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just as a curious sidenote, it looks to me like the symbol itself is a red herring, and if that's the case, then we've got an fascinatingly complete inversion of the traditional understanding of communication. in most cases, corruption is an extraneous element that obscures the message. in this case, however, the obvious message, the symbol, obscures the corruption that composes the actual message by diverting attention from it.

this doesn't really pertain that strongly to the game itself, it's just fascinating from a semiotic standpoint.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:03 pm

Nereus_Theophilus · Unfettered Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 456 Location: Canada

Ok so I finished researching Khan, and I hate to say this, I don't think he is our guy.

I say this because he was under house arrest till earlier this year and now he has a security detail watch his movements. This does not bode well to it being him.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:27 pm

sapphira

A.Q.?

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:28 am

Salsaman1991

Re: A.Q.?

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:03 am

Nereus_Theophilus · Unfettered Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 456 Location: Canada

Re: A.Q.?

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:19 am

Salsaman1991

Re: A.Q.?

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:38 am

Nereus_Theophilus · Unfettered Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 456 Location: Canada

Re: A.Q.?

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:14 pm

JohnJimJoeBob · Boot Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 56

With the lack of legal action that the Pakistani government has taken against Khan, the possibility of their knowledge of and participation in his actions prior to his public confession, and his immense popularity in his country, I'm tempted to believe that even if Khan did have a security detail following him, the Pakistani government would not prevent him from meeting with Khalid to discuss nuclear weaponry.

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:51 pm

Nereus_Theophilus · Unfettered Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 456 Location: Canada

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:46 pm

Cr0ybot

JohnJimJoeBob beat me to it; I was going to point out the same thing.

Though JC didn't quite phrase it so that A.Q. must be one guy.

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:37 pm

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**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:50 pm

Kortheal · Boot Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 53

Osama Bin Laden, I doubt, would be meeting with ANYBODY at this time. The man is on Dialysis and mobility is a problem. To meet with the prince at those coordinates (Which were what, an abandoned nuclear power station in Pakistan?) would be far too strenuous for a man who has to go through treatment every few days. There's too big a price on his head for him to fly, and too far to travel for him to go by ground. Afganistan is land locked, so he couldn't SAIL to pakistan. Getting there is the problem for a 6'5" Afgani who is as I say again...on Dialysis. While it may be a perfect match to the X's and while I'm saying it's not impossible. I'm saying that there is too heavy a price on his head right now for him to be moving around in the open.

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:04 pm

Kortheal · Boot Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 53

Did a little digging on the Chasma Nuclear Power Plant in Pakistan, you know the one that A.Q. Khan helped with.

Turns out it's designed from a nuclear prototype bought from China, who was supplying Pakistan with materials to build and operate the reactors for five reloading stages. Odd thing is...it's rumored that since the '80's when the US put out that whole nuclear test ban that Pakistan had been developing nuclear weapons grade plutonium and uranium in their refining facilities (Which was funded by none other than China). The US put a trade embargo on Pakistan and eventually restricted all aid to Pakistan entirely. After a while Pakistan's nuclear program began to suffer because the government in charge at the time of the embargo pulled 60% of the nuclear research money JUST to appeal to the US.
Once the US lifted the embargo it seems that government changed hands between leading officials and the funding was returned, and this time it seemed that American investors seemed to even bid into the research program to win the contract for reactor designs.

...I dunno...but the whole Pakistan, China, Pakistan playing shady nuclear research stuff behind US backs is kinda fishy!

**Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:31 pm

Darren Knight

True True, Osama Bin Laden is pretty unlikly but a great guess. The nucleur power plant and China is a great lead seeing how this incident is linked to china somehow.

Could this be the link or is it something to do with 'red monday'?
Good thing we get our emails today.

**Posted:** Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:48 am

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Kortheal · Boot Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 53

Red Monday has MANY links in this...

Red Monday was a court case dealing with the end of the Mcarthyist Communist Witch Hunts way back in the 50's

China is a communist country
China's military is the RED army

What the "monday" part has to do with anything...I dunno

**Posted:** Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:46 am