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deletia wrote:
I agree- the why-Hawaii question is a good one.

Why do you think a clue in the ad space is "barely possible," though? Ads are paid content. Ads have been taken out in other ARGs. Why not this one?


I was doubtful because I thought a newspaper would vet its advertisers to a greater extent...especially at the risk of somehow fooling naive non-players somehow, potentially causing some ill-will, but if other ARGs have done it, then it's certainly possible. I still don't feel like the Japan Air Lines connection is genuine, though.

So we should keep waiting til someone gets a newspaper page where we see find ad that rings some bells, I guess. I hope we will, because otherwise unless we figure out a Hawaiian connection, it almost seems as if the men behind the curtain here underestimated us!

Is that possible? Would 1-18-08's PR/ARG people really not have expected us to find out that the newspaper was from Hawaii, not japan?

Or let's look at it this way: is there any reason the movie's protagonists would have any link to Hawaii? Obviously, the fact that the newspaper comes from Hawaii points to the fact that there are Japanese interests in Hawaii (immigration/cultural exchange). Maybe the protagonist's flight to Japan was routed through Hawaii?

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 		Nobody has any idea on the DATE of these newspapers? And is everyone getting the same ones?

Too early to really tell that I guess... in two weeks, if people are still getting the same newspaper, that's cause for concern.

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Nighthawk wrote:
Nobody has any idea on the DATE of these newspapers? And is everyone getting the same ones?

Too early to really tell that I guess... in two weeks, if people are still getting the same newspaper, that's cause for concern.

Date on mine is 7/23/07.

I thought it was a clever addition. I don't think the newspaper has any clues or anything though...

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 		Yep, the dates of scanned pages look to be in the late July range.

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 		Re: something about page 21 scans
Whois info-

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Domain Information:
a. [Domain Name] JAL.CO.JP
g. [Organization] Japan Airlines International Co., Ltd.
l. [Organization Type] Company Limited
m. [Administrative Contact] YO5264JP
n. [Technical Contact] KA2978JP
p. [Name Server] ns00.vips.ne.jp
p. [Name Server] ns01.jal.co.jp
p. [Name Server] ns01.vips.ne.jp
p. [Name Server] ns02.jal.co.jp
[State] Connected (2007/08/31)
[Registered Date] 1994/08/04
[Connected Date] 1995/02/17
[Last Update] 2006/09/01 01:23:57 (JST)


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Safely out of game. Last updated almost 1 year ago.


That is the last time that the website domain record information (listed above) was updated, not the last time the website itself was updated. A large corporation like Japan airlines would be updating things like pricing every hour or even more often.

I tried to find out if there are any other websites that link to that page on the interent, it's linked from other sites in googleso I'd say I'd say it's OOG.

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deletia wrote:
I agree- the why-Hawaii question is a good one.

Why do you think a clue in the ad space is "barely possible," though? Ads are paid content. Ads have been taken out in other ARGs. Why not this one?


Why Hawaii? Because they have a free Japanese language newspaper and they wanted to use it for a packaging gag?

The ad idea I don't have a gently sardonic answer for - it's possible there's something in there.

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 		Re: something about page 21 scans
jfiscus wrote:
Whois info-
That is the last time that the website domain record information (listed above) was updated, not the last time the website itself was updated. A large corporation like Japan airlines would be updating things like pricing every hour or even more often.


I think that means the last time the domain info was updated, NOT the last time the website was updated.

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Kaliyuga wrote:
deletia wrote:
I agree- the why-Hawaii question is a good one.

Why do you think a clue in the ad space is "barely possible," though? Ads are paid content. Ads have been taken out in other ARGs. Why not this one?


Why Hawaii? Because they have a free Japanese language newspaper and they wanted to use it for a packaging gag?

The ad idea I don't have a gently sardonic answer for - it's possible there's something in there.


It's entirely possible they could run an ad, but not likely. BTW, for the Lost Experience ARG, they ran a fake Hanso ad in the Chicago Tribune, LA Times, Philadelphia DailyNews, New York, Washington, and Dallas, etc..



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 		A couple of misc. additions:

I'm staring at my shipping info - the box came from South Carolina as reported (not a fake return address). Not sure why someone would pick up a Japanese language newspaper in Hawaii to ship to SC for redistribution to Slusho customers. But I'd guess there aren't many Japanese language papers in SC, so it had to be shipped in from somewhere...

