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Dale Mail from greywethers - Aug 14
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LazarusLong
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 		Dale Mail from greywethers - Aug 14
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From: <whitehouse@greywethers.net>

To: <dale@synthasia.com>

Subject: novem in numero

Date: 14 August 2003

novem sunt intra et ultra

ea sunt custodes viarum inter mundos

fides caro facta

novem in numero


By my schoolboy latin translation, this reads:

nine exist within and beyond (or nine exist on this side and the other side)

they are guardians of the way between the worlds

faith/belief happens at a high price

nine in number/total
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 		Re: Dale Mail from greywethers - Aug 14
nine exist within and beyond (or nine exist on this side and the other side)

they are guardians of the way between the worlds

faith/belief happens at a high price

nine in number total (Nine in the total number of their name)
DUH!!!

There is a book, by Rosario Castellanos (I think that is one of authors on the aquarium pages) titled the "Nine Guardians". I am still searching for an online site to read it. It was translated into English by Irene Richardson. We need to know their names.

Here is a link for a summary of the book.

And here is a link for the front cover of the book. Looks like our guys. Scary.
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 		Re: Dale Mail from greywethers - Aug 14
Myssfitz wrote:

There is a book, by Rosario Castellanos (I think that is one of authors on the aquarium pages) titled the "Nine Guardians". I am still searching for an online site to read it. It was translated into English by Irene Richardson. We need to know their names.


Here is a synopsis by Free Terrm Papers....
Quote:
She also begins to learn to look with lowered eyes when humility looks at bigness, like the Indians do out of respect for the Nine Guardians. From what I understand, the Indians believe that there are nine protectors of the earth that watch over all and control everything.


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Quote:
From: <whitehouse@greywethers.net>

To: <dale@synthasia.com>

Subject: caro mutata in petram

Date: 16 August 2003


novem sunt intra et ultra

ea sunt custodes viarum inter mundos

fides caro facta

per fidem nutrita, ea sunt caro factae spes et ambitiones nostrae

caro mutata in petram

novem in numero


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cemgate2002 wrote:
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From: <whitehouse@greywethers.net>

To: <dale@synthasia.com>

Subject: caro mutata in petram

Date: 16 August 2003


novem sunt intra et ultra

ea sunt custodes viarum inter mundos

fides caro facta

per fidem nutrita, ea sunt caro factae spes et ambitiones nostrae

caro mutata in petram

novem in numero


The first three lines and the last line are the same as in the previous message:

The nine exist here and beyond
They are the guardians of the ways between the worlds
Faith/belief happens at a high price

Nine in number/total

The first new line translates roughly as follows:

per fidem nutrita, ea sunt caro factae spes et ambitiones nostrae

Through the encouragement of faith/belief, they exist to bring about our dearest hopes and desires

The second new line is puzzling, so I'll give the direct translations as well as my best guess:

caro - costly, precious, valued; high-priced, expensive
mutata - move, change, shift, alter, exchange, substitute (for); modify
in - in, on, in accordance with/regard to/the case of
petram - rock, boulder; shaped stone as used in building

valued/precious change in stone

Anyway, that's my best guess - anyone better versed in Latin?

BTW, excellent Latin dictionary resource: http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latin.htm
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 		That's roughly what I got too.
I finally found a pretty good Latin site:

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/resolveform?lang=Latin

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