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[REFERENCE] The Story So Far
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tygr20 wrote:
FromTheDeep wrote:
I keep reading the transcript of the comic con video and i cant find were he says the monster is original or not been done before or not Cthulhu, all he says is that its an american monster and not king kong. that leaves any american based creature open game right?


America has King Kong, that's our only monster. JJ said that wouldn't be it. How else could it not be original? Ref thread, no spec. Sorry, but thanks.


well if i am correct H.P. Lovecraft is american, thus making Cthulhu american

not saying it is cthulhu just stating a fact

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 		Regardless of what the monster may or may not be, I'll hold fast that it is an original monster, and I may be wrong. Being as this is turning out not to be an ARG, I will not monitor this thread until we find evidence otherwise, I will not update it, I'll just let it be. This thread was merely to help people coming in now to be able to catch up quickly on the discussion, rather than reading 350 + pages including the "quote monster." The only information posted in here is confirmed infomation. The context of JJ's saying he wanted an American monster leads one to believe it will be an original, never before seen monster. That's immediately what 90% of unForums' members who read the transcript were led to believe, including myself, and I will keep it as such until the monster is revealed. If at that point the monster is Cthulhu, Leviathan, Behemoth, or any other theories that have been proposed, I will retract my statement that it is an original monster and repost showing it to be said monster.

Also- there is a Cthulu movie in the works, and JJ Abrams has NO HAND in it. The information for said movie can be found here.

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CJAnderson wrote:
"I don't remember him saying it was 'American.' I believe he just said that 'We need our own monster'.

How else would he mean "our own monster?" Paramount's? Bad Robot's? American is the only connotation that can be drawn from this.

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OMG King Kong is NOT the only American monster LOL. I have watched like 10-20 different old monster movies set in america and only 2-3 were king kong. there have been giant lizards, robots, alien lizards, alien robots, even a giant woman. maybe you should look up more old monster films to get a idea of the scope of monster flicks.

King Kong is the only truly "American" monster that matters on any scale. I don't see any other monster that shapes the face of American monster movies like King Kong. Sure, there are a thousand low budget monster movies, but there are only a handful of influential American monsters, and King Kong is the top dog.

For God's sake- if you have a question, comment, or addition to what I have in here, please just PM me. Guests, that means you'd have to register. Rather than cluttering this thread up for the people who need to read it to know what's going on, send me a PM, I'll read it, and if what you've said is correct, confirmed, or warrants addition, I'll add it, regardless of my personal bias. Just please help me keep this clean for the new people. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:29 am
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imeaneventually
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 		about these pictures...
alright. so often people dismiss some of the information that comes through by quickly saying something to the effect of how abrams or a scriptwriter would never make a stupid mistake... whether its improper grammar or whatever...

but...

so the pictures on 1-18-08.com... we all know we can flip them over and they say stuff on them... they're signed by rob's friends... the pictures say that they were taken shortly after the midnight... and then the ones that say nothing are all around 1 or 1:30 am. so we're to believe that they either a) had this roll of film developed and then signed them all yearbook style after they went through this monster shit. b) had a darkroom at the party c) had a really great photo printing setup at the party, like all ibook commercial style... i mean, they look like ipod carrying volvo drivers for sure.. but...

did this jamie girl really stop during the attack of this flying-swimming-stomping-chinese-japanese-completelyamerican-squidzillatron lion monster(s) with it's amazing array of smaller dinosaur zombies, and write a heartwarming message about how hot she is, and how he should totally tell everyone in japan about her loose sorority poon.

actually... maybe she did.

just like a woman to stop an astrophysicist/biologist/geneticist in a time of crisis to talk about her makeup.

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 		Re: about these pictures...
imeaneventually wrote:
...so we're to believe that they either a) had this roll of film developed and then signed them all yearbook style after they went through this monster shit. b) had a darkroom at the party c) had a really great photo printing setup at the party, like all ibook commercial style... i mean, they look like ipod carrying volvo drivers for sure.. but...


Maybe they'll be using (future tense Smile ) a Polaroid.
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 		re: about these pictures
they don't look like polaroid pictures to me. they look like 5X7 prints to me... i'm not ansel adams or anything but still...

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osidianrose
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 		re: about these pictures
umm.... one of the characters is a photographer. She could have brought a photo printer to the party or the party place could have a photo printer there. Photo printers aren't expensive. There are portable ones that you can put your camera on top of and print. It's really not that expensive.

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 		re: about the pictures
Yeah that "bugged" me ( though that's too strong ) when I saw them on the website , is this where you'd use the term META?

It's seems there "in the game" but not "of the game" ... kind of crossing IG and OOG , obviously for the purposes of promoting the movie.

Kind of like in pen and paper RPGs you'll befriend a hostile race ( run by a fellow PC ) a little easier than you would an NPC member of the same race.

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 		 Please!
Can someone update this for all the new people?! We tell them to read this stuff first, but it isn't even up to date. I know alot of the info but I don't think I could put it all down here! Cool

Thanks
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 		Re: Please!
Matt Dark wrote:
Rob = in marketing, most likely working for a company (if not now in the future) called Tagruato (www.Tagruato.jp).

