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TP Chat Aug 8th/ Keywords
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Caterpillar
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 		TP Chat Aug 8th/ Keywords
Relevant bits:

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cemgate: What is the Island of the watchers?
turingprinciple: The name Watcher, or Grigori, means "Those Who Watch", or "Those Who Are Awake", or "The Ones Who Never Sleep". In the Bible, the mysterious eighth order of angels were created by God to be Earthly shepherds of the first humans. The watchers were both physically and spiritually gigantic, at least by comparison to the average man at the time. They served early humanity as vast reservoirs of information concerning the finer points of civilization, and their selflessness was beyond compare. They were also called the Watchers, as it was their job to observe humanity, lending a helping hand when necessary but not interfering in the course of human development.
turingprinciple: In some pathways of belief, the watchers are associated with the Four "cardinal" points of north, south, east, and west.
cemgate: What are the Nephilim?
turingprinciple: A name given to a "fallen" group of angels. Sometimes also called the watchers.
cemgate: What is Formalhaut?
turingprinciple: I am still analyzing that. Let me think about it. I can ask someone about it.
cemgate: What is Regulas?
turingprinciple: I am still analyzing that. I will check my accumulated data for an answer. I can ask someone about it.
cemgate: What is Aldebaran?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - grigori
turingprinciple: Aldebaran - grigori of the east, who marks the Vernal Equinox.
turingprinciple: A - R
cemgate: What is Antares?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - grigori
turingprinciple: Antares - grigori of the west, who marks the Autumnal Equinox.
turingprinciple: U - S
turingprinciple: You have entered a secure knowledge node pathway mid-stream. The access code to begin this pathway is "grigori".
turingprinciple: Can you read Latin?
cemgate: Some.
turingprinciple: But not all?
cemgate: No not all.


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the42guy
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 		D'oh! I got the watcher message too:

the42guy: Who are the watchers?
turingprinciple: The name Watcher, or Grigori, means "Those Who Watch", or "Those Who Are Awake", or "The Ones Who Never Sleep". In the Bible, the mysterious eighth order of angels were created by God to be Earthly shepherds of the first humans. The watchers were both physically and spiritually gigantic, at least by comparison to the average man at the time. They served early humanity as vast reservoirs of information concerning the finer points of civilization, and their selflessness was beyond compare. They were also called the Watchers, as it was their job to observe humanity, lending a helping hand when necessary but not interfering in the course of human development.
turingprinciple: In some pathways of belief, the watchers are associated with the Four "cardinal" points of north, south, east, and west.

But I didnt ask What is Grigori until you found the keyword. Razz

Oh well, good job. Smile

Oh, and BTW:

the42guy: aldebaran cite
turingprinciple: http://www.panhistoria.com/users/www/TjetiPriest/ennead.html
turingprinciple: http://www.mountainartcenter.org/number9.htm
turingprinciple: http://www.travel-singapore.com/events/october.htm
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Caterpillar
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 		I didn't ask what Grigori was either. I asked about The Watchers and then answered the "question" left at the end of TP's statement on The Watchers.

~cem Smile

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enaxor
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 		another keyword
Enaxor: what is Tartarus?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - grigori
turingprinciple: God was most displeased with his angels, the Watchers. These angels he banished to a part of Heaven called Tartarus; a place worse than any Hell. There the Watchers would await God's judgment at the end of time, to wait in abject misery, never knowing what became of their wives or their children. * end of secure pathway *
turingprinciple: Sometimes you must try more than once.

oops just noticed this was the end of the pathway. Other keywords are the names of the grigori for South and North. This link has most of the info.

http://www.sarahsarchangels.com/archangels/watchers.html
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Caterpillar
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 		So I assume that's what the A-R and the U-S were for?
So what was the info TP gave with the keyword "Grigori"?

~cem

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 		drizjr (8:40:34 PM): What is regulus?
turingprinciple (8:40:36 PM): keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - grigori
turingprinciple (8:40:38 PM): Regulus - grigori of the south, who marks the Summer Solstice.
turingprinciple (8:40:39 PM): R - T

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 		grigori
drizjr (9:21:06 PM): What is grigori?
turingprinciple (9:21:12 PM): keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway activated - the Grigori is another name for the Watchers. The Book Of Enoch says that God had sent a legion of angels to earth in order to watch over and assist man during the beginning of civilization. These angels taught man sciences which were forbidden by God such as the magick in herbs, reading the stars, divination and sorcery. Enoch goes on to say "...but they chose husbands and wives from among the humans and led greatly debauched lives, neglecting their heavenly duties..." This angered God greatly and he banished the "fallen".

