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LordC
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Formula image

This image looks like it was written on a chalkboard. Maybe we are to find the complete chalkboard image (such as one with the author/physicist posed as if writing it) to determine our next clue.

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I concur that it looks like this is just part of a larger image/equation. I think the half line on the right is meant to indicate this.

As also been suggested perhaps we are to find the image this was taken from. Or possibly not. At present this ARG doesn't really make much sense.
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[quote="Transtar"]
pondrthis wrote:

AND the XKCD comic for the occasion:



Xkcd is fifty kinds of awesome.

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So e has a dash next to it, which implies that the rest of the equation shows that e will be to the negative power.

Isn't that really unusual?

Also, I feel like e^i(pi)= -1 figures here. I'm going to play with this some more.

Edit: Never mind, pondrthis covered all this already.

Edit: Does anyone know Schrodinger's equation well? I don't have time to do that many derivations, but I feel like you could fit this into that too... and the idea of the flood being so questionable would make the equation a nice candidate too.

But then again, I just like playing with equations so I'm probably stretching.

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the thon about quantium stuff is alot of times they drop/add a negative sign so that you can be describing positive or negative probability...or somethinig like that.(been a while)

The closest thing I got was Schrodingers equation for a 1d particle with free propagation which can be found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_in_a_box#Free_propagation

But knowing the story i find it more likely that it will be a deravation of a particle in a ring than a particle in a box (working on the theory now)

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I'm no math expert, but one thing I have noticed is that this isn't the first time 108 has shown up:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12653

Is it possible that the numbers and/or letters in the close-up image, could be used as a cypher to figure out the rest of the image?

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thebruce wrote:
we already noted near the start of the thread that rotated 180 degrees (like calculator speak) it reads "modus108" and 108 is significant due to death angle 108 (in relation to pentagon angles). It's fairly clear the 801snpow ~ modus108. It's highliy unlikely snpow is an anagram for anything significant...


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Zatara_ wrote:
I'm no math expert, but one thing I have noticed is that this isn't the first time 108 has shown up:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12653

Is it possible that the numbers and/or letters in the close-up image, could be used as a cypher to figure out the rest of the image?


Yep:
With this jpg,
the quote "D34th 4nGle 108" from that picture (bottom of the linked page)
And the definitely ILBish reference to a "ROGUE PROCESS"

I would think there's got to be something there. And probably related to this.

? POS/NAV followed by a bunch of #s could refer to a position or navigation coordinate?


Searched for D34th 4nGle here on unfiction and only found this converstation. That one didn't really seem to go anywhere. http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20138&highlight=4ngle+d34th
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weephun wrote:
thebruce wrote:
we already noted near the start of the thread that rotated 180 degrees (like calculator speak) it reads "modus108" and 108 is significant due to death angle 108 (in relation to pentagon angles). It's fairly clear the 801snpow ~ modus108. It's highliy unlikely snpow is an anagram for anything significant...


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Zatara_ wrote:
I'm no math expert, but one thing I have noticed is that this isn't the first time 108 has shown up:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12653

Is it possible that the numbers and/or letters in the close-up image, could be used as a cypher to figure out the rest of the image?


Yep:
With this jpg,
the quote "D34th 4nGle 108" from that picture (bottom of the linked page)
And the definitely ILBish reference to a "ROGUE PROCESS"

I would think there's got to be something there. And probably related to this.

? POS/NAV followed by a bunch of #s could refer to a position or navigation coordinate?


Searched for D34th 4nGle here on unfiction and only found this converstation. That one didn't really seem to go anywhere. http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20138&highlight=4ngle+d34th




D34th 4nGle 108
modus108

Dm3o4dtuhs41n0G8l e 108
mDo3d4utsh140n8G le 108
dmeoadtuhs
mdoedautsh
amnogdlues
maondgulse
D th nGle 344 108

what is a "death angle" anyway?
108º....
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pondrthis wrote:
I am a third year engineering and math student at Vanderbilt University, so I'll say I have more math/physics knowledge than everything I'm reading. If you have no knowledge don't confuse people that have half-knowledge with your bad ideas.

