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[SPEC] Possible creature theory
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Kayberry
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 		Re: "It"
Almijisti wrote:
TimaciousD wrote:
whatever "it" is I think it is safe to say it is really really tall to be able to reach to head of the SOL and then walk across the bay and leave the wake that "it" leaves and I don't think it would be a flying creature because a flying creature wouldn't leave wake across the bay and it most likely doesn't swim because how could something that lives underwater reach the head of the SOL so I say it is going to be something that walks like godzilla does


Godzilla lived under the water. It's not Godzilla, of course, but there's plenty of movie monsters that go in and out of the water.


Indeed, like Gamera, which I just just just finished watching on The Movie Channel. I know Abrams says his monster is an original creation, but Gamera does leave a nice big wake when entering or exiting the water, has claws and the ability to create big explosions. And the movie did end with the possibility of a sequel, since there are more monster eggs suspected to be out there that could hatch. But no, it's not Gamera.

We know Abrams monster must have claws, which means no amphibians or fish or fishlike mammals. Additionaly, it's consistent from the images we've been presented that there are at least 3 claws, and possibly only three claws, which leaves out all arthropods - you know, insects and arachnids and lobsters. That leaves mammals, birds, reptiles, and your more intelligent mutated space fungi. Let's keep this in mind as we progress.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:54 am
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 		Is tall enough to reach the SOL's head without touching the body of the statue...but short enough not be seen over the buildings in the trailer.
Unless it was crouched down? Maybe?

After seeing the poster I'm only more intrigued than when I saw the trailer.
Six months to kill curiosity.

I tried to respond to this earlier...yet I made a thread out of it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:02 pm
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 		Okay, more speculation on the Abrams monster:

Considering that the Chase Manhattan Building in the teaser poster has claw marks low on the building and an additional mark higher up, we can assume that at the very least its reach is at least nearly as high as the height of the top of the building. However, the marks that are high on the building don't resemble clawing, more like the scraping of some body part against the side of the building as it tries to squeeze into the narrow city street.

Imagine a monster trying to walk in between the two buildings, scraping its legs against the bottoms of the buildings, having to shift its weight forward and to the side in order to keep moving forward, like a person struggling to walk through mud. But by doing this, it smacks its head aside the Chase Manhattan building for a moment, leaving an impression. This interpretation provides us with a good idea of the size of the monster.

Now, the Chase Manhattan building is 248 m / 813 ft high. From this we can very roughly estimate that the monster is about 250 meters in height. In comparison, Godzilla's final height never officially exceeded 100 meters. Even if we considered the high marks on the building caused by clawing, the monster's relative size would still far exceed Godzilla.
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 		A strange never before seen creature
I think the monster is some kind of mutant or alien creature.

Another reason one would say somethings alive, is not only if it were a golem but if it is something thtat they had never seen before. something that no human could have created. a Giant behemoth of an alien.
Dont anticipate a gian animal or chthulu Those would be obvious to the it is alive. and wouldnt get so much excitement. not as much as the "OMFG ITS FLIPPING ALIVE AND ITS FREAKIN HUGE!!!"
Also the monster would need to be able to rip the Statue of libertys head Off(The poster shows that it wasnt simply knocked off, there would be cracks if it were knocked off.)
Also a giant rock man wouldnt have a roar like the one we have heard. this is a monster similar to godzilla but much different (big and unnatural to our time)

I have a picture of my idea of what he monster MAY(not will MAY as in a 10000000/.5 CHANCE THAT IT WILL in favor of the not)
If I can redraw it on some easier to scan paper I will upload it



also in regards to the explosion:
Theres no proof that the explosion was caused directly by the monster(IT using some power) Opposed to it throwing an explosive object like a truck or oil tanker with gas (which we know is highly combustible). these things are things we need to think outside the box for.

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 		Well, they supposedly shot part of the movie at a Coney Island amusement park, so maybe it's a giant mutant Coney Island Whitefish Wink

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 		What I'm really wondering is that if he's so huge, how come we couldn't see him when the camera turned to the explosion.

The only possible explenation is that the monster was throwing or *shooting* stuff from off the screen. This would explain how at one point there's an explosion in the middle of new york and the next he somehow reached the statue of liberty. He could've been at the statue the entire time.

