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[SPEC] Trailer:map - A party; Manhattan goes up in flames
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Nitsujest
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Re: Pet Frames

Deren-kun wrote:
Mine would have to be Jason cause boy I love the shirt Laughing

And that picture with the guy and the weird face is pretty strange too. Especially seeing as how the only accepted faces are the "WTH" face, "OMG RUN" face and the "OMG lion, get in the car!" face.
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sam.weir wrote:
"Concerning the possible complexity of the movie itself, I'm not sure why you'd expect JJ Abrams to be involved in an uncomplicated, straightforward monster-go-smash movie. Not all monster-movies are created equal. "

the only reason i say this is because the only real piece of info about the film we received from him at the comic con was that in the coming months we'll be receving a REAL poster, a title, a REAL trailer. that, to me, sounds like the death of our little ARG i'm afraid. then it will just be another advertised film. nothing to figure out at all until you see the movie.


we should agree that there WAS a game the disagreement is if there is still a game in play right now. between the showing of the trailer and comicon loads of clues in the trailer which we found 1 18 08.com and slusho.jp but after comicon no clues at all just the update of the slusho which lead to even more questions than before comicon. so after jj rounds up all of this popularity he can sit on the viral marketing because it worked!
here we are talking about his movie by trying to find more info about it so he doesnt have to work at all for a while until we either we get tired and shows that his fans need more fuel to keep them running or he gets to a certain benchmark (like 3 months before priemer) and gives us another clue either way looks like we have to wait for a while

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i think the new jersey connection is better. Rob Hawkins himself said he ate at a pizza place in hoboken, were the red marks are on the map. but maybe the map is just to tell us that the party is in manhatten? either way they wouldn't have put it on the set unless it had some sort of significance, just ask a hollywood set disigner. they have a purpose behind every little detail. From the color of the fridge to the paint on the walls to the hats hangging up. it all means something to the overall story.

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Re: [SPEC] Trailer:map - A party; Manhattan goes up in flame
The question we've been waiting for?

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The more I look at the map section, the less I'm convinced actually.

I think you're right, Anteros, it looks like Lower Manhattan, like this:

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That's it exactly. That's what I'm seeing. Nice pic.
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Manhattan on the right...

There's no reason for a close up of lower manhattan.
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SLUSHO_ZOOM:
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No one ever commented on my posting of the guy with the weird mouth/teeth.


What's weird about his face, other than the blur from the camera movement? I'm not seeing it. ??

And, when/where is this snapshot taken from?

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At first, I thought that the map on the left looked like the zoomed-in map of lower Manhattan, but isn't there a waterway of some kind in the middle to top part of that left map? A snaky river..? If I'm seeing that right, then it can't be a zoomed in map of lower Manhattan.

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Jesus come on people. That is a map of Manhattan(on the right side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan) and northern New Jersey(on the left side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey). The river in the middle is called the Hudson river(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_River). Just go to google maps or google earth to see. The statue of liberty(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty) is in the middle between New York and Jersey.

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FromTheDeep wrote:
Jesus come on people. That is a map of Manhattan(on the right side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan) and northern New Jersey(on the left side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey). The river in the middle is called the Hudson river(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_River). Just go to google maps or google earth to see. The statue of liberty(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty) is in the middle between New York and Jersey.


The river in the middle... of what? In the middle of the poster? There's no river there. Wha..?

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Just an idea I had: what about if someone who's been in interaction with the slusho seven - mainly someone who asked for tips about moving to NY - ask them for a map or something, for guidance? Could any of them send them a copy of the map in the trailer? That's far fetched, but if so, that would be a clue for sure.

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so my idea is that the marked positions have to do with ferry terminals to Manhattan

http://www.panynj.gov/CommutingTravel/ferry/html/

I think the bit in the middle that is confusing everyone is some kind of index the kind that you have when you open a roadmap all the way.
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FromTheDeep wrote:
but maybe the map is just to tell us that the party is in manhatten?


That seems rather OTT considering the other shots seen in the trailer, it'd be a safe bet that the story would be set in Manhattan.

