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sMooTH WuN
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named by professor dopp at kit?

im not sure if thats a serious suggestion or funny.. dopp could be a name right

when i see the "named by professor at" i start thinking like a professor recieved an award of some kind maybe?


EDIT: OR.. "Kit" named by professor dopp?

EDIT2: Got a few hits for "Professor Dopp" on Ask.Com

one description: http://online.sfsu.edu/~ceb/biographies/dopp.htm

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John A. Dopp is a Professor of Management in the College of Business at San Francisco State University. Professor Dopp's teaching interests include both the areas of Management and Economics. In Management, Dr. Dopp teaches an award winning course in Leadership, and he has developed an innovative course in Corporate Management where CEOs present their management and leadership philosophies to a class of MBA students each week. In Economics, Dr. Dopp teaches an applied course in economic theory. Dr. Dopp is also helping to manage one cohort of the successful Accelerated MBA program. He also teaches in the program. Dr. Dopp earned his BS and MBA degrees in Marketing from Miami University, Ohio. Dr. Dopp received a Doctor of Arts degree in Business and Economics from Lehigh University, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

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Um, in a word, no. Very Happy

Dopp was a hint to help us get the word "kit."

The anagram was securekit.com.

We now have another anagram, "Named by professor at" which has nothing to do with Dopp, or kit.

This likely has to do with the picture, a stegosaurus. So this dinosaur was named by Professor Marsh who taught at Yale.

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ohkay I got a bit confused for a second, thanks..
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I'm not sure that Yale is the "at" part but it's the only thing that makes sense. I havent found any site that says exactly where Marsh was when he named it stegosaurus. From TDC's last email it sounds like I'm hovering around the answer but I'm not putting it in right.

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I found a full article on the findings of Othanial Charles Marsh and his partner turned rival, Edward Drinker Cope:

http://www.historynet.com/magazines/american_history/3027491.html

an excerpt regarding the stegasaurus find:

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The dinosaur rush began in earnest in 1877 after a mining teacher named Ar-thur Lakes wrote to Marsh about fossil bones he had discovered near Morrison, Colorado. When Marsh did not reply, Lakes sent some samples to Cope. That move galvanized Marsh, and he quickly sent $100 to Lakes, who dutifully asked Cope to send the bones on to his rival. Marsh then dispatched one of his field collectors, Benjamin Mudge, a professor at the Agricultural College of Kansas, to look over Lakes' find. "Satisfactory arrangement made for two months," Mudge cabled back, adding that "Jones"--code for Cope--"cannot interfere." Within a few weeks Mudge and Lakes shipped a ton of bones back east. The shipment included the first remains of a Stegosaurus.



EDIT: Specifically, the location of the first finds of the stegasaurus were in the "Morrison Formation"

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrison_Formation)
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This may be a coincidence, but the ROT-7 of Yale is rtex... an anagram for t-rex.

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nic, have u tried "named by professor othaniel charles marsh at yale", as the key? this might be "the complete answer" that tdc was talking bout?

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There are sooooo many things this could be its kind of a wait for Tom to give someone the clue that solves it or we just randomly hit it.

If you are talking with him ask for a letter count? (ie how many letters in the code) ask if its all upper or lower case? are only proper names capitalized? Is it rot-ed? anything that can help narrow it down.


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i dont know if he has already said this to you nicole but check this reply I got from Tom:


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Nicole is very close, but she is missing one important historical detail...


On 9/20/07, michael <sm00thwun> wrote:
well i guess im not supposed to understand that comment just yet, so ill accept that.. as for keeping updated on your deadman's hand puzzle.. I believe I have caught up and im guessing at passwords to de-steg the stegasaurus picture.. anything I should know about this picture? or in general for that matter?


so the detail Nicole is missing is historical.. a date, or a like nicole said before, possibly the exact location of Othanial Charles Marsh when he named the Stegasaurus..


EDIT: Another note of interest, if it applies: back in 1877, Yale was called Yale "College" .. not University.. it probably doesnt apply but just throwin it out there
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I was reading wikipedia and wondering if this has to do with the name of the college at the time.

