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[SPEC] Alleged Insider Post on IMDB
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[SPEC] Alleged Insider Post on IMDB

This was posted on IMDB last night and has subsequently created lots of controversy. Has anyone seen this yet? If this has already been posted, I apologize in advance.

by jdz33 8 hours ago (Tue Sep 4 2007 20:40:22)
UPDATED Wed Sep 5 2007 00:24:37

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So before I go any further... If you don't want to know the details of the movie.. than don't read after this point.. I won't give away everything.. but just certain things we've all been wondering. IT IS LONG AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE AS MUCH INFO AS I CAN....

So.. basically I came across this board and found a lot of interesting theories and many ridiculous ones as well.. I myself became a a fan of the trailer and (like many of you) have been trying to find out what this movie is about.

As a member of the entertainment industry.. I was finally able to crack someone (a friend I trust) inside into giving me atleast some details...(No, it's not J.J or Reeves or someone big.. but he/she does work and has been on set of the movie... And since he/she, like anyone working on the movie, are on a strict gag order, I figure I will post this as my own "THEORY" in order to protect him/her. So this is my "THEORY"

So basically the trailer created a phenomenon that J.J and the producers never thought it would. After the buzz from the media and internet about the mysterious trailer, J.j saw this as a great marketing ploy to create even more buzz over this small little film. Yes! this movie was originally intended to just be a nice cult classic that monster movie lovers would like. This is, in fact, your basic monster movie with an american touch. It is no secret that J.J is a fan of monster movies and wanted to make america have it's own monster... There is a problem though....

THE MONSTER:

The monster is not American at all.... The monster did go through its infancy and grew up under the Atlantic, but its origin, like Godzilla, came from Japan. This is where the Slusho reference comes from. Slusho does have a part in the movie, but is not as significant as people would think. It plays a small role in the beginning of the movie as to the origin of the monster. This was as much info on the monster as I can get... the reason for this is because no, including cast and crew has actually seen the monster. I don't even think J.J knows what the final monster will look like.. that is being kept very secret... The monster will be entirely in CGI where, indeed, most of the films budget will go.... There weren't even any anamatronic hands or feet on set which implies that there will be no real/direct contact with the monster and cast (unless it's all CGI)..... And as for the theories of multiple monsters... NO.. sorry, it is only one gigantic monster.

To conclude, it is not Godzilla, A lion, Voltron, Rampage.. or any of the other monsters people have been thinking... it will be original and it will be a Creature of some sort (not robot)... they are still working on what it will actually look like..

THE PLOT:

So, again, I could only get so much info on the topic... But basically this film has seen more rewrites than... well.. whatever other movie has seen a lot of rewrites... a lot basically. Originally the entire film was all destruction from beginning to end, J.J wanted all action, all the time. It was, like I said, your basic Monster movie, no real plot, as long as people die and te monster destroys a lot of stuff... But after the buzz over the trailer, the producers felt that there needed to be more to the story than just things blowing up... so the rewrites began.. but there was only so much they can do.... They did give a little bit on Rob and Beth and they're crushes.. and a little bit on the brother and friends.. but for the most part. .there's no real character development in this movie... And so... the myspaces were created to give the characters a little more back story.. this way, true fans will know much about the characters when the film finally does release... but those who only have seen the trailer and never took anything out of it than another monster movie and won't get much backstory on the characters... since the plan is to make most of the movie about the destruction... Though... the monster will not truly be revealed until about 30 minutes in to the movie...

THE STLYE:

Though many feel that the movie will consist of home video to give it a more "real" effect.. this is not true... The film will be shot the way we see any other movie (we'll call it Film Look) but will have parts in home video, like the trailer. Infact, what we see in the trailer is in the movie, but there are "Film Look" scenes in between that we haven't seen. As much as some people would like to see a blair witch style movie with this film... it siimply doesn't work... everything woudl be too shaky and the audience will be too bored with the handheld... and if the film was shot that way.... it would suggest that, like Balir witch, the monster would be diffficult to see or not seen at all.. which would not satisfy the audience.. and So I guess we get the best of both worlds with both styles intergrated... Plus... who holds on to a camera the hole time..It's just not believeable....

