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degravedi
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 		Dunno if it'll help, but my take on the line "Work in shifts. H.C. Monty will let you know you have the right one." makes me think that he possibly wants us to work with a shifted Vigenere cipher square. IE, using a normal Vigenere square, the word "actual" encrypted with the word "apple" becomes "arifel". However, say you use a +1 shifted Vignere square; then "actual" encrypted by "apple" becomes "bsjgfm." Maybe he wants us to use a +13 shifted Vigenere square?

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Adam C
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 		Where do you find a decoder that will let you do that?

Anyway, use one of the five 13 letter words as the key. Let us know what you find! Smile
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Xeraans
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 		Adam: I don't know of a single decoder that can do that, but, you can easily just Vigenere it, then Rot-X it, and you'll get all the possible shifts easily.

Sadly, though, I tried this with the key 'hcmonty' and got nothing, and also what 'hcmonty' turned into after I used that key. It definitely has to do with 'hcmonty' being the next to last word in the puzzle, though. I'll keep thinking.

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Adam C
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 		I'm fairly certain the key(s) are the thirteen letter words. Maybe if we tried rot-13 the ciphertext and THEN translating it? hmm...

ALAS: no such luck Sad
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EnigmaFisk
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 		new blog from tom:

http://mmmbophanson.blogspot.com/2007/09/getting-out-search-team.html

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nbnewell
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 		Bob IM'd me, apparently I am Angelus' "Official" Administrative Assistant LOL. (I really am not playing..I swear!!!!)

Here goes:

Quote:

Bob says (9:46 PM):
Where hath the angel gone Miss Bennett?
Nikki says (9:46 PM):
I am not sure, he seems "busy" at the moment, can I take a message?
Bob says (9:47 PM):
A message? You could tell him that time is running out.
Nikki says (9:47 PM):
yes, he and his friends are aware of that
they are struggling to find the answer
Nikki says (9:48 PM):
or should I say scrambling?
Bob says (9:48 PM):
Like eggs on a hot sunny day.
Nikki says (9:48 PM):
mhm, you could say that
Nikki says (9:49 PM):
is there any more information that I can relay to them that may assist them?
Bob says (9:49 PM):
Hrm....
Nikki says (9:49 PM):
I will bat my eyes...
Bob says (9:49 PM):
Since you ask so politely. Brother, I could spare a dime.
Nikki says (9:50 PM):
hmmm, that is quite obscure, but I will pass it on.
Bob says (9:49 PM):
That is not it Miss Bennett.
Nikki says (9:50 PM):
oh good
Bob says (9:50 PM):
Open and you will listen.
Nikki says (9:51 PM):
alright
is that thier clue?
Bob says (9:52 PM):
No my dear.
19 9 24
That would be it.
Nikki says (9:52 PM):
thank you so much
I will send it right over
Bob says (9:53 PM):
I hear Hanson might be taking a little trip out of state as well.
Nikki says (9:53 PM):
Interesting
to the same tourist destination?
Bob says (9:54 PM):
He's after what you're all after. I find it quite petty personally, just like a rat race. I would keep an eye on him, good cops can manipulate anyone.
Nikki says (9:55 PM):
hmmm, it has become a bit of a scuffle and fuss for some shiney metal hasn't it
I will make sure that Angelus keeps that in mind as well
Bob says (9:55 PM):
The old 196.96655
Bob says (9:56 PM):
So precious.
Nikki says (9:56 PM):
thank you...boy that looks like a dewey decimal number
Bob says (9:56 PM):
Maybe you should look in your local library then.
Nikki says (9:56 PM):
Thank you sir, I will pass this along.
Bob says (9:57 PM):
Thank you.
That is all Miss Bennett, the angel of death may soon be the same at this rate.
Nikki says (9:57 PM):
oh my
I will make sure he gets this promptly
have a good evening
Bob says (9:58 PM):
You too.


So there it is...have at it.
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EnigmaFisk
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 		196.96655
thats actually the atomic weight of gold i think...before the "goldrush" starts....


19 9 24

19+9+24=52
52 divided by 4=13
thats all that jumps out at me

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those numbers also correspond to the letters s-i-x


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Kyle Stutts
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 		Hey guys.....i know i am joining this arg late but i am caught up plus Angelus needed my help! Razz

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Adam C
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 		what is bob's messenger id and the program that you're all using?
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Angelus78
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Adam C wrote:
what is bob's messenger id and the program that you're all using?


It's msn and his addy is foldednightSPLAThotmail.com.