Yale University was refered to as Yale College. Also, back in the day it would possibly be refered to the Yale Scientific School or Sheffield Scientific School. It was renamed to Sheffield in 1861 and was some times called "The Sheff"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Othniel_Charles_Marsh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Scientific_School

As a side note : A series of lectures, later known as the Sheffield Lectures was instituted by the school in 1866. Professor Othniel Charles Marsh of the school led four Yale scientific expeditions in search of fossils in 1870-3.


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GOT IT! Finally! lol The Password/Hidden File/Message:

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The Password to the Steg Pic:

Yale College

Hidden Within the Pic:

ndin hso etud nes hit...

hint: 5 words, a prime verse from my favorite author Smile


Possibly an Anagram?

EDIT:
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I was so quick to post that that I forgot to mention the name of the notepad file: "plants and grass"


BTW:
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Beatcha on the Yale College find Das Razz

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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
ndin hso etud nes hit...

hint: 5 words, a prime verse from my favorite author Smile

He hasnt made any comments on authors or books, which leads me to believe he may be referring to the bible due to the word "verse" he used..

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What about Dr. Seuss? Oh the Places You'll go was used infinity times.

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pwnt wrote:
What about Dr. Seuss? Oh the Places You'll go was used infinity times.


wow i didnt even think of that... i do believe you are right

EDIT: There seems to be only one of Dr. Seus' poems that deal with plants and grass... its called "Lorax".. i cant find a script of it though... not word for word at least.. and the "Oh the places youll go!" poem doesnt have any lines that fit the code.. (first and last letter of the first word is the same, ex: "High", "gang", etc)

EDIT2: Ok after screwing with it all night... ive come up with one anagram that seems suiting for my current situation..heh..

"ITS HIDDEN ON THE SUN"

lol.. who are we electing to go look for it... honestly ive looked at this over and over again.. the only words in "Oh! The Places You'll Go!" that match the first word of the code (beginning and last letter the same) are "that" and "gang" and neither are followed by a three letter word.. thats why im thinking it either has to be an anagram or a vigenere... as for vigenere, ive tried the passwords: DrSeuss, Plants and Grass, Lorax, ohtheplacesyoullgo, Theodor Geisel (dr seuss' real name), Geisel, Teddy Geisel, Theodor Seuss Geisel, and a few others I cant think of right now..

the hint says "5 words, a prime verse from my favorite author"... 5 is a prime number but im not sure of the importance of this.. I couldnt find any seuss poem that dealt with numbers.. prime specifically..for reference a prime number is a number divisible only by 1 and itself, with no remainder. (ex: 17 / 1 = 17).. a table of primes from 1-1000 is:

Quote:
2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23
29 31 37 41 43 47 53 59 61 67
71 73 79 83 89 97 101 103 107 109
113 127 131 137 139 149 151 157 163 167
173 179 181 191 193 197 199 211 223 227
229 233 239 241 251 257 263 269 271 277
281 283 293 307 311 313 317 331 337 347
349 353 359 367 373 379 383 389 397 401
409 419 421 431 433 439 443 449 457 461
463 467 479 487 491 499 503 509 521 523
541 547 557 563 569 571 577 587 593 599
601 607 613 617 619 631 641 643 647 653
659 661 673 677 683 691 701 709 719 727
733 739 743 751 757 761 769 773 787 797
809 811 821 823 827 829 839 853 857 859
863 877 881 883 887 907 911 919 929 937
941 947 953 967 971 977 983 991 997

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Here is the Lorax by Dr Suess

Quote:
At the far end of town, where the Grickle-grass grows
and the wind smells slow-and-sour when it blows
and no birds ever sing excepting old crows...
is the Street of the Lifted Lorax.

And deep in the Grickle-grass, some people say,
if you look deep enough you can still see, today,
where the Lorax once stood, just as long as it could
before somebody lifted the Lorax away.

What WAS the Lorax? And why was it there?
And why was it lifted and taken somewhere
from the far end of town where the Grickle-grass grows?
The old Once-ler still lives here.
Ask him. HE knows.

You wont see the Once-ler. Dont knock at his door.
He stays in his Lerkim on top of his store.
He lurks in his Lerkim, cold under the roof,
where he makes his own clothes
out of miff-muffered moof.

And on special dank midnights in August,
he peeks out of the shutters
and sometimes he speaks
and tells how the Lorax was lifted away.

He'll tell you, perhaps...
if you're willing to pay.

On the end of a rope he lets down a tin pail
and you have to toss in fifteen cents and a nail
and the shell of a great-great-great
grandfather snail.

