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[Blue District] Profession of Faith [solved]
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WolfHawk
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 		[Blue District] Profession of Faith [solved]
Another new blue puzzle.
Oh gods and goddesses help us now; it's another "identify the religion/philosophy" puzzle. GGAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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Our records of various old-world religious texts are sadly lacking once more. We have found records of historical quotes from prophetic figures of your time, only their sources cannot be attributed. Please help us in finding out who spoke or wrote these words... Be warned, an incorrect answer will be a disservice to the free people of Deus City, and equated with the bureaucratic red-tape that the HFU church has grown used to from the corporate overlords which tolerate us, but have steadily cut our funding and support.

Then there is a picture of St. Dairine's Cathedral (this is the location) with the following partial quotes:

1) "-uslim land is occupied, Jihad becomes and individual duty for every man and woman, boy and girl. A woman goes to Jihad witho-"

2)"-his rock I will build my church, and the powers of d-

3) "-o evolutionary entrance into the truly Spiritual condition of human existence, without ego-death or transce-"

4) "-austed Sun takes up his cycle then my prophecy and thr-"

5) "-t limited by time, space, nationality, or race. Your true home is not an abstract idea. It is somet-"

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taureanfreak
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 		Where is this? I can't find it in the Blue District

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WolfHawk
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 		It's on the lowest, individual island on the Blue District map.
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WolfHawk
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 		I don't know if this requires a spoiler tag or not. I thought everyone might want a chance to locate the quotes themselves so I added it.

Moderators, if it is inappropriate please remove it.

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2)"-his rock I will build my church, and the powers of d-
Bible, closest I can find is in Matthew 16: 13-19
18 And I say to you: That you are Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

3) "-o evolutionary entrance into the truly Spiritual condition of human existence, without ego-death or transce-"
Adi Da
"There is no Enlightenment, no evolutionary entrance into the truly Spiritual Condition of human existence, without ego-death, or transcendence of the mind."
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adi_Da

4) "-austed Sun takes up his cycle then my prophecy and thr-"
Our old friend Nostradamus:
(CENTURY I:fortyeight) Note: the actual number 4-8 put up a smilie.
When twenty years of the Moon's reign have passed
another will take up his reign for seven thousand years.
When the exhausted Sun takes up his cycle
then my prophecy and threats will be accomplished.
http://www.globalpsychics.com/enlightening-you/prophecy/nostradamus.shtml

5) "-t limited by time, space, nationality, or race. Your true home is not an abstract idea. It is somet-"

Vietnamese Zen Master Nhat Hanh:"Your true home is not an abstract idea. It is something you can touch and live in every moment.
Nhat Hanh, Thich, "Returning Home", Shambhala Sun, March 2006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nhat_Hanh

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Inari
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WolfHawk wrote:
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2)"-his rock I will build my church, and the powers of d-
Bible, closest I can find is in Matthew 16: 13-19
18 And I say to you: That you are Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


It might be pertinent to add, for completeness' sake, that:
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It was Jesus who was speaking.
Also, the Revised Standard Version of the Bible gives the necessary phrasing:
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it." (Matthew 16:18, RSV)


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Inari
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 		I also found a possible source for (1):
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From http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006101.php
For example, Dr. Abd Al-Muni'm Abu Al-Futuh, from the General Guidance Council of the Muslim Brotherhood appeared on al-Jazeera TV on April 25, 2004, where he stated:

"We, as Muslim Brotherhood and as the world leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood, support the armed resistance in Iraq against the American occupier, one hundred percent. I personally, as all members of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and around the world, wish to carry weapons against the American occupation…This is a matter of religion, not politics. When a Muslim land is occupied, Jihad becomes an individual duty…."

Unfortunately, the quote isn't complete so we can't tell if it ends correctly, but it does start correctly. There are many sources out there who have said roughly the same thing, but not with this exact wording, so this may be a useful lead. I'll keep searching to see if I can dig up more.