THE SITES:

So the offical sites are still 1-18-08.com and Slusho.jp.. no warbloid or rage of the gods....though Slusho doesn't have that big of a part in the movie, it does have the most clues as to the origins of the monster...but I don't know, my friend doesn't know... but some one knows what they're doing.. but it's too confusing and frustrating to crack the "codes" so to speak.. And then there's 1-18-08.com.... There are still only 5 pictures with two of them having messages.... There are no real clues in these pictures.. I'm sorry.. The pictures were put up there as more teasers as to what happened that night..giving you a time frame. There are no hidden messages and if they are.. we'll never find out until the movie comes out...

But Good news... the producers are listening to the fans who are frustrated with the mystery and know that you can only hold out for so long... A reason for this is was the lousy roar that was inserted 6 minutes into staying on the site... the producers found out that you guys were outraged that a new picture or some form of information was giving.. it was just a roar.. so they want to make up for it...

TITLES and NEW TRAILERS:

So everyone has been wondering what the title will be... and you are no different from the producers... when production began.. the film still didn't have a title... Cloverfield, Slusho, Etc. were just working titles (I'm sure we all knew that) But J.J really, really wanted to get the trailer out in time for the release of Transformers since he's smart and knows that it will be seen a lot with a blockbuster like that... So what do they do... they push it with no title and what they had shot already.. hence... we all saw what some have said to be the greates trailer ever made.. though it was all pretty much a fluke by J.J for not having a title ready... not to say that they didn't know what they were doing... I'm sure they wanted the movie to seem mysterious.. but there was not title to release at the point... And if that weren't enough.. they did decide to release the title at Comicon..but after the poster leak fiasco.... they scratched it and went back to the drawing board... It was going to be Monstrous (and they saved themselves by releasing other posters with other adjectives)... but because of the leak.. they decided to change it again... soon Overnight and Parasite were scratched and the newest "weak" title "Wreck" will soon be scratched... For some reason J.J wants to keep the title one word.. it's like his thing (Alias, Lost).. and not very ellaborate titles.. just basic words... but I dunno if we'll be happy with the final title...but as for now.. they're still working on it..

Which leads to the new trailer that will soon come out that will AGAIN have no title!!!! What is up with that.. give it a title already!!.. But the new trailer will consist of actual scenes related to the aftermath of the first trailer.. This includes Rob among other friends struggling to get away from the monster (which won't be shown of course.. again)... ad find themselves at a first aid center where (as I have seen on previous posts on the new trailer).. will have "infected people".. but no.. this will not be a monster/zombie movie.. the infection is a result from a mysterious ooze that comes from the monster.. upon contact.. they get sick and may look like zombies.. but do not hunt for brains... It just makes them look like crap for some reason..

So that's my theory.. I'm sure I left some stuff out.. but I can only remember so much.... So, personally, I don't think the movie will live up to the hype.. I think we all wanted a little bit more out of this movie.. but we'll soon find out that the phenomenon was basically a fluke which went to the producers advantage.. and now we're left with the obession of trying to find out what this movie is about and they're struggling to try and live up to the hype.. it's just a big mess..

EDIT: here's the link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060277/board/nest/84371161

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This is what I've been thinking lately about this film. Only time will tell I guess and I'll still be lurking around these threads until the release date to see what happens.

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Hmm all of that of what was posted was exactly what I was thinking about the movie.

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This seems like another summation of everything that has been said already.

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We've speculated so much about this film that no matter what JJ comes up with for the film some dude is gonna be like....I knew it!...I was right! I'm still gonna see this no matter what though....no matter what anyone leaks or says.

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TVRotBrain wrote:
This seems like another summation of everything that has been said already.


I concur. There really isn't much "new" in this theory; that's all it appears to be too. All of this has been speculated about, but the IMDb post doesn't throw any curtains back or take off any masks.

The only things I found interesting was the assumption that Montrous, Overnight and Parasite were, at some time, official titles. A one word title would be cool, if it's the right word.

