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[TRAILHEAD?] The Red King Project
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Chronus_Valtiel
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Location: Some house I found. The people in it are really annoying.

 		Wait a second.
He says he's a man of something.
The Red King was a methodist I believe.
Could Samuel have meant to say he was a man of God?

Could Samuel Tyler be the Red King?

UPDATE: I copied the email on R.F.'s blog and asked if he made any sense of it.
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the_velociraptor
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 		I've suspected him of that. I've been smacked in the face with so many "OH NOES HE'S THE REAL VILLAIN" and twist endings.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:17 pm
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waitress#2
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 		This is the email response I received from Samuel regarding whether he could see the face image on the video cap.

Quote:
I CAN SEE IT BUT I NEED YOUR HELP TO GET THE WHOLE VIDEO

I NEED YOU TO TELL ME WHERE HIS FAMILY WENT

I NEED TO FIND THEM

YOU GET THEIR TEMPORARY HOME INFORMATION AND ANYTHING YOU WANT IS YOURS

Check your email, he probably responded to everyone that sent him emails.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:22 pm
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the_velociraptor
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 		Give him a false address. No doubt he'll do something if we give him the actual address.

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waitress#2
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 		I don't want to give him an address. I don't think anybody deserves to have Samuel look them up right now, he would probably kill anyone that's handy at the moment. Screwy

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Chronus_Valtiel
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Location: Some house I found. The people in it are really annoying.

 		This is obviously his darker side speaking.
The evil half of Samuel obviously wants R.F.'s family dead.

I replied trying to talk some sense into him.
I know the real Samuel is there....

Also of note: He has neither confirmed or denied having called R.F.
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waitress#2
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 		Good idea Chronus! That's what I did too, just a note telling him to fight the feelings of the moment and to focus on the real enemy, the people that did this to him.

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Chronus_Valtiel
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Location: Some house I found. The people in it are really annoying.

 		Thanks Smile

Also, I suggest that you don't even give Sam a fake address.
I don't want him leaving without a word....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:49 pm
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Chronus_Valtiel
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Location: Some house I found. The people in it are really annoying.

 		Woah, there's a new poster on the latest post.

Could it be a gamejack?
Or the voice of reason we're waiting for?
Then again, this could just be another player of this bizarre game.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:13 pm
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Almijisti
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 		Another long post
I got a similar message from Sam:

Quote:
YOU WANT INFORMATION

YOU WILL GET THE NECESSARY INfORMATION FROM HIM FOR ME

I WANT YOU TO MAKE HIM TRUST YOU AND I WANT TO KNOW WHERE HIS FAMILY IS

I WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE ANSWERS IN THE WORLD IF YOU LEAD ME TO THEM


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Note the lower-case 'f' in INfORMATION; just looks like a typo for now, but that'd be odd if he had caps-lock on.


Well, it does seem as if this thing has now taken a radical turn, as predicted by many of us. We are now part of this since Sam is eliciting our aid to find RF's family, but why does he need to find them? Is he becoming a homicidal maniac, or is he trying to protect RF from them?

Sam's told us in responses that he doesn't know the woman who claims to be his girlfriend, though his messages implied that she might be the "awful woman" involved with the project. So it's possible that Sam thinks RF's wife is likewise an "awful woman". But from the police check of phone records, there was no conversation with Sam (at least the last time), which implies that Sam and RF are the same person, or perhaps someone is manipulating these phone calls (ala "A Stranger Calls"). It also suggests that RF's wife and Sam's g/f are identical.

Early on, in one of RF's posts, his wife supposedly left a note telling RF that Sam called and she specifically told RF later in a conversation that Sam was a physical therapist--RF's wife clearly knew Sam better than RF could remember him. If the note was real, and if RF and Sam are not the same person, RF's wife was, therefore, associated with the Project. If, on the other hand RF and Sam are the same person, then Sam's g/f and RF's wife are the same and she is, in fact, the "awful woman" and, again, was involved in the project--again, assuming the note was real.

In other words, Sam's right about one thing--we have to find RF's wife. Cherchez La Femme.

EDIT/ fixed ungrammatical sentence that made no sense.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:23 pm
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nolispe
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Chronus_Valtiel wrote:
Then again, this could just be another player of this bizarre game.


ding ding ding

an existing player/poster just trying an alternate approach. Don't spam my throwaway inbox with email! Very Happy

I guess I could have had a little fun with you guys but I suppose any kind of gamejacking or seeming in the know is looked down upon Sad

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waitress#2
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 		Thanks for fixing whatever that was Almijisti. I was just trying to quote it to ask you what you meant and it disappeared on me. Laughing

In his email to me he says he can see the image (I'm not sure whether to believe him or not) but it might make sense because he came in after the subject was hurt although he went to sleep like everybody else.

How could I help him get the whole video?

I wonder if I'll get a nasty email like Chronus did for patronizing him. I can't help but believe though that the real Samuel doesn't want to hurt R.F.'s family. In the phone conversation he told R.F. hide his children from him. I wonder if he thinks he is bargaining with whoever is doing this to give him his baby and wife back.

nolispe, welcome, I thought you were probably another player just trying a different approach. Smile edit - but I almost emailed you before I decided it. Laughing

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Almijisti
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nolispe wrote:
Chronus_Valtiel wrote:
Then again, this could just be another player of this bizarre game.


ding ding ding

an existing player/poster just trying an alternate approach. Don't spam my throwaway inbox with email! Very Happy


Too late. Oh well.
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nolispe
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 		That was an awfully sweet email you sent me, though, Almijisti.

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Almijisti
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nolispe wrote:
That was an awfully sweet email you sent me, though, Almijisti.


Heh; well I try to wear kid-gloves when emailing potential IG characters who have a tendency to go bonkers on us Wink
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