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[SPEC] Why a Cuckoo Clock sound in trailer?
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dbssound
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sorry to loose you

on which part? btw the smiley thing just appeared.

I'll try again.

The first poster heard a sound effect that their mental library of sounds interpreted as a cuckoo clock. Then after posting, others heard it too, not because it was there, but because their minds were trying to match the generated sound effects (sfx) with something familiar that they have heard before.

If you didn't get my 23 reference rent the number 23, it's pretty good.


Regardless if you get my analogies or not, the point is there are no hidden cluse in the audio track for this trailer (unless it is a lyrical reference in one of the songs or something someone says).

hope that is clearer. let me know if I can explain it any better.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:33 pm
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thx still a little Confused but i got about the sound i can compare it to a carlos mencia joke."when the stupid person in the fast food place burns the fries its because he confuses the ding of the ready bell for the door bell"
got it Smile

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dbssound
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sounds right

Sometimes I confuse myself after reading back. You get what I'm saying though. Ding Ding!!

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Helo
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Re: You are looking too hard

dbssound wrote:
I am a sound engineer, and I can tell you 100% there is no cuckoo. You are imposing sound pshycoacoustically over some very layered sfx engineering.
It's like the number 23, you can impose that number on almost everything (except 1-18-0Cool if you want it to be there.

I want the clues as bad as you all do, but I will assure you, they are not in the audio.

you should give up the ghost on this one.


Finally, someone who agrees with me!
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Re: sorry to loose you

dbssound wrote:
on which part? btw the smiley thing just appeared.

I'll try again.

The first poster heard a sound effect that their mental library of sounds interpreted as a cuckoo clock. Then after posting, others heard it too, not because it was there, but because their minds were trying to match the generated sound effects (sfx) with something familiar that they have heard before.

If you didn't get my 23 reference rent the number 23, it's pretty good.


Regardless if you get my analogies or not, the point is there are no hidden cluse in the audio track for this trailer (unless it is a lyrical reference in one of the songs or something someone says).

hope that is clearer. let me know if I can explain it any better.


Ok, believe it or not, I understand you perfectly on this.

But...

...this morning I said to my teenage son, "I want you to listen to something." I didn't tell him what and then I started the trailer from the beginning. When i got to that part I began to loop it. On the third loop he heard it and laughed.

How does that fit in with your theory?
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thank you dbssound, you put it in words I apparently failed to do sufficiently as well Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:31 am
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One Coo!
:)

I do not hear "coo coo." I hear distinctively hear just one "coo."

But then does it matter? We sure are reaching.

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thebruce wrote:
thank you dbssound, you put it in words I apparently failed to do sufficiently as well Razz


Don't worry, I had that problem as well.
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its probably a sound effect from the Slusho site...

or just a major clue that tells us the movie is essentially someones dream or cuckoo aliens have left their egg to mother Liberty...you know, like most movies use dreams or aliens as thier final big suprise.

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I had a friend in Germany watch the trailer. He knows NOTHING about this, didn't even know what it was until I told him after. He watched it, and after watching it ONCE he asked me if I knew why there was a cuckoo clock sound as the head hit the building. The noise is there!
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I watche it assuming it WOULDN'T be there (so many red herrings so far) and still heard it. That, coupled with the fact that i was expecting it to be after the SoL head hit (read it wrong the first time) and i STILL heard it, lead me to believe that there is in fact a sound there.
That being said, i still don't believe that the sound is some huge clue that we have been oblivious to until now.

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I do not want that sound to be there. I think it's ridiculous, out of place, and a sign that someone, somewhere is laughing at us.

Unless it works out to mean something, which I doubt it will, it kind of ruins--or, well, at least tarnishes--my cloverfield experience. So, in terms of hearing something you want to hear? Not so much with me.

But I did hear it, clear as a bell.

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to be clear - no one's saying the sound isn't there. Just that it's likely not a cuckoo clock, and likely not a clue to anything else.
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Hmm... maybe Jay-Jay puts that cuckoo thing as an easter egg, or maybe an accidental mix-up in the Sound Department?

If it's an egg, maybe sorta like how THX comes up in Luca's films hidden.

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dbssound
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I will try 1 more time.

I am not stating that anyone has a desire for there to be a cuckoo sound causing you to hear it (as the previous poster stated), or stating that you do not hear anything. I will tell you that the other people at my studio have heard the sound as well. They, however, just like me agree that it is in no way intended to be a Cuckoo clock sound.

You have chaos and pandimonium and the SOL head flying right at the camera. The SFX guys are trying to represent the sounds of the bending metal and the head, having just hit the building (which is steel framed) and pulling away from the building. Anyone who has ever worked with metal will tell you the bending it under extreme force, or metal scraping across another piece of metal can cause sounds just like that.

I will say that as many movies I think the SFX engineer puts certain effects to high into the mix. This is a perfect example. Tat is not a slight to the engineer, as I can distinguish at least 24 channels of audio and effects whizzing by you at any given time. It is just my opinion on why this anomaly has spawned this thread.

Another theory is a coupling theory where multiple effects and the processors that are being used cause audible anomalies. I, and many other engineers, have had this happen in digital post production. It's a truly bizarre trick your mind plays on you by frequencies of multiple tracks combining at a particualr moment and amplitude that end up creating a completely new and unexpected sound.

You can take that for what it is worth, and continue the quest for the "cuckoo" link if you want. The best thing that will happen is that you'll find out your are right and you can tell me "I told you so", and the worst is you'll get a biology lesson on cuckoos and a history lesson on the cuckoo clock.

Happy Hunting.

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