Edited to add:

Aha, found it:

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From http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=44
Dr. Abd Al-Muni'm Abu Al-Futuh, from the General Guidance Council of the Muslim Brotherhood appeared on Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar) on April 25, 2004, in which he spoke in favor of armed attacks against the American soldiers in Iraq. Following is a translation of his comments:

[...] When a Muslim land is occupied, Jihad becomes an individual duty for every man and woman, boy and girl. A woman goes out to Jihad without her husband's permission and a child without his father's permission. In this matter there is no place for discussion or games.


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jeremo
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 		So using these as a guess was incorrect:

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Dr. Abd Al-Muni'm Abu Al-Futuh
Jesus Christ
Adi Da
Nostradamus
Nhat Hanh



there are a lot of different names for Jesus though, he could be yeshua or joshua if you want to go for other translations of his name. he could be yeshua of galilee, or of bethlehem. apparently multiple guesses turn my karma bad, so I don't want to go guess-happy on this one. also, do we know if the writers are different than the speakers?

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Inari
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 		Jesus could also just be "Jesus", or possibly "Jesus of Nazareth". I don't know if I should spoiler the following?

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Adi Da can currently be addressed in a few ways:
Avatar Adi Da Samraj
Adi Da Samraj
Adi Da

And has apparently gone by many other names in the past:
Franklin Albert Jones
Bubba Free John
Da Free John
Dau Loloma
Da Love-Ananda
Da Avadhoota
Da Kalki
Da Avabhasa

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Da and http://names.adidam.org/home.htm)

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adi_Da cited its source as: Scientific Proof of the Existence of God Will Soon Be Announced by the White House!
http://www.adidam.org/download/ lists it as as Transcendental Being Scientific Proof of the Existence of God Will Soon Be Announced by the White House, and the author is listed as Avatar Adi Da Samraj. However, this appears to have been previously published as a book under the name Da Free John: http://www.dabase.org/proof.htm


So I guess we have some keybashing ahead of us...

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Inari
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 		Well, it's none of the following:
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Abd Al-Muni'm Abu Al-Futuh
Jesus
Adi Da
Nostradamus
Thich Nhat Hanh

Dr. Abd Al-Muni'm Abu Al-Futuh
Jesus
Adi Da
Nostradamus
Thich Nhat Hanh

Dr. Abd Al-Muni'm Abu Al-Futuh
Jesus
Adi Da Samraj
Nostradamus
Thich Nhat Hanh

Abd Al-Muni'm Abu Al-Futuh
Jesus
Adi Da Samraj
Nostradamus
Thich Nhat Hanh

Abd Al-Muni'm Abu Al-Futuh
Jesus
Adi Da
Nostradamus
Nhat Hanh

Abd Al-Munim Abu Al-Futuh
Jesus
Adi Da
Nostradamus
Nhat Hanh


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plikma
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WolfHawk wrote:
It's on the lowest, individual island on the Blue District map.


I haven't got the second dot there. Some things to bear in mind;

1) Do you have to be green to see this?
2) Do you have to have solved "Sign Language"? (Although no solution is posted here app. 2 people have).

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morelaak
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 		yea, you prolly have to be green to see it.

sign language refers to thwarting the underground's plans, a decidedly red angle. however, there is no real affiliation for the church.

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as to the jesus christ angle... a couple things... could it be God Himself? they are one and the same... also, could it be one of the different names we've given to the unknown authors? (damn, i'm having a whole lot of trouble remembering them... i know there's three...)


and on another note, FINALLY SOME PUZZLES. maybe now i can get back into this... Razz

Morelaak

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kayte.meyer
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 		Answer to this one, yeah!!!
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1. Dr. Abd Al-Muni'm Abu Al-Futuh
2. Jesus
3. Adi Da
4. Nostradamus
5. Nhat Hanh


This answer worked for me, so hopefully that means there isn't a glitch!!!

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 		worked for me too, so looks like we're golden on this one.

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 		And me. I amended the thread title accordingly.
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The light at the end of the tunnel may be the headlight of an oncoming train.

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AndyTheGeeky
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 		A "hint"
Google can do wonders...

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