He pulls up the pail,
makes a most careful count
to see if you've paid him the proper amount.

Then he hides what you pay him
away in his Snuvv,
his secret strange hole in his gruvvulous glove.

Then he grunts, "I will call you by Whisper-ma-Phone,
for the secrets I tell are for your ears alone."

"SLUPP!"
Down slupps the Whisper-ma-Phone to your ear
and the Once-ler's whispers are not very clear,
since they have to come down
through a snergelly hose,
and he sounds as if he had
smallish bees up his nose.

"Now I'll tell you," he says,
with his teeth sounding gray,
"how the Lorax got lifted and taken away...
It all started back...
such a long, long time back...


Way back in the days when the grass was still green
and the pond was still wet
and the clouds were still clean
and the song of the Swomee-Swans rand out into space...
one morning, I came to this glorious place.
And I first saw the trees!
The Truffula Trees!
The bright-colored tufts of the Truffula trees!
Mile after mile in the fresh morning breeze.

And, under the trees, I saw Brown Bar-ba-loots
frisking about in their Bar-ba-loot suits
as they played in the shade and ate Truffula Fruits.

From the rippulous pond
came the comfortable sound
of the Humming-Fish humming
while splashing around.

But those TREES!
Those TREES!
THOSE TRUFFULA TREES!
All my life I've been searching
for trees such as these.
The touch of their tufts was much softer than silk
And they had the sweet smell Of fresh butterfly milk.

I felt a great leaping
of joy in my heart.
I knew just what I'd do!
I unloaded my cart.

In no time at all, I had built a small shop.
Then I chopped down a Truffula Tree with one chop.
And with great skillful skill and with great speedy speed,
I took the soft tuft. And I knitted a Thneed!

The instant I'd finished, I heard a GA-ZUMP!
I looked.
I saw something pop out of the stump
of the tree I'd chopped down.
It was sort of a man.
Describe him?...That's hard.
I don't know if I can.

He was shortish. And oldish.
And brownish. And mossy.
And he spoke with a voice that was sharpish and bossy.

"Mister!" he said with a sawdusty sneeze,
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees.
I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues.
And I'm asking you, sir, at the top of my lungs"--
he was very upset as he shouted and puffed--
"What's that THING you've made out of my Truffula tuft?"

"Look, Lorax," I said. "There's no call for alarm.
I chopped just one tree. I am doing no harm.
I'm being quite useful. This thing is a Thneed.
A Thneed's a Fine-Something-That-All-People-Need!
It's a shirt. It's a sock. It's a glove. It's a hat.
But it has OTHER uses. Yes, far beyond that.
You can use it for carpets. For pillows! For sheets!
Or curtains! Or covers for bicycle seats!"

The Lorax said,
"Sir! You are crazy with greed.
There is no one on earth
who would buy that fool Thneed!"

But the very next minute I proved he was wrong.
For, just at that minute, a chap came along,
and he thought that the Thneed I had knitted was great.
He happily bought it for three ninEty-eight

I laughed at the Lorax, "You poor stupid guy!
You never can tell what some people will buy."

"I repeat," cried the Lorax,
"I speak for the trees!"

"I'm busy," I told him.
"Shut up, if you please."

I rushed 'cross the room, and in no time at all,
built a radio-phone. I put in a quick call.

I called all my brothers and uncles and aunts
and I said, "Listen here! Here's a wonderful chance
for the whole Once-ler Family to get mighty rich!
Get over here fast! Take the road to North Nitch.
Turn left at Weehawken.
Sharp right at South Stitch."

And, in no time at all, in the factory i built,
the whole Once-ler Family was working full tilt.
We were all knitting Thneeds just as busy as bees,
to the sound of the chopping of Truffula Trees.

Then..
Oh! Baby! Oh!
How my business did grow!
Now, chopping one tree
at a time was too slow.

So I quickly invented my Super-Axe-Hacker
which whacked off four Tuffula Trees at one smacker.
We were making Thneeds
four times as fast as before!
And that Lorax?...
HE didn't show up anymore.

But the next week
he knocked on my new office door.

He snapped, "I'm the Lorax who speaks for the trees
which you seem to be chopping as fast as you please.
But I'm ALSO in charge of the Brown Bar-ba-loots
who played in the shade in their Bar-ba-loot suits
and happily lived, eating Truffula Friuts.