For the meantime, don't spec on science if you don't know H 2 O from H 2 SO 4 .


Honestly Pondr, you've been wrong more times on this forum than you have been right and so far you haven't solved anything, so what's the problem with people speccing what they know? How about cutting the smartie-pants routine until after you've actually graduated. Just because you didn't get into MIT, don't take it out on the people posting in the forums. Wink

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040319h.jpg

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OT- i gotta agree with dunia, whoop dee doo ur in ur 3rd year of engineering. the first two years are primarily all basic college classes so ur still on par with everyone else whose been to college (i kno cuz ur not the only engineering student, cuz i'm in my final year, does that make me better than u???, hooray for me) and using my "engineering skills" i'm gonna deduce that ur a chemical engineer from that H2SO4 joke, considerin its an old joke from high school chem. so until u got a degree in physics (which seems more likely to be related in this puzzle) dont try to act like ur at the top of the pyramid

back to the SPEC- as for now, we have no way of knowing that the e is euler's number until we have that missing exponent, so y not work with wut we have until the exponent is possibly located instead of making things more complicated by assuming that their complicated....for the peeps that think their high and mighty, here's another lil college joke. KISS....Keep It Simple Stupid, start easy then work ur way up to the complex when necessary...silly 3rd years....

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Transtar
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goofyrebel wrote:
and using my "engineering skills" i'm gonna deduce that ur a chemical engineer from that H2SO4 joke, considerin its an old joke from high school chem. so until u got a degree in physics (which seems more likely to be related in this puzzle) dont try to act like ur at the top of the pyramid
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UMMMM .... ChE here, and this stuff is covered in a ChE course load ( why i kept talking about P Chem) so if he is a ChE he does have a leg to stand on there. HOWEVER, I do agree that his posts were harsh. But people should realze its the intrtubes...It takes all kinds to make the world go round(or the internet work).


And now fo something completely different:

well I can say with 99.99% certanity that that e is euler's number.

Psi is the waveform equation, Pi is Pi, m is the mass of the particle, and e is eulers constant. This is a standard quantium physics equation. If I had to take a stab in the dark I would say that the exponent is -ikL but thats just a gut feeling I have and I have no proof.

EDIT: dis ChE cant spellz doz good grammerz
Edit#2: Greek alphabet typo thanks goofyrebel

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OT - haha, cant argue there Tran...ChE here too! but my point wuznt that he doesnt have a leg to stand on, its that he's not as high up as he boasts, especially considerin the majority of the material he wrote in wuz already posted on the previous page. and the ChE courses i took is how i knew that info

SPEC - and i can believe the e is the euller's number, but we can't work it unless we have the exponent so theres no point in workin an equation if its unworkable...so till we can work it with eullers number, my preference is to attempt workin it with somethin that is workable

QUESTION - can you double check and clarify for us ur equation in ur last post
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Phi is the waveform equation, Pi is Pi, m is the mass of the particle, and e is eulers constant. This is a standard quantium physics equation. If I had to take a stab in the dark I would say that the exponent is -ikL but thats just a gut feeling I have and I have no proof.

i ask b/c we had already decided we were workin with Psi, not Phi....just curious for a possible grammar error....ChE's...we dont take the time to spell rite but we sure as hell can blow ur shit up

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SPEC - as to the complete formula....I MITE have a lead....if u look at the pic it looks just like the wall that the artifacts are rotating in so i compared objects and found a similar spot....Server One in the bottom left corner just before it gets black matches the pic with the formula perfectly....my initial reference point is the circle with a whole in the center (donut) and then from there the shape of the objects around it, so if neone can view it and analyze the picture better to see if there is writing on the wall we mite have our exponent[/b]

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Somebody either email Ronald Mallett or go and see him at Connecticut University since he is the worlds foremost authority on time travel. Hell he claims to have come up with a way of doing it using nothing more than circulating beams of light.
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The Burning Fool
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Just a thought: 801 can be read as a 8/01. Could that mean something is gonna happen on August 1st? Maybe a new clue?

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