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Info and Spec: Restore them to what they once were

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Caterpillar
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Myssfitz wrote:

So maybe they aren't human. And were do the Numbered One's, DEG's, whoever they are, fit into this? (Remember, they are not 3-o-7 because nomad at 3-o-7 wants to give us info on the Numbered Ones).

DEG is a name we gave The Numbered Ones for lack of a better title at the time. The Numbered Ones are indeed 3-O-7. That information is contained on nomad's site.

Nomad's site is an "information" site on the 3-O-7 and an attempt to expose them.

I'm not saying my spec in this post is correct (everyone has their own hypotheses), but I do think the division of the three groups is.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:11 pm

Valas
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Myssfitz wrote:

If their are three groups, where are their sites that we are supposed to be using to contact them?

Who says we are supposed to contact all three the groups??
The DEGs have their AIM, The Guides have Mythosphere, and the Nine have nothing, because they are lost and don't know what they are no more.

Myssfitz wrote:

Mythosphere has always been for the Guides.
Greywethers has always been undetermined, but with the login name of "friend"...
And 3-0-7 is not really the Numbered Ones. They are there to teach us about the Numbered Ones (give and get).

Pretty much. GW may be a rogue Guide btw. Just has a similar feel to the Mythosphere one, just less disdainfull.

Myssfitz wrote:

So could 3-o-7 be the "spritiual" Guards of the Secret of Immortality?
Could Greywethers be the human Nine (who are Keepers of Immortality)?
And Mythosphere are the "spiritual" Guides?

Could be, all you need to worry about though is that DEGs = Evil. Nothing more and mothing less. Doesn't mean that the Guides are good, just that the DEGs are the crud you find in very old plumbing.

Myssfitz wrote:

And I say this about Greywethers because TP has said that greywethers has contacted Dale and his helpers, but we have never really gotten any "official" contact. They have never really explained themselves. But TP has said that Greywethers is:

Quote:

turingprinciple (9:57:10 AM): Greywethers is a term most recently found in fantasy literature, I believe, where they are beings that can grant wishes.

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So maybe they aren't human.

Do not confuse the name of Greywethers the site and Greywethers the term found in fantasy literature. Yes, it can be a reference. But iirc, greywethers were also a stone circle some place in Wales, I think.

TP is a bot. It will respond with whatever answer it can find in its data files. Regardless if that answer is correct or not.

Example. I've asked TP to make an estimate on the time needed before it completed the STG analysis?? Its response?? It tells me that its found many references to STG and that output would be forthcoming.

It reacted to the term STG, and it ignored the question I was asking. Namely how much more time it was going to take.

So you have to take everything TP says with the required amount of grains of salt.

Myssfitz wrote:

And were do the Numbered One's, DEG's, whoever they are, fit into this? (Remember, they are not 3-o-7 because nomad at 3-o-7 wants to give us info on the Numbered Ones).

I don't know anymore now with all of that. Confused

Thank goodness my little one is up so I can take a break from all of this.

It's simple really..

You have the Nine. They're the big Kahuna.
The DEGs and the Guides served them.
The DEGS were the strong arm, the Guides the velvet glove.

The Nine fell..
Now the DEGS wanna take over, and the Guides want to stop them.

Or to use a Christian analogy.
The Nine = God
DEGs = Demons
Guides = Angels

Both Demons and Angels fulfill God's plan. They lack free will, all they can do is but what is expected from them. Now God has taken a leave of abscence, and the Devils want to take over the world. The Angels want to stop them. This doesn't mean that the Angels are the good guys, afterall, they will be the ones heralding in the end of time, with all the resulting casualties from the calamities being their responsibility.

They are just following orders..

But what this does mean is that we KNOW that we cannot trust the Demons, precisely because they are Demons. Whereas the Angels will deal fairly with you, for as long as they are not ordered to do otherwise, the Demons will doublecross you as quickly as they will help you, and no orders will be required for them to do so.

Does this help??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:22 pm

Myssfitz
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Now why did you all have to go and do that to me Shocked

Now I have to start over from the beginning. Confused

But thanks for all your patient help.