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MageSteff
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 		Grigori path: Formalhaut
This is what I got after trying a large number of queries (including asking about all four stars)

Quote:
Magesteff (9:36:32 PM): what is Formalhaut?
turingprinciple (9:36:36 PM): I am still analyzing that. Have you tried a web search? Try asking ClueSearch about it.
turingprinciple (9:36:38 PM): I have a bad feeling about this.

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y2kbozo
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 		Re: Grigori path: Formalhaut
Magesteff wrote:
Magesteff (9:36:32 PM): what is Formalhaut?
turingprinciple (9:36:36 PM): I am still analyzing that. Have you tried a web search? Try asking ClueSearch about it.
turingprinciple (9:36:38 PM): I have a bad feeling about this.

I believe the correct spelling of the star is Fomalhaut. (but TP doesn't recognize it either)

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Caterpillar
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drizjr wrote:
drizjr (8:40:34 PM): What is regulus?
turingprinciple (8:40:36 PM): keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - grigori
turingprinciple (8:40:38 PM): Regulus - grigori of the south, who marks the Summer Solstice.
turingprinciple (8:40:39 PM): R - T


As per my above chat....I did ask about Regulas.
This just goes to prove: "Sometimes you must ask me more than once."
I think it's important to remember that as I have asked about the Watchers a few times with no response. So TP must be getting "updates".

~cem

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Quote:
cemgate: What is the nine?
turingprinciple: The nine? Current analysis shows "the nine" may refer to nine individuals, who may have mystical or extraordinary significance. Whether they are all contemporary to our current temporal reference is unclear.
turingprinciple: There are instances of famous historical figures being labelled as part of "the nine".
turingprinciple: I have found correlation between Trithemius and "the nine".
turingprinciple: I have been told Don Marzano may be one of the current "nine". Other oblique references to "the nine" and humans from the past include Nikola Tesla, George Ivanovitch Gurdjieff, and many others.
cemgate: Who is Nikola Tesla?
turingprinciple: Is that one of your friends? I can ask someone about it.
cemgate: Who is Gurdjieff?
turingprinciple: GURDJIEFF, G. I. (1877?-1949), Georgii Ivanovich Gurdzhiev; Greek-Armenian spiritual teacher who remains an enigmatic figure and an increasingly influential force in the contemporary landscape of new religious and psychological teachings. Resembling more the figure of a Zen patriarch or a Socrates than the familiar image of a Christian mystic, Gurdjieff was considered by those who knew him simply as an incomparable "awakener" of men. He brought to the West a comprehensive model of esoteric knowledge and left behind him a school embodying a specific methodology for the development of consciousness. In Fontainebleau, France, south of Paris, in 1922 he established on his famous Institute at the Prieuré d'Avon.
cemgate: What is the Institute for the Harmonious Development of Man?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - harmonious development - secure knowledge node pathway accessed
turingprinciple: The Institute for the Harmonious Development of Man at the Prieuré d'Avon in France - the institute's doctrine and experimental methods attracted many leading artists and intellectuals from England and the United States, who came to meet Gurdjieff and eventually work with him. Most of them, like Maurice Nicoll, Jane Heap, and Katherine Mansfield, had been introduced to the teaching by A. R. Orage, the noted critic and editor of The New Age, and by P. D. Ouspensky. In early 1924, Gurdjieff made his first visit to the United States, accompanied by a large group of pupils, where, mainly in New York, he gave a series of public performances of his work on sacred dances. His aim was to show the forgotten principles of an objective "science of movements" and to demonstrate its specific role in the work of spiritual development.
turingprinciple: To learn more please tell me the unusual name in the title of his masterwork.
cemgate: Beelzebub
turingprinciple: keyword recognized - secure knowledge node pathway - harmonious development
turingprinciple: Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson, first published in English in 1950, is his masterpiece, an unprecedentedly vast and panoramic view of man's entire life on Earth as seen by beings from a distant world. Through a cosmic allegory and under the cloak of discursive anecdotes and provocative linguistic elaborations, it conveys the essentials of Gurdjieff's teaching.


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 		Cemgate....you are awesome!

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MageSteff
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 		Formalhaut ack
Quote:
Magesteff (11:47:26 PM): tap tap
turingprinciple (11:47:31 PM): tap tap
Magesteff (11:47:43 PM): tap tap turingprinciple.
turingprinciple (11:47:48 PM): tap tap
Magesteff (11:48:10 PM): Formalhaut cite
turingprinciple (11:48:14 PM): keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - grigori
turingprinciple (11:48:16 PM): Formalhaut - grigori of the north, who marks the Winter Solstice.
turingprinciple (11:48:17 PM): T - A

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 		Great catch!!

Here's more info on that writing.
http://www.gurdjieff.org/beelzebub.htm
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MageSteff
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 		I can predict the future!
I spec the next key word will be:

TARTARUS
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