Re: how the T-shirts look/fit, yes, mine came with the "pre-cracked" vintage look, and yes, they are *slightly* smaller than typical t-shirts of the same size. I normally wear a size XL t-shirt and they're usually baggy on me - this XL is not baggy at all (I'm wearing it as I type this).
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 		Why do I feel that this is going to turn in to a twist on Halloween III, where everyone who's wearing a Slusho shirt is going to instantly turn in to a monster on 1/18/08.

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 		I'm pretty sure some of these newspapers were distributed to California as well, where a sizeable Japanese population would have demand for a Japanese language newspaper. Evidence: several newspaper scans show ads for businesses in California. I just saw a scan on page 4 of this thread with a business in Torrance. There is a Torrance in CA, so this is a plausible explanation. Maybe they just got these papers in Hollywood, CA...

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 		Seriously though... so many people are trying to figure out if the donkey's blinks are morse code or talking to the characters on myspace like they are their long lost friends or something and a million other retarded things, yet when people receive their packages from Slusho wrapped in some random Japanese newspaper with clear bold as day references to New York and Godzilla (again I'm not saying I think this is a Godzilla movie but it is going to be in the same genre) and they dismiss it right away as being "coincidence" or "not worth looking into". It just boggles my mind. Christ, some of you are even dialing random phone numbers. TRANSLATE THE GODDAMN WRITING ON THE NEWSPAPER PEOPLE!!!

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GrOwLeR wrote:
Seriously though... so many people are trying to figure out if the donkey's blinks are morse code or talking to the characters on myspace like they are their long lost friends or something and a million other retarded things, yet when people receive their packages from Slusho wrapped in some random Japanese newspaper with clear bold as day references to New York and Godzilla (again I'm not saying I think this is a Godzilla movie but it is going to be in the same genre) and they dismiss it right away as being "coincidence" or "not worth looking into". It just boggles my mind. Christ, some of you are even dialing random phone numbers. TRANSLATE THE GODDAMN WRITING ON THE NEWSPAPER PEOPLE!!!

I'm sure the entire plot, cast list, and a list of stores where you can purchase DVD's of the movie is printed on page 1 in kanji.

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GrOwLeR wrote:
Seriously though... so many people are trying to figure out if the donkey's blinks are morse code or talking to the characters on myspace like they are their long lost friends or something and a million other retarded things, yet when people receive their packages from Slusho wrapped in some random Japanese newspaper with clear bold as day references to New York and Godzilla (again I'm not saying I think this is a Godzilla movie but it is going to be in the same genre) and they dismiss it right away as being "coincidence" or "not worth looking into". It just boggles my mind. Christ, some of you are even dialing random phone numbers. TRANSLATE THE GODDAMN WRITING ON THE NEWSPAPER PEOPLE!!!


Boy, you sound like an ass. The newspaper's a real newspaper with real stories. You want to read about the Japanese ballplayer's great season? Be my guest.

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 		Ah Hum
DISCLAIMER: (<---emphasis, not yelling) SCUSEMOI PRETTY PLEASE.

I just wanna clarify for the official record for those of you who have possibly misunderstood my particular "thing" about the JAL website. Initially, yes, I wondered if this was a real site, never heard of it before and it's in Japanese or whatever laanguage it is. I did the whois myself and it didn't result for me but I did search and got the other domain options and they all resolved to the main site. I got it this is an OOG site. And yes, for you who brought it up, I did post these links in the is this site related stickie thing.

Once it was cleared up, that did not excuse the actual thing I noticed and a few others are recognizing and that is the specific url shown in the ad in the paper scan from the cloverfieldclues site (which rules majorly well, thanks soooo much for the thorough collecting of info) (and the avatar) (I'm not hotlinking btw ;-p) -----> recognizing the specific url in the ad has the japanese url and then the /happiness.

I, like a few others, or however many others, picked up on the obvious association to Slusho Happy thing....which is the email page for Satoshi. Then I went to that actual page and while I have no clue what any of it says, no matter how "realistic" it might be with content, immediately I see the little cutsey animal link. I went there and there's the page with the other cutsey animals like the slusho animals.

Only it may as well be Japanese to me, I have no idea what it says. Neither does anyone else apparently.

