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[Meta]YOU are not important!
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KrazyKacy
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[Meta]YOU are not important!

I have seen several people in several different threads say that J.J.Abrams has his people scrolling the unfiction forum and doing the following:
-Tracking our progress
-Reading our info for a backstory

Guess what guys, unfiction is NOT that important! Sorry to tell you, but the only way to find this site is through other people, you can't even find it by googling "1-18-08", as it is cluttered with all kinds of blog sites. Here is the debunk of both statements above.

Tracking our progress
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A LOT of you are saying that J.J.Abrams is tracking this forums progress, why? Because he said in an interview that we found no other sites but 1-18-08, guess what guys? He doesn't need to search these forums to know what we found..websites have these things called CONTROL PANELS, and these control panels hold information about hit counts(how many people visit the site on any day). If the number is higher then the ammount that the creator visited the site that day, then somebody has found it! It's that easy!

Reading our info in a backstory
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I already sort of explained this, it's simple, really. How do i know he isn't using us for a backstory? Because;

A:
The movie studio has MONEY, although this budget may be smaller than most movies, they have PLENTY to pay a writer to come up with his own information/script.
B:
Again, there is almost no chance he could even find this forum! Google 1-18-08 and see what i mean. And it's VERY unlikely some guy walked up to him and went "go check out this forum for a awesome backstory". On top of all of this, IT IS PLAGURISM.
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This post was not meant to be offensive/aggresive, but to bring you to your sences, unfiction is a great forum..but come on guys, you just don't matter to the big time industries. The only thing we are good for, is solving the ARG, if there is even a ARG to be solved.

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DaMirrorLink
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actually im pretty sure that there are 1-18-08 people that come here to check and make sure no leaked info is on it, so go away troll

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:06 am
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Anteros
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Almost every single Cloverfield related site I visit and every Cloverfield blog I read has Unfiction plastered all over it.

I found this site more than a month ago without looking for it and I never had heard of it.

Now, the Cloverfield bloggers have spread it far and wide which, I presume, makes it even easier to find.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:13 am
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Hmm I could see them looking at websites, such as Cloverfieldnews.com but not forums (I understand there is a link to the forum on ther) But they wouldnt waste their time going threw posts. They dont care that much.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:24 am
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If they can pay a staff of interns to answer myspace messages, they can certainly pay someone to sit down for a few hours, read through various threads on various forums, and write up a summary of the theories, moods, etc. of people actively 'playing' the game. Any good marketing firm (or ARG PM) wants/needs that kind of 'feedback.'

So, it's not a stretch (at all) to suppose that someone on the 'inside' is privy to what's been put forward on this forum, and others (but this is one of the bigger ones, so if any, definitely this one). So, KrazyKacy, calm down. And, think before you rant. Wink

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:53 am
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If you think JJ isn't browsing these forums all the time you are trully crazy. Here is the proof:

JJ Abrams myspace page:
http://www.myspace.com/abrams163

quote from his blog:

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Sunday, July 15, 2007

Unfiction
Current mood: busy
Category: Games

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/index.php?f=140



I think if this myspace profile is really him then he himself is updating and reading all 7 myspace profiles himself. I had a feeling he was doing that anyway but this might prove it. Only if that is his real myspace profile.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:41 am
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dtweedokay
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FromTheDeep wrote:
If you think JJ isn't browsing these forums all the time you are trully crazy. Here is the proof:

JJ Abrams myspace page:
http://www.myspace.com/abrams163

quote from his blog:

Quote:
Sunday, July 15, 2007

Unfiction
Current mood: busy
Category: Games

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/index.php?f=140



I think if this myspace profile is really him then he himself is updating and reading all 7 myspace profiles himself. I had a feeling he was doing that anyway but this might prove it. Only if that is his real myspace profile.


... but i'm pretty sure it's not because my instincts tell me J.J. Abrams would not refer to this movie as "This cloverfield thing 1-18-08"

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I don't think that is JJ Abrams' MySpace. I get the feeling it was created around the same time the first trailer appeared. It doesn't give off any vibe other than a dedicated fan site (everything posted on there is pubic knowledge about JJ). The blog starts on 7-12-07. The video of the little boy comes from a completely unrelated (and NOT JJ) YT account that includes a comment pushing subject137.com (another alternate reality something or other).