"NOW...thanks to your hacking my trees to the ground,
there's not enough Truffula Fruit to go 'round.
And my poor Bar-ba-loots are all getting the crummies
because they have gas, and no food, in their tummies!

"They loved living here. But I can't let them stay.
They'll have to find food. And I hope that they may.
Good luck, boys," he cried. And he sent them away.

I, the Once-ler, felt sad
as I watched them all go.
BUT...
business is business
And business must grow
regardless of crummies in tummies, you know.

I meant no harm.
I most truly did not.
But I had to grow bigger. So bigger I got.

I biggered my factory. I biggered my roads.
I biggered my wagons.
I biggered the loads of the Theends I shipped out.
I was shipping them forth to the South! To the East!
To the West! To the North!
I went right on biggering...selling more Thneeds.
And I biggered my money, which everyone needs.

Then AGAIN he came back!
I was fixing some pipes
when that old-nuicence Lorax came back
with MORE gripes.

"I am the Lorax," he coughed and he whiffed.
He sneezed and he snuffled. He snarggled. He sniffed.
"Once-ler!" he cried with a cruffulous croak.
"Once-ler! You're making a smogulous smoke!
My poor Swomee-Swans...why, they can't sing a note!
No one can sing who has smog in his throat.

"And so," said the Lorax,
"--please pardon my cough--
they cannot live here.
So I'm sending them off.

"Where will they go now?... I dont hopefully know.
They may have to fly for a month...or a year...
To escape from the smog you've smogged-up around here.

"What's more," snapped the Lorax. (His dander was up.)
"Let me say a few words about Gluppity-Glupp.
Your machinery chugs on, day and night without stop
making Gluppity-Glupp. Also Schloppity-Schlopp.
And what do you do with this leftover goo?
I'll show you, you dirty old Once-ler man, you!

You're Glumping the pond where the Humming-Fish hummed!
No more can they hum, for their gills are all gummed.
So, I'm sending them off. Oh, thier future is dreary.
They'll walk on their fins and get woefully weary
in search of some water that isn't so smeary."

And then I got mad.
I got terribly mad.
I yelled at the Lorax, "Now listen here, Dad!
All you do is yap-yap and say 'Bad! Bad! Bad! Bad!"
Well, I have my rights, sir, and I;m telling YOU
I intend to go on doing just what I do!
And, for your information, you Lorax, I'm figgering
on biggering,
and Biggering
and BIGGERING
and BIGGERING,
turning MORE Truffula Trees into Thneeds
which everyone, EVERYONE, EVERYONE needs!"

And at that very moment, we heard a loud whack!
From outside in the fields came a sickening smack
of an axe on a tree. Then we heard the tree fall.
The very last Tuffula Tree of them all!

No more trees. No more Thneeds. No more work to be done.
So, in no time, my uncles and aunts, every one,
all waved good-bye. They jumped into my cars
and drove away under the smoke (or smog)-smuggered stars.

Now all that was left 'neath the bad-smelling sky
was my big empty factory...
the Lorax...
and I.

The Lorax said nothing. Just gave me a glance...
just gave me a very sad, sad backward glance...
as he lifted himself by the seat of his pants.

And I'll never forget the grim look on his face
when he heisted himself and took leave of this place,
through a hole in the smog, without leaving a trace.

And all that the Lorax left here in this mess
was a smaLl pile of rocks, with one word... "UNLESS."
Whatever THAT meant, well, I couldn't guess.

That was long, long ago.
But each day since that day
I've sat here and worried and worried away.
Through the years, while my buildings have fallen apart,
I've worried about it with all of my heart.

"But NOW," says the Once-ler,
"Now that YOU'RE here,
the word of the Lorax seems perfectly clear.

UNLESS someone like you
cares a whole awful lot,
nothing is going to get better.
It's not.

"SO...
Catch!" calls the Once-ler.
He lets something fall.
"Its a Truffula Seed.
It's the last one of all!

You're in charge of the last of the Truffula Seeds.
And Truffula Trees are what everyone needs.
Plant a new Truffula. Treat it with care.
Give it clean water. And feed it fresh air.
Grow a forest. Protect it from axes that hack.
Then the Lorax and all of his friends may come back."


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