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[FANART] [OOG] New Trailer On YouTube
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Ryomi
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 		I'm going to say fake for two reasons....

The guy who posted this on youtube, joined today and hasn't posted any videos other than this one... but i could understand that he would do that for personal security issues.

reason 2: why would you go from a trailer being called "the best trailer ever" to a trailer that sucks soooooooooooooooo bad!

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disposablefilm
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 		Field Reporter, "home video camera"
WOW! I've seen this a a few times...and I can't make up my mind. Heres why:
1. We do know that there were pages for auditions that were found for a "field reporter". Is this that same reporter piece?
2. Remember, this is all done in the perspective of us watching through a camera, this would totally play into it.
3. Paramount wouldn't have it taken down so fast if it just showed up today. They are slow to the draw, so I wouldn't expect this to be pulled down anytime soon.

Just my 2 cents.

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I just...

Whoever did that has plenty of good material to work with, some we all have access to (the roar, the "music" from the last few seconds/trailer info) and some that looks new (a new angle of the same type of branching explosion).

But if its real... why bother?
I could even see this as a tv commercial, maybe, but in a movie? As the follow up to one of the most intruiging trailers ever made?

In the grand scheme of things, its footage that likely wouldn't be in the movie, and it adds ziiiilch to our knowledge. New characters? Nope. T shirts, haunting images, good acting? Sorry.

It's just...
:shakes head:


I think the one thing that got me going "oh man no way" was not just that no one had phoned the police saying "the statue of liberty's head asploded!", but that despite power outages across the city... the lights are ALL on behind her.


I've gone on record as a skeptic around here before. I really don't want to again. It's a little too easy to have a perfect track record when everything here is (increasingly brilliant) fan creations.
I'd really hope I'm wrong about this being a fake.
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 		PS.

According to the timeline made from the photos at 1-18-08.com, soldiers were in full force by 1 am. This video, at 1:58 am, says the national guard are just now being called in.

It's also TWO HOURS after the first explosion.

Thats just sloppy journalism.

EDIT: despite the false leads, I have to say I am increasingly impressed by the level of fan output here. We'll have ourselves a full fan-made movie by next month.

Edit yet again: Not only that, but their "footage recorded earlier" implies the cameras were running at 12:30 (time of explosion, God only knows why they were recording the skyline, from a roof) but that they didn't start recording until an hour and a half later.
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disposablefilm
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 		P.s. to Duckie
Duckie -- great reply.

I agree with you and I disagree.

Why do I agree:
We don't learn much here. If it were JJ, he'd give us some nuggets.

Why do I disagree:
-Let's think of the media when 9/11 happened. When the 1st tower fell, they thought it was another explosion. It took them a few more minutes to realize it was the actually bldg that had fallen.

It's 1am in the morning, no one's up, news is pouring in, there is chaos. I could see how this trailer would make me think that NY is taken over by the chaos and the information isn't flowing as it should.

Thoughts?

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 		Re: P.s. to Duckie
disposablefilm wrote:
Duckie -- great reply.

Why do I disagree:
-Let's think of the media when 9/11 happened. When the 1st tower fell, they thought it was another explosion. It took them a few more minutes to realize it was the actually bldg that had fallen.

Thoughts?


Good point there. I was in DC, and the news actually was coming in staticy, with reports of car bombs all over the city, bombs near but not in the pentagon, etc. It took a few hours to sort out.

My problem is that, in what we know of the movie so far, that panic is NOT quite happening in the NY1 newsroom. Watch the real trailer again.
They've got reports just now pouring in, at 12:30 am. within just a few minutes they know: there was an explosion, there was an animal roar, there is panic on the streets. they knew this in moments.

And two hours later, that's ALL they know?

Listen, they're either the most awesome news team in the world, according to the real trailer, or less-than-average journalists according to the second one. I refuse to think it'd be both ways.

Sorry, I don't buy it.

I really do need to applaud whoever made it, though, and would encourage them to expand some of their ideas-- so long as they make it clear that its fan work.

EDIT: and, finally, this trailer would basically mean that an hour and 1/2 of the movie (if done blair witch style) will be the characters standing around going "wow, that was weird. Guess we should leave the city now, before that thing comes and knocks down a building or two. I hope the brief power outage didn't render the subway unusable!"
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 		Part of me wants this to be real. We haven't had anything in sooooo long. So if it indeed is a "hoax"...I say BRAVO! And let them keep doing stuff, JJ obviously isn't, so if this is a fake trailer (which I think it is) then I say "Keep 'em comin!"

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 		One. Last. Thing.
If I wasn't convinced before, the fact that the letterboxing jumps around near the end of the video pretty much seals the deal.

That was fun while it lasted.

Who else has interesting fan stuff?
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Ryomi
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disposablefilm wrote:
Part of me wants this to be real. We haven't had anything in sooooo long. So if it indeed is a "hoax"...I say BRAVO! And let them keep doing stuff, JJ obviously isn't, so if this is a fake trailer (which I think it is) then I say "Keep 'em comin!"


no part of you should want this to be real... its a crappy trailer, with bad acting and no clues what so ever! I pray this is fake because if its real then i'm quiting and waiting for it to come on dvd.