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Angelus78
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Chat with bob
Here is my recent chat with bob if there is more I'll add it on.


Quote:

Greetings bob how fares thee
Bob says:
I fare well angel. How about thou?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
I fare as well as can pe expected under such conditions.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
*be
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
How fares the three wise man along their path of enlightment
Bob says:
Not there yet says my latest report.
Bob says:
Are you feeling time constrainted my soon to be apprentice?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Time is a hound that is ever on my heel, I wish I could say the riddled words you've given us were coming together.
Bob says:
Hrm. Are you asking for an extension then?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
I don't imagine an extension would bring anymore enlightment on me or my fellow questioners.
Bob says:
Did Miss Bennett give you my message?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
aye, 19 9 24, curiousity and we guessed it was meant as a way of saying six but that is the extent to our findings.
Bob says:
Have you ever heard of K.I.S.S. by chance?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
A way of being that I've tried my best to live by
Bob says:
Sometimes the simple answers are the easiest.
Bob says:
And the right ones mon copain.
Bob says:
But the toughie is where to use it kid.
Bob says:
H.C. Monty will let you know.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Are you refering to the horse breeder
Bob says:
Perhaps, I will speak no more on that.
Bob says:
How is my death-bringer today?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Recovering from another nights dream and you
Bob says:
Looking for something if you must know.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
May I ask what that might be
Bob says:
You can ask but I will give you no answer.
Bob says:
Everything is much sweeter at the end of the journey.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Well then let me wish you a swift search on your path.
Bob says:
Heh.
Bob says:
Thank you.
Bob says:
Damn...
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Aren't we all.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Oh and my dear friend Nikki says 'ppthtjththththt'
Bob says:
May I ask Miss Bennett what that means?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Well to quote my dear friend Nikki "what ever he wants it to mean Dear."

Bob says:
Dear? Sounds much friendlier than you describe.
Bob says:
All stories have two sides.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Three if memory should serve me correctly, side one side two and the whole.
Bob says:
The whole consists of parts from the sides.
Bob says:
Which side do you reside on angel?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Show me the sides and I will tell you which one I call home.
Bob says:
The sides are not defined by generic lines and the sides are for you to decide.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Two things I can be sure of: one that I will stand by my friends no matter what and two you have always been as a friend and haven't threatened me
Bob says:
You have morals, perhaps unsuited for your title. I respect that though. I told you I would not harm you myself.
Bob says:
auz
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
In time I feel titles are thrust upon us in ch sing or not, I thank you for your kind words.
Bob says:
It's all about respect kid.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
I feel respect is best earned and any other way is worthless.
Bob says:
And that is why I trust you will continue to earn my respect.
Bob says:
Auz is your hint for tonight.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Thank you, I had a feeling it might be.
Bob says:
That it is.
Bob says:
Just look to the left and there it is.
Bob says:
Is there anything else you would like to ask or speak about death-bringer?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
My curiousity has me ask what the three are going to find at the grand canyon
Bob says:
Everything and nothing at the same time.
Bob says:
Think I can give away Act II already?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
That is upto the author of our actions, who am I to decide.
Bob says:
How are your friends holding up or is it just you on this case now?
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
T nibble at their fingertips as do I, we seem to be seeing t much of the forest and not enough of the tree.
Bob says:
Find the tree with the engraving to light your path.
Bob says:
If a man does not keep pace with his companions,
perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Perhaps.
Bob says:
I must depart for a short time kid.
Angelus Ex Mortis says:
Farewell for now, may my counterpart l k over you.
Bob says:
Just look to your left.
Bob says:
A little thought is sexton to all the world.


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Adam C
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 		what is auz and who is H.C. Monty?

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also, 19 9 24 is tjy when expressed numerically in vignere

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Angelus78
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Adam C wrote:
what is auz and who is H.C. Monty?


Two very good questions, no idea Very Happy

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nbnewell
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Chat with bob
Angelus78 wrote:
Here is my recent chat with bob if there is more I'll add it on.


Quote:

Bob says:
Just look to your left.
Bob says:
A little thought is sexton to all the world.


look to the left, and a sexton? west?

And wasn't the name of the author of the books with the thirteen reference Westerfield? [/quote]
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jonascltnc
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 		A little thought is sexton to all the world is a quote from Thoreau in "Life Without Principle."

AUZ might be "Australian Mines Unlimited" - the company mines for gold and nickel. Here's the website: http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/CompanyInfoSearchResults.jsp?searchBy=asxCode&allinfo=on&asxCode=AUZ

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