It is certainly no coincidence here that spawning directly from the fully American mystery trailer that had heavy Asian elements in decor, and guests for that matter, and where the main dude is about to go to long enough it justified a surprise going away party, the tshirt <---- the tshirt logo leads to the slusho site that is in english and Japanese or whatever it's called. Early on we got someone to translate the links and then so much for that. The whole site has a strong focus on Japan and presents english as "engrish" basically. (While 1-18 remains cryptically American).

Next tshirts come available...and they're being shipped with predominantly the same copies of the same newspaper from Japan that's actually Hawaii, that's now apparently nodding to Lost. And since we're peeking behind the curtain again, JJ at comicon clearly stated this whole idea was inspired on his trip to Japan to have an American monster that isn't Godzilla or whatever the other one he said, King Kong. But look again....Japan v American duo. So he went to Japan and digs it. No sweat.

But what is its relevance for our purposes? We're being primed with the Japanese kiss here. We've got an American trailer with a point blank clue in the Japan connection. We got an American guy wearing the tshirt for a Japanese product, which leads to the Japan/English website. We get shirts (well all of you cool people do...) from a Japanese company that's sporting an American website....shipped with Japanese newspapers....from Hawaii. I think this goes just a tad beyond simply being consistent so Rob can go to Japan - considering Rob apparently never leaves the country...so that cannot be the actual connection we're supposed to make. It's like those exclamation marks and what I mentioned regarding those, like the content of the history page (a Japanese story in engrish) is jumping up and down going HEYYYY! LOOK HERE!!! PSST!! PAY ATTENTION!!! HERE YA GO and it's being ignored because of the presumption this is all them not being ready for us or it's nothing but viral marketing (however agreed on this specific point on the tshirts, nailed it) so there's no real relevant usefulness in and of itself to ship the shirts with newspapers, real or faked, that cost money or the actual effort of making them all the top pages or the bottom pages or specific pages.... They aren't gift wrap...they've been deliberately included. With all the Japanese elements, some have said "gag gift"...

So okay, it's a nod from camp Abrams letting us know they're behind it. Well we knew that already with the trailer. They have no need at this late date to keep "nodding" at us with irrelevant fluff. It's already created its own momentum with all the various stuff popping up regarding it - we're past the part, especially with tshirts in hand, of needing to be encouraged to hang in there. I mean come on you guys...we've got the thread of doom of nothing really useful but socializing and it's well beyond 300 pages. I think we're on board and they know it.

To you guys who are so sure they're not ready yet, I guess I'm asking how you conclude this as the likely fact either way and then when do you know they'll be ready? What criteria are you looking for that is the proverbial starting gun shot? Is there a set number of PM "nods" we have to wait for to "go"? What they've already presented us has taken some effort and it was waiting on us, we're engaging these characters to some degree....but if they're experienced enough with TLE and S7, and they've got a ready audience, which do you think is their better option: keep baiting us with irrelevant gags and talking books with Lil for another 6 months and seriously thinking anybody's gonna be here in 6 months....or feed your market and bust out with it. Both sites didn't do much of anything until the EH needed to be handled and from that resolutions both sites have begun providing the content pretty steadily (it's just over one month and we're here), including real 'swag' I guess ya call it.

The are giving us stuff...they've been doing it all along. And each time something is presented it's kicked around for a bit ad then disregarded in favor of "who's the monster" and the poster art and what's up with the BTS filming....ignoring both sites. I do get it that we are LOST as to what to do but aside from the distraction itself, I'm getting the impression that as a group at all, it's the assumption they're not even ready so this is all PM nods and gag gifts and bait that is preventing any discovery, let alone solutions and movement. None of us knows they're not ready or when they'd be ready if they weren't....it's an assumption. But it seems to be one that's having a negative effect of stonewalling instead of overcoming and finding out. Makes me frustrated because I've not got the professional UFer midas touch to solve anything when I'm not entirely sure what to do either way and looking to the experienced to do what you guys do better than the government so we can gasp and awe and gush...and learn and play and participate and help.

/this was not a rant. It was more like pleading to reconsider this assumption they are not ready when it really does look like we aren't ready. If I'm wrong, so be it. But if I'm not wrong we're wasting their time. Sad They're clever but they're not Einstein here. But then again, if they've stumped UFers I'm duly impressed Razz Gets the inexperienced nowhere though.


Think of the other stuff they've done....does any of this fit their MO specifically? Not so much copying for here, but the same procedure, or the same sort of trail or hint, etc.

And don't flame and wig out. I'm being serious. Just frustrated and feel a little useless....

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