I grew up around "the business" out in Southern California. Even before the internet these folks had very little "office" time available. The entertainment business is very crowded when you are making movies/tv shows (and he's doing more than one).

JJ Abrams doesn't have time to be "running" this promotional campaign himself. He has a staff/marketing company that is doing it.

He's a producer and a director and a writer, not a web designer.
He might push the ideas, the storyboard, even some script points. He might even read a few items here and there (links sent to him by some production assistant), but think about all the time YOU dedicate to surfing the web. He doesn't have that sort of time. He may or may not be aware of this site (unFiction). But since the 1-18-08 promotional campaign seems to be more about establishing the characters as real people with real lives before the movie hits the theaters, I'm sure their backgrounds and relationships are already written out. Marketing staffers who watch the internet buzz are more likely to just get entertainment value at all the wild spec in here than cull uF for story ideas.

I have found some of the spec about the monster, the fan-made movie posters and trailers that have popped up to be entertaining, so maybe the producers of the 1-18-08.com campaign have also.
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Where are the links of people claiming that unfiction is important to anything other facilitating this game for the players? I doubt that those claims come from anyone who is running this site.

See my belief is that the opposite of the subject line you chose is true-- maybe you should have said "unfiction doesn't matter"-- each and every person who plays a game on this site is important. So, you do matter.

At any rate, to stay on topic, perhaps no one at 1-18-08 knows or cares about unfiction. I'm ok with that. It's their loss. Smile

For the record, I will point out that the New York Magazine blog Vulture about this movie mentions oh-so-lovingly "the internet nerds" on Unfiction. And linked to the forums... (Will they ever wake up to what is happening in the entertainment world before it overtakes them?)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:37 am
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well of most sites visited unfiction was the one i turn to because it disproves most fake theories with evidence ,so even if they dont look at unfiction it is their loss
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:21 pm
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rose wrote:
For the record, I will point out that the New York Magazine blog Vulture about this movie mentions oh-so-lovingly "the internet nerds" on Unfiction. And linked to the forums... (Will they ever wake up to what is happening in the entertainment world before it overtakes them?)


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You sound so angry. I dunno, if I was him, I wouldn't need to track progress, but like others said, unfiction is pretty famously cloverfield central, so I'd definely look a few time to see what people say about my project.

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I don't think our actions are driving the plot of the movie. But at the same time I do believe that someone is paid to read the information comming out about it. You don't create buzz and then not pay attention to it. It would be horrible marketing. How would you judge the effectiveness of the campaign?

I googled 1-18-08 and unfiction is on page 2, about the 8th link down.

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You don't create buzz and then not pay attention to it. It would be horrible marketing. How would you judge the effectiveness of the campaign?


I'm new to this whole ARGiverse, but I'm not very new to marketing--it's been my job for the last few years. I've got to say that I absolutely agree with TVRotBrain from a marketing standpoint.

Perhaps unFiction is not as central to the world of ARG players as it seems to be, and perhaps there is a better place to gauge player response. However, I am fairly certain that the marketing agency in charge of Cloverfield is pretty interested in recognizing the return on their investment. This is what they do professionally, you know? It's not like they're not interested in how well they're doing it. No one would hire them if that were the case.

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what the guy with the pig picture said

deletia wrote:
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You don't create buzz and then not pay attention to it. It would be horrible marketing. How would you judge the effectiveness of the campaign?


I'm new to this whole ARGiverse, but I'm not very new to marketing--it's been my job for the last few years. I've got to say that I absolutely agree with TVRotBrain from a marketing standpoint.

Perhaps unFiction is not as central to the world of ARG players as it seems to be, and perhaps there is a better place to gauge player response. However, I am fairly certain that the marketing agency in charge of Cloverfield is pretty interested in recognizing the return on their investment. This is what they do professionally, you know? It's not like they're not interested in how well they're doing it. No one would hire them if that were the case.


Yes, we have to be important. No, we will drive the plot in a certain direction, but yes they will be keeping an eye on us to see how well they are doing. this is an experiment in my eyes if all goes well with this film, and this technique, than in the next few years, i wouldnt be suprised to see more of this marketing strategy

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