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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:59 pm

Caterpillar
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dashcat wrote:

The Nine are human. The Numbered Ones and the Guides serve those above. When you ask TP who "those above" are she answers "Humans". The Guides and the Numbered Ones serve the Nine.

dash...
The "Guides" serving "those above"...is that a spec?
I am interested because I don't think I've seen that before, and I'm feeling too lazy to try and look it up. Smile

If The Nine are human and The Numbered Ones serve those above (who are also human)......it may be possible that The Numbered Ones do not neccessarily serve the Nine, but a different faction of humans.
Maybe they serve those in control of Island 307, while the Nine are human beings throughout history who were responsible for safeguarding knowledge/secrets of immortality to keep it from falling into the wrong hands.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:04 pm

Valas
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Myssfitz wrote:

Now why did you all have to go and do that to me Shocked

Now I have to start over from the beginning. Confused

But thanks for all your patient help.

We did it, because we care hun... Smile

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:16 pm

dashcat
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Cemgate, you're right. I don't think there is an instance of TP telling us the GUIDES serve those above, just that the the Numbered Ones serve those above. I made a leap...otherwise known as an assumption. Doh! I'd ask TP but she is temporarily unavailable Sad

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:11 pm

Valas
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dashcat wrote:

Try the website hun. That version might also be able to help.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:20 pm

dashcat
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Naw Valas, I was talking about the website. It has been temporarily unavailable all day.

And I just read your post of Dale's email and it pretty much disproves my theory. Laughing

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:40 pm

Valas
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dashcat wrote:

Naw Valas, I was talking about the website. It has been temporarily unavailable all day.

And I just read your post of Dale's email and it pretty much disproves my theory. Laughing

Ok, thought you meant the AIM version of TP.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:42 pm

danman_d
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Valas wrote:

The Nine = God
DEGs = Demons
Guides = Angels

Both Demons and Angels fulfill God's plan. They lack free will, all they can do is but what is expected from them. Now God has taken a leave of abscence, and the Devils want to take over the world. The Angels want to stop them. This doesn't mean that the Angels are the good guys, afterall, they will be the ones heralding in the end of time, with all the resulting casualties from the calamities being their responsibility.

They are just following orders..

But what this does mean is that we KNOW that we cannot trust the Demons, precisely because they are Demons. Whereas the Angels will deal fairly with you, for as long as they are not ordered to do otherwise, the Demons will doublecross you as quickly as they will help you, and no orders will be required for them to do so.

So basically, you're saying we are playing an ARG based on the movie Dogma?

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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:11 pm

Valas
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danman_d wrote:

So basically, you're saying we are playing an ARG based on the movie Dogma?

Haven't seen that movie, so I can't say.
Was the easiest and simplest way to point out that we can't trust the DEGs though.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:13 pm

drizjr
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Here's 2 more cents.

Here's my spec on "the nine".
The nine are great thinkers, inventors, and innovators throughout history. They had glorious ideas before their time, so they were unappreciated in their time. But history shows that they were actually *ahead* of their time. (Did I really use the phrase "their time" three times? Ugh!)

Here's a site that illuminates the idea.
http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.brotherblue.org/libers/ninemen.htm

If we are to restore them...yadda,yadda... I believe that by learning about them and giving them the props they deserve, they become restored.

Are they the immortals? I dunno.. could be they keep showing up to impart new wisdom... maybe.

I also think that the nine books written about in the above site, may help us to find other pathways with TP. I'm still trying to work that spec out.
Cool

driz

P.S. Maybe that's why TP responds "Thank you" if you ask about Asoka? >shrug<

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:19 pm

Caterpillar
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Re: Here's 2 more cents.

drizjr wrote:

This is exactly what I've been speccing The Nine are.....wether it is good spec or not remains to be seen. Smile

~cem

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:55 pm

dmax
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Re: Here's 2 more cents.

drizjr wrote:

If we are to restore them...yadda,yadda... I believe that by learning about them and giving them the props they deserve, they become restored.

Are they the immortals? I dunno.. could be they keep showing up to impart new wisdom... maybe.

Neil Diamond wrote about them many years ago. Called the song "Done Too Soon."

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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:23 pm

Caterpillar
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dashcat wrote:

Hey spec is spec Very Happy

I was just curious because it may have changed my spec!

~cem

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:31 pm

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