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Simmons247 · Boot Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Scotland

[info][spec] Iris, sparta and helen of troy

**Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:47 am

Vossk

Yep, spartans are named after spartans. Probally because their elite super soldiers like the ancient spartans.
Personally, i dont think its relevant. But weve known Bungie has looked into Spartan history since we first heard Master Chief was a spartan class warrior. Maybe we should look for a glyph in 300? Razz

**Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:16 am

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Simmons247 · Boot Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Scotland

well of course he's named after the spartan soldiers but i ment maybe we should look into iris and spartan a bit deeper ?
we may aswell considering nothing seems to be happening...

**Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:18 am

Vossk

Yeah, if you want you should look into it more. I think at this point we all have our own corners with our own little projects. I think its a waiting game as of now. But you never know.

OT: I had a dream of Server 3 unlocking last night, shows you how much im obsessed with this ARG, hehe

**Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:31 am

Arkanor · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 89

It's possible that there's a connection here. However it's worth noting, the Sparta of Menelaus wasn't the Sparta of Leonidas. The Sparta mentioned in the Illiad and Odyssey bears very few similarities (as I remember) to the historical Sparta. (For example in Homer's works, Sparta has only one king, whereas historically it had two)

The choice of the name 'Spartans' for the second phase of Project ORION had more to do with the training regime for Spartans in ancient times - taken from their families at age six and raised in a barracks, and frequently forced to fend for themselves with minimal resources as a test of endurance and resourcefulness. We can, I am sure, all draw parallels to the SPARTAN-II program here.

I don't recall that bit about Iris being the messenger - could you provide a citation for that?

Also a search pulled up another interesting reference to Iris, albeit not mythologically related. Please note the presence of the number 7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_Iris

**Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:30 pm

Vossk

Nice find on the Iris 7 Arkanor, pretty neat.
Youve been around since '05 and have only made 4 posts? You seem pretty smart, where have you been?

**Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:42 pm

Arkanor · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 89

I lurk a lot. Actually I was here during ILB but neither posted not registered, something that I regretted later.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:05 pm

coloneloneill · Veteran Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 90

actually that iris thing could be mytholgically related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_%28mythology%29

**Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:56 pm

blackhawk127 · Decorated Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 278

arkanor is right the spartans from the iliad were a completely different class of spartans, pretty much the only thing similar is the fact that they come from the same city. After the times mentioned in the iliad greece was invaded by the dorians. The dorian sparta was the sparta involved in the persian war and the ones with the insane customs. Not the sparta of helen.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:36 pm

Vossk

Are all the Leonidas-age comments spun off from my comment about 300? I was just joking. Ive looked into Spartan history multiple times (prior to the ARG) and know the difference between what were talking about.

**Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:48 am

hogarth3 · Kilroy Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 2

here is another thing. my boss told me today that it should be isis. not iris. she said that because that Isis was "keeper of the flame" she also points out that the glyphs look alot like Chicago planetarium (top view) from the Flight Simulator series. And one last thing. scientist believe that the beginning of man began at 2560 bc. what happens in the halo universe is in the year 2552. could this be what cortana was saying from the e3 teaser trailer "this is the way the world ends" (the quote from The Hollow Me by T.S. Elliot)

i just wanted to point those out.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:51 pm

Tweek178 · Boot Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 68

MConnalley · Veteran Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 118

dude calm down

**Posted:** Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:00 am

AMarine88 · Veteran Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 79

OMG this is why the covenant hate the humans..... the wife of one of the elders slept with one of the human generals...... it all makes sense now..... Smile

**Posted:** Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:44 pm

carbonize · Boot Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 59 Location: Bristol, UK

I thought it was well known that Bungie was inspired by history? I mean from the books we know the name Spartans came from the 300 story (Sorry can't remember the name of the battle) and the original games, Marathon, were named after a famous Greek battle as well.

And has been mentioned many times part of the Halo story seems to have been taken from the bible with reference to the ark and the coming flood.

[OT] I watched Evan Almighty last night and was trying not to laugh when I was picturing his ark on a sea of the Flood.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:22 am

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