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either way they wouldn't have put it on the set unless it had some sort of significance


Is it not possible it's simply there as set dressing? Joey's apartment in Friends had a map of Manhattan on the wall (I have the same make of map on my wall) and it wasn't all that significant.

It's assumed that the map has significance to the plot, but it hasn't been proven to have significance, either yet or at all.

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just ask a hollywood set disigner. they have a purpose behind every little detail. From the color of the fridge to the paint on the walls to the hats hangging up. it all means something to the overall story.


What? No it doesn't! Not everything has to have significance to the story, such is the purpose of 'set dressing'. A lot of the stuff is there for the sole reason of presenting us with what we consider a realistic idea of a particular location, in this case an apartment in Manhattan.

SLUSHO_ZOOM! wrote:
There's no reason for a close up of lower manhattan.


Actually, from my experience there appears to be a need, over the years I've collected a number of guides from different sources that not only depict the whole island but also depict the southern tip. The whole island is usually covered for both the major tourist sites and Subway/bus lines whilst the southern tip deals with more exact detail, such as ground zero, Trinity Church, The Stock Exchange, City Hall et cetera. There's a lot of stuff down there that you couldn't really included on the 'whole island' map without it getting terribly cluttered.

FromTheDeep wrote:
Jesus come on people. That is a map of Manhattan(on the right side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan) and northern New Jersey(on the left side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey). The river in the middle is called the Hudson river(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_River). Just go to google maps or google earth to see. The statue of liberty(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty) is in the middle between New York and Jersey.


Okay, let me ask you this: Why would it have New Jersey on it? Have you seen a New York tourist/transit map that also depicts New Jersey in detail like that?

Are you just assuming that's New Jersey because that section happens to be on the western side of the map, and that Jersey happens to lie to the west of Manhattan? If so, that's a pretty week assumption to make.

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A couple folks seem to think that the left side of the map represents the Jersey coast across from Lower Manhattan. That was my original thought, although I'm no longer totally convinced. If that's the case, though, wouldn't those red markings be near the emergence of the monster (or at least near it's attack on the SoL)? And further, wouldn't that be rather conspicuous? I understand that a set director is going to let a few details slip by unnoticed, but a map with markings like that seems like a big slip.

kingpin wrote:
It's assumed that the map has significance to the plot, but it hasn't been proven to have significance, either yet or at all.


No, it hasn't been proven. It's speculation. For the sake of clarity, though, let's call it a hypothesis: an assumption made for the sake of argument. We have this hypothesis about an anomoly in the trailer--a map with some odd markings on it. The hypothesis is that the map has some significance in the Cloverfield AR thingy, and the only way to test that out is to, well, test it out. To discuss it. To take some kind of action. That's why I started this thread--to open a discussion--not because I thought my hypothesis was unassailable.

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DUDE. He has something in his mouth.

If you look at the trailer frame by frame at about the 1:30 mark you can see it's not just a blur.

He has something white in his mouth.

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deletia wrote:
A couple folks seem to think that the left side of the map represents the Jersey coast across from Lower Manhattan. That was my original thought, although I'm no longer totally convinced. If that's the case, though, wouldn't those red markings be near the emergence of the monster (or at least near it's attack on the SoL)? And further, wouldn't that be rather conspicuous? I understand that a set director is going to let a few details slip by unnoticed, but a map with markings like that seems like a big slip.

kingpin wrote:
It's assumed that the map has significance to the plot, but it hasn't been proven to have significance, either yet or at all.


No, it hasn't been proven. It's speculation. For the sake of clarity, though, let's call it a hypothesis: an assumption made for the sake of argument. We have this hypothesis about an anomoly in the trailer--a map with some odd markings on it. The hypothesis is that the map has some significance in the Cloverfield AR thingy, and the only way to test that out is to, well, test it out. To discuss it. To take some kind of action. That's why I started this thread--to open a discussion--not because I thought my hypothesis was unassailable.


Don't worry, I wasn't really having a go at you... I'd just like to know FromTheDeep's reasoning as to why that section of the map is New Jersey... when the detail is pretty terrible.

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