.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:26 pm
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Colori
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Hey. It's me. Yah! that one! Look! He that guy in the background! xD

Hey guys. I'm going to pop in with my two cents.

First, it doesn't help any of us to fight and argue about ways to go about it. We're overstressing/thinking alot of things. As of right now, we need to let things flow. We need to figure out FACTS, and not Hypothesis. Kthx.

Don't take this the wrong way, I'd rather not get into any arguments with anyone. I'm just saying, as of right now, our best bet seems to be 'go with the flow' and just make sure we have a general idea of what we're doing. So here's my idea on the general consensus. or, at least, mine:

1. Gabriel may or may not be worthy of trust. We'll have to figure that out, of course.

2. Do we know anything? At all? About Michael? I would like someone from the gabriel thread about him. How do we know michaels not the alien, pointing the blame at gabe to get it off of him? Typical mob mentality trick.

3. Colby is a broken record. We don't get anything from him. He started, he connected. other than that, he just sits there.

4.Chet is gone. Possibly alien-ified?

5. Christine...we've only talked to her once or twice, and we haven't gotten a large amount of information. one of the more mysterious of them all, other than chet.

6. Angelica is...not particularly faithful. That's...about all we got from her.

7. Sandals dude. Sure, may not seem important, but you never know. She described him for a reason, in my opinion.

8. It would be best not to tell colby any of Gabe's information. We can tell what he finds out, but not how to get in contact with him. for all we know, colby's an alien and he's trying to get to gabe in particular because he knows too much. Iunno.

9. Calm the hostility! All of a sudden, prophecy/gabe people are arguing. try to mesh. get along. I realise it'll be a bit harder with more people, the small groups were nice, but we have to co-exist now. Kthx.

10. You guys rock! :D!

Alright. Ten important things. Now, anyway, I wish I could show some startling revelation, but so far, i've gotten no answers back from my emails.

-salutes-

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Uberg33k
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I could be wrong, but I dont see the big deal of giving Colby Gabriel's screenname(s) or vice versa. It's not enough to track someone down, and with Gabriel changing contacts left and right he wouldn't be that affected (if it turns out one of these two people aren't who they seem).

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It's not enough for normal people to track people down with. God knows what an advanced alien could do with it. Better to err on the side of caution, IMO.
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Uberg33k
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jabroni wrote:
I could be wrong, but I dont see the big deal of giving Colby Gabriel's screenname(s) or vice versa. It's not enough to track someone down, and with Gabriel changing contacts left and right he wouldn't be that affected (if it turns out one of these two people aren't who they seem).
Keep in mind Gabriel already knew of Colby. He could have contacted him if he wanted to. He didn't for some reason or another. If Gabriel doesn't want to be found by Colby, why should we just lead him to him?

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