The mixed camera angles woulod work too without annoying me, personally, too much.

I don't think this movie will be a dissappointment, provided people remember it's a Monster movie.
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I agree - there's nothing terribly new about any of this. Also, the explanation for why it's not all Blair Witch style seems fishy. The trailer makes an implicit promise: that the whole movie will be in that style. To make it any other way would piss off more people than would a shaky camera, doncha' think?

To do it Blair Witch would allow them to not show too much of the monster, thus saving on budget and also upping the intensity at the same time. The idea of making a monster movie in that style is just too brilliant to let go. It would be action-packed and intense, while also being relatively cheap. To avoid these benefits because of fears that the shaky camera would irritate people is just silly. Blair Witch's shaky camera irritated a lot of people, but that movie made a LOT of money. So, I don't buy the explanation given; but then, what the hell do I know? I'm not an 'insider.'

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I would NOT watch this film if it had a handheld camera through the whole freaking movie. I think the description of the Camera was entirely plausible.

EDIT:Did you see The Bourne Ultimatum? A lot people were complaining because the whole movie was shot in the shaky camera effect because it made them dizzy. I didn't mind it though. But if your supposed to know that someone is holding the camera the whole time, they're going to make it a lot more shaky. To make it realistic.

EDIT Again: Also, it is just a teaser, a teaser trailer doesn't usually tell the plot or anything(Thats why we don't know anything about the movie) And sometimes they film a teaser trailer just to raise the hype for the movie. I have seen teasers that have a scene in them but they never had that scene in the actual movie. I'm not saying that Cloverfield will have this, but it could be possible that the movie will only have some handheld "moments" in the film.

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LBJ wrote:
I would NOT watch this film if it had a handheld camera through the whole freaking movie. I think the description of the Camera was entirely plausible.


Why? It worked with Blair Witch.

Given it's IMDb, I wouldn't trust that post even if it actually came from someone who was involved because the forum users make stuff up and claim it's legitimate all the time there.
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I always find it kinda funny the lengths people go to sound convincing, to no avail but convolute and disrupt an environment (Making whole web pages, writing full synopsi like this one, and whatever other gamejacking goes on). Seems like these folk could find pretty good work somewhere doing the same things for legitimate projects if they put themselves in the right place, you know?

However, the article does make me feel a little better about some of the outlandish spec not coming to fruition if it is legit. The article seeemingly covered all the legal bases to keep someone out of disclosure agreement trouble, but really why blow so much of your load this early?

It's barely September. There're still whole semesters of school to go through, Halloween costumes to ponder, Christmas presents to buy, baseball playoffs and 97% of entire football seasons to play, four or five months of rent and bills to pay, my entire personal favorite season of Autumn to enjoy, and whatever million other things we generally look forward to coming up before this movie is released. I wonder if that's why I've been so fond of the Interpol song "Pace is the Trick" lately... Wink

Anyway, my point is that I don't see a point for something official to come out by the means of an IMDB post by an anonymous anyone, but it does kinda put some of the more reasonable spec into one clean place.

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Re: Alleged Insider Post on IMDB

jon-561 wrote:
Originally the entire film was all destruction from beginning to end, J.J wanted all action, all the time. It was, like I said, your basic Monster movie, no real plot, as long as people die and te monster destroys a lot of stuff... But after the buzz over the trailer, the producers felt that there needed to be more to the story than just things blowing up... so the rewrites began..


I don't necessarily(cant spell that word) agree with that specific post; mainly because it wouldnt make sense to film part of a trailer for the only purpose as to have a random trailer. It would be much more cost effective to use existing film, IMO. Also, there's been too many "insiders" posting to various high profile high population sites, so it makes me rather skeptical about the validity of the information. Besides, there's already a movie coming out about all action all the time. It's called Shoot 'Em Up. I dont think I've seen a successful monster movie about only action. There's got to be *some* plot hooks in there that make you want to keep watching. Besides, if JJ only wanted action and that was it, why would he set up the Rob character going to Japan and all his friends talking about how they will miss him. That's just my opinion Very Happy

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