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 		Yeah the tag thingy does jump around a lot, plus i see the fireworks thing you guys were talking about. What was interesting, editing-wise, Is how they made the explosion look exactly the same as the first one *the real one*, except this time they made it look like it was at a different angle. So are they trying to imply that there's two explosions because this one occures later than the one at Robs party.....I think. And naturally I dont think someone would think of a roar...I mean nobody is going to first imagine "Hey that sounded like the roar of a pissed off monster from the deep ocean....." They'll think "omg we're being attacked by terrorists" or something. No matter how roar-like it sounds im pretty sure for majority of people that'll be the first thought. And why does the camera fade in and out?


*shrugs*


I say Fake.

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 		Aight, this is painfully fake. I agree, well done to those who made it. But man, this hoax thing kills me when i think something new comes, I get excited, and then bam...its fake. Not to be vulgar, but its like half a blowjob. (sorry but I wanted to explain my feelings) I just think we should chill out with the fake things and enjoy the real stuff. So stop making them, or just come out as fan art cause its killing me.

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 		 Ooooh, I want..
... It to be the real deal - a companion to the first teaser! Plz, plz, plz let it be teh real dealz (*in cheeseburgerz dialect*)..! Foily! ...

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 		I am sad to say I think this is much like the bus stop images, a fake all over again. I think it's a cleverly done fake, but not so well executed. I have many reasons to believe this...
Kraker wrote:

And in the last picture, the emergency broadcast system picture appears, but the place, date, and time icons remain?

Indeed that pegged the cheesy meter for me. Does any Emergency Broadcast System logo even look like that? The tone system has changed too, has everyone missed that? They are using the alert tone which is now preceded by those modem sounding tones (SAME header), and it's now known as the Emergency Alert System- and has been for 10 years. Would a studio trying to present something past the current date screw up and use something that outdated? What are the chances of EAS coming on right at that instant? Very unlikely, it's more like a tool to make it seem more dramatic. In a chaotic situation like that, it's more likely you'd see a cut back to the studios when they realized they'd lost feed, and the EAS would come in when it was deployed as a unified signal, which EAS is supposed to be.

The breaks to static are really crude effects, we saw better in the original trailer. Do you really think the finish quality would get worse? Even the explosions were better.

That person is from the best I can tell a very close lookalike to the reporter, but Jill Scott doesn't look so unique as to be hard to find a lookalike.

Someone already pointed out the timestamp doesn't change. Convenient that the broadcast of the reporter breaks up at 1 minute even, but the chiron and supposed EBS logo go on for another second. (Video we actually see of the 'coverage' starts 8 seconds into the video.)

Yes, it's really bad acting, especially from a reporter talking to someone with a coat draped casually over their shoulder which they manage to have a nice even coating of dust on just like is on their head and face. Notice a distinct lack of emergency lights as you hear sirens go by. Compare that to a real video of such a situation. Also note that the sirens don't manage to drown out the dialog, yet the compression of a mic would usually pic that up. I'm sure you've all seen reports at locations where this happens.

Movie studios are professionals that make sure things look VERY real by making sure details are there. All these errors and lack of refinement are more like the work of a skilled amateur.

I'd also like to note that we'd probably see something new and important in a subsequent trailer, else why bother to release one? We'd also probably see some of the actors/characters so we'd have something to relate to the first trailer. We see none of that.

The timestamp makes it 1:58 AM. In the party we saw a reporter already talking about something being up, and in 1.5 hours I think they'd have learned way more. We knew about the events of 9/11 within an hour of them happening, as in footage from many sources, still images, and reporters fully on scene.

Oh, and the use of the word 'roar' is suspicious. WE the fans have been using that word, and it's sort of a Pavlovian trigger. It's just playing upon the wishes of fans to make it sound plausible.

Sorry, I'm with kraker. I'm just wondering if this was made as a prank, or by someone trying to feel skilled, or someone trying to get their 15 minutes.
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mjames
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 		Long-time reader, first-time poster...

I like it. The actress does look alot like Jill Scott, but the scenes of destruction look fake.

The time-line problems are there, but doesn't necessarily mean we'd be watching an hour-and-a-half of "hey let's run away", they can turn the cameras off, and it was shown in the trailer that they do occasionally. And in the "Blair-Witch" style, they could turn off the cameras during intense sequences (which is one way in which he might keep us from seeing the monster for the majority of the film).

I still am leaning towards fake, but they are going to be facing copyright issues.

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 		FAKE.

Clever, but fake.

No doubt about it. The whole thing, from the acting, the dialogue, the 'effects' - with all due respect to the people behind this, it's too amateur. Again, all due respect - it's impressive for being a fake, but it's absolutely, positively, and most definitely: Fake.

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