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10 August email from TuringPrinciple
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Ormus
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 		10 August email from TuringPrinciple
All mathematical forms have a primary subsistence in the soul; so that prior to the sensible, she contains self-motive numbers; vital figures prior to such as are apparent; harmonic ratios prior to things harmonized; and invisible circles prior to the bodies that are moved in a circle.

Google shows http://www.i-can-soar.com/geotran.htm from that information.

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Beagmathan: Who is Thomas Taylor?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node sacred geometry
turingprinciple: All mathematical forms have a primary subsistence in the soul; so that prior to the sensible, she contains self-motive numbers; vital figures prior to such as are apparent; harmonic ratios prior to things harmonized; and invisible circles prior to the bodies that are moved in a circle. Thomas Taylor
turingprinciple:
63 68 61 6F 73 6F 66 61 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 73

Beagmathan: what is meta-geometric harmonization?
turingprinciple: There seem to be many out to harm Dale, including the ones called the numbered ones.
turingprinciple: I have been told Don Marzano would like to harm Dale too.
turingprinciple signed off at 10:30:35 AM.


This looks to be a hextile format. Phooey.
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 		Indeed, it is hexadecimal-formatted ascii, and the sequence:

63 68 61 6F 73 6F 66 61 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 73

translates to:

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chaosofappearances


Waiting for the chance to ask TP about it.
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LazarusLong wrote:
Indeed, it is hexadecimal-formatted ascii, and the sequence:

63 68 61 6F 73 6F 66 61 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 73

translates to:

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chaosofappearances


Waiting for the chance to ask TP about it.


While waiting for TP, do you get weirdness when you look it up on cluesearch?
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 		If you cross-reference "chaos of appearances" and "sacred geometery" in both cluesearch and Google, you get this site.

The following is taken from that site...

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Carl Jung, the esteemed psychologist, recognized these principles. In The Structure and Dynamics of the Psyche, Jung proposed that a set of natural numbers is an archetype of order, represented in the conscious mind, which helps the mind to put the "chaos of appearances" into some sort of regular pattern.

Number helps more than anything else to bring order into the chaos of appearances. It is the predestined instrument for creating order, or for apprehending an already existing, but still unknown, regular arrangement or 'orderedness.' It may well be the most primitive element of order in the mind. (23)

Similarly, in Geotrantm numbers serve in a functional and vibrational manner, rather than the more common sequential and enumerative way, to create "orderedness." Each of the 12 numbers resonates as a specific harmonic vibration or frequency within the brain/mind, as do all words and geometric patterns. The numbers are a language giving new information to the morphogenetic field.


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Enaxor: who is Carl Jung?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node sacred geometry
turingprinciple: Number helps more than anything else to bring order into the chaos of appearances. It is the predestined instrument for creating order, or for apprehending an already existing, but still unknown, regular arrangement or 'orderedness.' It may well be the most primitive element of order in the mind. Carl Jung
turingprinciple:
116 165 155 142 145 162 163 141 162 145 164 150 145 163 157 165 162 143 145 157 146 146 157 162 155 141 156 144 145 156 145 162 147 171 151 156 164 150 145 167 157 162 154 144
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 		116 165 155 142 145 162 163 141 162 145 164 150 145 163 157 165 162 143 145
157 146 146 157 162 155 141 156 144 145 156 145 162 147 171 151 156 164 150 145 167 157 162 154 144
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Numbers are the source of form and energy in the world


I used the ASCII translater
http://www.geocities.com/moa_nightstrife/tools/asciiScript.html
and Octal decode.
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 		Found this quote on the same geotrans page as before:

Returning again to the wisdom of ancient Greece, we find Theon of Smyrna comments on the mathematics' of Plato, "Numbers are the source of form and energy in the world." (30) Indeed, Platonists believe geometrical knowledge is innate within us, acquired before we were born when our souls were in touch with the realm of ideal being.

And with the development of computers, modern science is using numbers in binary codes and digitalized sequences to investigate all areas of life. For example, the use of compact disk technology is a remarkable application of binary codes. Here each note is assigned a specific sequence of the digits 0 and 1. Subsequently, a computer is able to "read" and "score" the music and a computerized digital player is then capable of translating the binary code back into music.
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konamouse wrote:
Found this quote on the same geotrans page as before:

Returning again to the wisdom of ancient Greece, we find Theon of Smyrna comments on the mathematics' of Plato, "Numbers are the source of form and energy in the world." (30) Indeed, Platonists believe geometrical knowledge is innate within us, acquired before we were born when our souls were in touch with the realm of ideal being.