Jamie = Has a boyfriend named teddy, she more than likely just cheated on him, we learned this per www.Jamieandteddy.com the password is jllovesth.

Teddy = Jamie's boyfriend who is off "saving the world" somewhere. We don't know too much about him.

Tagruato = a company in Japan who is working in deep sea drilling and has claimed to find 'the necter of the sea' or deep sea ingredient (DSI). They use DSI we're pretty sure in all their products. Especially they're most advertised product Slusho!
Slusho.

Slusho = www.Slusho.jp- Is a sort of Icee drink that contains the DSI and what seems to be Tagruato's most popular subsidiary

Bold Futura = Another subsidiary of Tagruato that deals in advanced technology. Only found on Tagruato's webpage.

Yoshida Medical Research (YMR) = Also a sub of Tagruato, is a genetic research firm dealing mostly in deep sea bioproducting. Only found on Tagruato's webpage.

ParafFUN = sub of Tagruato - a manufacturer of parafin wax with many uses. Only found on Tagruato's webpage.

Delicious MacDoob = Food critic that led us to Tagruato from his talk of DSI. http://www.menuism.com/restaurants/bKTPlaARWr3lUXaby-Gaa7-garbanzos-sandefjord

www.01-18-08.com = A site that holds pictures seemingly from the future, if you move them around you can flip them over to reveal writing on the back of some of them, look through the forums to see the translation to the one in Japanese.


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 		umm okay. i just found this forum and i like the info ive seen so far and i thought that i would post this pics that i found off of the 1-18-08 trailer. i took some screen shots of text if anyone wants to help me figure out what it could possibly mean that would be amazing.


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tuckervb wrote:
umm okay. i just found this forum and i like the info ive seen so far and i thought that i would post this pics that i found off of the 1-18-08 trailer. i took some screen shots of text if anyone wants to help me figure out what it could possibly mean that would be amazing.


Welcome to unFiction! The text you're talking about has been discussed thoroughly- here being a good example. Just make sure you use the search function first, it'll answer a rather large bunch of questions before you have to ask. But again- welcome!
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 		If you would do some research, you would find that "Cthulu : The Movie",the link you posted in order to make it evident that the idea was out of the question at this point, actually bears no trace of Cthulu within the movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_%282007_film%29

Some quick research will show you that this movie was named Cthulu only for the very light references to one of Lovecraft's stories "Shadow Over Innsmouth" which is a tale of weird half human half fish people causing some ruckus, with a homosexual protagonist narrating the horrors of being gay in an intolerant community. They slapped Cthulu on it to make the movie sound more grand in scale, and since they were already touching on a Lovecraft tale anyway, they just thought it reasonable to roll with a big gun name.

The movie isn't good, it's cheap and seems like borderline laughable entertainment. You'll get that from any site that could bare to review it. The following describes it as using Lovecraft as a "shell for a propaganda machine". Yeah, that sounds like the true vision of Cthulu brought about within a movie.

http://www.ectomo.com/?p=262

So saying outright that the monster Cthulu has already been used very recently and therefor out of the question would be a false and unsupported statement.

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drayk wrote:
If you would do some research, you would find that "Cthulu : The Movie",the link you posted in order to make it evident that the idea was out of the question at this point, actually bears no trace of Cthulu within the movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_%282007_film%29

Some quick research will show you that this movie was named Cthulu only for the very light references to one of Lovecraft's stories "Shadow Over Innsmouth" which is a tale of weird half human half fish people causing some ruckus, with a homosexual protagonist narrating the horrors of being gay in an intolerant community. They slapped Cthulu on it to make the movie sound more grand in scale, and since they were already touching on a Lovecraft tale anyway, they just thought it reasonable to roll with a big gun name.

The movie isn't good, it's cheap and seems like borderline laughable entertainment. You'll get that from any site that could bare to review it. The following describes it as using Lovecraft as a "shell for a propaganda machine". Yeah, that sounds like the true vision of Cthulu brought about within a movie.

http://www.ectomo.com/?p=262

So saying outright that the monster Cthulu has already been used very recently and therefor out of the question would be a false and unsupported statement.


Point taken. Regardless of this Cthulhu movie that apparently wasn't really Cthulhu related, it's still a very safe bet that it will not be the monster. While JJ never officially used the term "original monster," I find it hard to believe he'd be using the Cthulhu in a movie he's obviously trying to make a part of our culture, permanently. Why use someone else's monster?
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 		I made a pretty extensive timeline of the story so far, with links. Check it out.
http://www.learningtools.arts.ubc.ca/timeline/mytimeline.php?seed=870338560%20&dimension=

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eliwein wrote:
I made a pretty extensive timeline of the story so far, with links. Check it out.
http://www.learningtools.arts.ubc.ca/timeline/mytimeline.php?seed=870338560%20&dimension=


It might be just me, but your link is dead. It doesn't go to a 404 or anything- I just don't see anything when I click the link. I do see javascript in the source- can someone confirm this link is working?
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