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 		They did not want us to see the monster.
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h00chi3 wrote:
They did not want us to see the monster.


Exactly but you can't have an invisible monster because your audience can't see it. If he didn't want us to see it, the monster must've either been:

Covered by the explosion
OR
Offscreen

Assuming he's as huge as concluded.

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Kraker wrote:
h00chi3 wrote:
They did not want us to see the monster.


Exactly but you can't have an invisible monster because your audience can't see it. If he didn't want us to see it, the monster must've either been:

Covered by the explosion
OR
Offscreen

Assuming he's as huge as concluded.


Not really. One of the best movie monsters is the Id Monster created by the Krell in Forbidden Planet--that was invisible except for one short scene when you see only the outline of the monster as it's hitting a force field.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:00 am
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 		 Creature theory
part chicken perhaps?
One thing that strikes me as odd about the creature and the trailer is how the times on the 01-18-08 website correlate to the damage the creature has done, or rather hasn't. Let me explain:

The latest time I see on a picture on the website is 1:24am, showing the woman in dark on the left, the military man in the middle, a civilian running towards the camera on the right, and a car in the background. The picture with the smoke / dust all over has a time stamp of 12:48am, presumably taken on the streets.

The conclusion I draw from that is that the attack was brief, and did not persist past the later time. Future pictures may prove me wrong, but it seems to me that since the 12:48 picture seemed to be a steady shot, while the 1:24 am picture seemed blurry, leads me to believe that the creature attacked twice. That, combined with the fact that it identified the head of the statue of liberty but wasn't intelligent enough to know it was fake makes me think that it is a sentient creature, but barbaric and possessing little more than instinctual responses.

As to what it could look like, the cutout left on the buildings based on the promo poster photo below:



and the marks on the back of the SOL:



it looks to me that it has at least 3 claw fingers per hand, with possibly an opposable thumb to grip the head of the SOL. Based on the shape of the destruction on the buildings, I think it's not a 'chubby' monster (e.g. whale) but rather a bi-pedal creature who pulled himself out of the water. A frame of reference for these assumptions is the 'cutout' the creature left when it got out of the water:



I see there that it might of been dragging on the right side with the possible heft of the SOL's head (explaining the bigger destruction and coke bottle shape carved out of the building on the right) which I'm going to assume was dragged onto shore, rather than being thrown after being ripped off. The damage on the top left of the buildings shot looks like it was a claw that was dragged down as it climbed out of the water, again supporting the theory that it was carrying the SOL's head on the right side and is bi-pedal.

Ultimately, I envision something along the lines of this picture I found on the internet:



Just my over-analyzed and possibly far-fetched $0.02

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 		I think the poster was just made as something to look cool for a promo. That's about all you need. It's important to remember that there are a few of us who go on UF's forums and get down and dirty with this stuff, then there are the other 99% who see the promo on a bus, a billboard, or something of the sort and say "Hey, that looks like a cool monster movie coming out in a few months. I have to remember to see that."

My best guess is that the promo is there to look cool and garner eyeballs (a.k.a. attention). Nothing more, nothing less. You won't find any hints in there.
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 		or it could be so massive that was just where one of its legs entered
haha
or going even farther one of its toes!

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 		just asking
what would the possibilities of this monster beign out of fire, as i have no evidence to back it up
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...THIS is the true face of Cloverfield
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...Or maybe my minds just gone to mushy from over speculation?

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 		Hey All, been lurking since the trailer and figured I'd start throwing my $.02 in...
I'd be willing to bet that a good reason we haven't seen the monster (and hopefully won't until it's on screen) is that the final design for the creature hasn't even been approved yet. If JJ wants to create a totally original creature that'll have the iconic potential of a King Kong or Godzilla, then they'll probably be tweaking it until the very last minute to make sure they get it right.
Of course, that shouldn't take away the fun part of this thread which is the spec. Hell, it'd be pretty cool if the discussion was influencing it, huh? Unless of course it's a giant Chthulhu-bot that's a combination of robot lions with tummies full of alien frozen oceanwater...
...wait I take it all back, that's exactly what it is! Everybody's right!

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