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Cowabella
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Atlantis and Mu-the lost paradise(s)-I love the thought of it. You always think of Atlantis first, rather than Mu. It never occurred to me that might be the direction to take. Good job, even if it doesn't pan out! Oh, and welcome to the nut farm... Wink
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Another mu...

Considering the Asian connection (Lien), here's another possible mu:

http://catb.org/jargon/html/M/mu.html

Quote:

mu: /moo/

The correct answer to the classic trick question "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?". Assuming that you have no wife or you have never beaten your wife, the answer "yes" is wrong because it implies that you used to beat your wife and then stopped, but "no" is worse because it suggests that you have one and are still beating her. According to various Discordians and Douglas Hofstadter the correct answer is usually "mu", a Japanese word alleged to mean "Your question cannot be answered because it depends on incorrect assumptions". Hackers tend to be sensitive to logical inadequacies in language, and many have adopted this suggestion with enthusiasm. The word 'mu' is actually from Chinese, meaning 'nothing'; it is used in mainstream Japanese in that sense. In Chinese it can also mean "have not" (as in "I have not done it"), or "lack of", which may or may not be a definite, complete 'nothing'). Native speakers of Japanese do not recognize the Discordian question-denying use, which almost certainly derives from overgeneralization of the answer in the following well-known Rinzai Zen koan:

A monk asked Joshu, "Does a dog have the Buddha nature?" Joshu retorted, "Mu!"


I can't figure out the tie in, though. Is there no solution to the puzzle? Assuming there is a connection: Which puzzle can't be solved?

EDIT: The only thing we haven't solved is the junk in the junk DNA, right? All the magic squares have been solved, I thought. The threads are sooo long. I hate to try to go back to the orig thread to pick up the exact point where the mu reference comes in to put this "solve" in context.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:22 am
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ever heard of the Hash House Harriers?

Perhaps the "Mu," in your context, is telling us that we're following a red herring. Until the junk DNA is solved and the next chapter is begun, I guess we're left waiting...

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gonna go search the orig thread for the mu reference and see what the context was. RE H3, just read up on it. Sounds interesting, kind of like free running. Both of which, I'm sorry to say, I'm too old and fluffy to compete in. I am an excellent cheerleader, though. Do you partake or do you see a connection to the puzzle?


EDIT: Blast and drat! I can't find the original reference even using search...
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Mu was found here:

Chronus_Valtiel wrote:
ForumLurker wrote:
ok.. took a quick look.. not much to see..

this is about all I came across..
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

The image name is quite odd...

1_0_1_1_0_1_0_1_1_0_1_1_0_1_0_1_1_0_1.jpg

which looks like Binary to me.. but I couldn't get the binary converter at Purple Hell to do anything with it.

Also.. the sound file is called Soundandfury.wav

Who knows.. maybe those are parts of the clue.

(I can't help much past that.. since they absolutely refuse to email me anything.. even after I signed up on Both places.. ages ago.)

*shrugs*


I did a translation and got this:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
µµ


Doubt it's anything.


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Re: SEARCH is my friend
NOT!

Cowabella wrote:
RE H3, just read up on it. Sounds interesting, kind of like free running. Both of which, I'm sorry to say, I'm too old and fluffy to compete in. I am an excellent cheerleader, though. Do you partake or do you see a connection to the puzzle?


Their paths are riddled with red herrings. That was the only connection. Not trying to create a red herring of my own, and didn't mean to inject unnecessary info! Sorry Smile When someone finds the true path they yell "On-on!"

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I really thought the original mu reference was further back, like in the Triad Genomics thread, where the first puzzles were given. Isn't that where we got the binary to begin with? My head hurts Sad
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Cowabella wrote:
I really thought the original mu reference was further back, like in the Triad Genomics thread, where the first puzzles were given. Isn't that where we got the binary to begin with? My head hurts Sad


The binary used to decode the two mu symbols (μμ) came from the title of the image used on the front page of TheGenesisConspiracy.com

There are multiple instances and sizes of this image, but I believe they all have the same binary title to them.

My money is still on lost continent, as the image was of a Mayan calender and the author has said in his press release:

"CHRISTOPHER FORREST has lived on a sailboat, explored Mayan ruins in the jungles of Central America, free-dived the barrier reefs off the coast of Belize, and solo-hiked through the Everglades."

So when you mix the mayan ruins with his free-diving/sailboat living lifestyle, I think long-lost undersea continent which is fabled to have founded the mayan culture which happens to share a name with the symbol pulled out of the binary title of the mayan calendar image, I think it's heading in the right direction, but I'm not yelling "on-on" yet.

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I like your theory better than mine...
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Tying it back to Puzzle #3, Mu1 and Mu2 are both stars in the constellation Scorpius - the 13th and 16th brightest, respectively.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stars_in_Scorpius)

So, either the new image on www.thegenesisconspiracy.com is pointing us back to the Scorpius puzzle, or both puzzles are pointing elsewhere.

FWIW, lost continents, while interesting, would be a considerable departure from the book which, though it dealt closely with pseudoscience, didn't delve into theories clearly disproved by modern science.
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GlitteringGold wrote:
Tying it back to Puzzle #3, Mu1 and Mu2 are both stars in the constellation Scorpius - the 13th and 16th brightest, respectively.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stars_in_Scorpius)

So, either the new image on www.thegenesisconspiracy.com is pointing us back to the Scorpius puzzle, or both puzzles are pointing elsewhere.

FWIW, lost continents, while interesting, would be a considerable departure from the book which, though it dealt closely with pseudoscience, didn't delve into theories clearly disproved by modern science.


I like that a lot. And thanks for the book reference, I'm hoping to pick it up myself today.

So, not only are they both in the constellation, but they both represent basically the same point in the constellation. I'd have no idea where to go from there, but interesting that they are literally overlayed on one another in the map of the constellation.

As the wikipedia article states: "They are separated by 0.1° on the sky."

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Mu1&2

Mu2 is only 517 light years from Earth; Mu1 is 822 light years away. 305 light years from one to the other? Does that translate to .1 degree?
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Re: Mu1&2

Cowabella wrote:
Mu2 is only 517 light years from Earth; Mu1 is 822 light years away. 305 light years from one to the other? Does that translate to .1 degree?


I'm not certain, but I believe .1 degree refers to the *visible* distance apart in the sky when viewed from Earth (where 180 degrees = opposite horizons) and is independent of physical distance apart in space.

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For some strange reason, I really don't feel like the distance between the stars is of any relevance. My claim is completely baseless, but it really just seems unimportant. I could be wrong though.

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Re: Mu1&2

GlitteringGold wrote:
Cowabella wrote:
Mu2 is only 517 light years from Earth; Mu1 is 822 light years away. 305 light years from one to the other? Does that translate to .1 degree?


I'm not certain, but I believe .1 degree refers to the *visible* distance apart in the sky when viewed from Earth (where 180 degrees = opposite horizons) and is independent of physical distance apart in space.


Yeah, I'd guess that was from a 2d perspective.

So, if mu mu is the point on which to focus, do you think the provided wikipedia image might be a map? Could it be overlayed on something?

Also - and please tell me honestly, is my wild speculation gauche? I'm new to this and don't want to be rubbing anyone the wrong way. I'd hate to have my enthusiasm be making too much of things, you know?

Thanks Smile

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