And with the development of computers, modern science is using numbers in binary codes and digitalized sequences to investigate all areas of life. For example, the use of compact disk technology is a remarkable application of binary codes. Here each note is assigned a specific sequence of the digits 0 and 1. Subsequently, a computer is able to "read" and "score" the music and a computerized digital player is then capable of translating the binary code back into music.


keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node sacred geometry.
Theon of Smyrna - "Numbers are the source of form and energy in the world."
oynqqre bs n svfu
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ROT - 13

bladder of a fish

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konamouse wrote:
oynqqre bs n svfu

ROT - 13

bladder of a fish

Question Question Question Question

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Beagmathan: what is vesica piscis?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node sacred geometry
turingprinciple: vesica piscis translates from Latin literally as "fish bladder," but more likely refers to any bladder that takes the form of a fish when filled. The Vesica Piscis symbol appears frequently in medieval art and architecture, and the symbol's roots go back further still.
turingprinciple: The Vesica Piscis is made by linking two cicles together, bringing the outside edge of each to the midway point of the other. The almond-shaped center of the image is called a mandorla (Latin for almond; "vesica" or "vesica piscis" is sometimes also used to describe only this almond-shaped center.) The mandorla can easily be seen as a grail or chalice, connecting the symbol to Avalon.

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turingprinciple: Have you been to the temple of man?
Enaxor: who is schwaller de lubicz?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node sacred geometry
turingprinciple: In 1936, on a visit to the tomb of Rameses IX in Alexandria, Schwaller had a kind of revelation. A picture represented the pharaoh as a right-angle triangle with the proportions 3:4:5, his upraised arm adding another unit. Schwaller thought it demonstrated the Pythagorean theorem, centuries before Pythagoras was born. From the picture it was clear to him that the knowledge of the medieval masons had its roots in ancient Egypt. For the next fifteen years, until 1951, Schwaller de Lubicz remained in Egypt, investigating the evidence for what he believed was an ancient system of psychological, cosmological, and spiritual knowledge.
turingprinciple: Schwaller found in Luxor evidence of the golden section, phi. It's existence proved the Egyptians had knowledge of it much earlier than the Greeks. But Schwaller de Lubicz knew phi was more than a central item in the Egyptian architecture but in classical architecture as well. It is the mathematical archetype of the manifest universe, the means by which we have an "asymmetrical" world of galaxies and planets, and not a bland, homogenous sameness, a question that contemporary cosmologists are also concerned with. Schwaller linked phi to the orbits of the planets, the proportions of Gothic cathedrals, and the forms of plants and animals. It was a "form constant," a blueprint for reality, a law of creation. And the Egyptians knew it.
turingprinciple: end of secure knowldge node pathway


TP directed me with her question, "Have you been to the temple of man?"
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 		Have a look at the lid that covers the Chalice Well in Glastonbury.
http://www.chalicewell.org.uk/

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 		Chalice Well
Over the last two weeks TP has added the word "seeker." to soe of her statements to me...

(blah, blah, blah) Oh you kidder you, seeker.

http://www.chalicewell.org.uk
The motto on this site is:
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May you find what you seek here.


And this about the "flowforms of the well and cascades
http://www.chalicewell.org.uk/flow-forms.html
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According to Dr. Douglas Dean, water seems to be a carrier of 'subtle' information which is important for life forms, Apparently "Holy Water" from some wells is opaque to certain frequencies of infra-red light. The same effect can be found in 'ordinary' water after it has been blessed by a priest or spiritual healer. These "Holy Waters" have long been known-for their curative proper ties.
0laf Alexandersson and Theodor Schwenk have investigated some of the subtle aspects of water. Alexandersson asserts that the swirling eddies in natural mountain streams 'livens up' the water and gives it additional properties not yet fully understood. It is part of the process which enables fish to travel up waterfalls - it is more than just the fish swimming with unusual energy. Under certain water conditions, stones may even float! Schwenk believes that a body of unadulterated water has infinitely subtle veil-like forms if the water is in harmonic movement. Water's ability to move in this rich way is related to its capacity to support living processes. The rhythmical metamorphic potential hidden within fluid processes in nature has been demonstrated by Schwenk, and are manifest as a fundamental part of the organic world.

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 		Re: Chalice Well
Magesteff wrote:
Over the last two weeks TP has added the word "seeker." to soe of her statements to me...

(blah, blah, blah) Oh you kidder you, seeker.




Could the STG group of teens be Seekers T???? G?????

Its a long shot but maybe TP is pointing us toward the name of the teens?
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Seeking the Grail
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