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[SPEC] Dead-End Boneyard - Leaps of faith and other random..
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Eddy
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[SPEC] Dead-End Boneyard - Leaps of faith and other random..
bits of research that you'd given up on, but still hold promise? Maybe?

If you're anything like me, you've spent uncounted hours investigating all sorts of speculative ideas and logical leaps. And even thought they didn't result in anything concrete, the kernel of the idea, the spark that first set you to looking into something remains, if nothing else, curious.

Most of us don't want to be seen as posting every random theory that pops into our head. However, what if we had permission? What if there was a thread that was pessimistic by definition, where it was understood that contributions to it were the derelict and orphaned remnants of stuff we never really had high hopes for to begin with, but were interesting nonetheless?

I recall a particular story on the local TV news from when I was a kid. It was of a man who found a large gold nugget (the size of a man's hand) just sitting along the lakeshore. I recall the anchorwoman speculating aloud about how many people must have just passed the nugget by and even picked it up only to toss it before that particular man noticed it for what it was. The anchorman quipped sarcastically that he couldn't imagine anyone overlooking that particular rock.

The way I figure it, the next big break could very well be a found down a line of inquiry that one or more of us has pursued at one time or anther, but gave up on somewhere short of it paying off. My suspicion is that if those lines of reasoning are posted, maybe a fresh set of eyes can finish what someone else started but gave up on.

So, show me yours and I'll show you mine.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:08 pm
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MonTag
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id say the faint number's on the we'll miss you sign at the party, no one ever seemed to definitevly get any numbers from it, and doughtnut circle guy.

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mhovis
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Those damn hands on the Slusho store page!

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Eddy
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Alright. Here's one that's still bugging me even though I'm totally burned out on it.

With the addition of Tagruato Corp. and their drilling activities, I'm that much more inclined to accept John Murphy's 1/3 plot outline as legitimate. I will say it's less "ugh" inspiring now that I've had time to get used to it, and now that it looks like the makers are going to at least attempt to give is a hard science fiction edge.

With the hard sf stuff in mind, I decided to try and divine one possible name for the movie. In particular, and with the global warming metaphor in mind, I started connecting mass extinction events, Pangaea--mid-Atlantic ridge, etc. I learned a lot about geology and extinction-level events, but the closest I got to a name for the movie was The Seventh Extinction (i.e. the one that buries man). So anyway, I still get the sense that I'm missing something.

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firelight
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how about if the friend ID numbers of all the myspace characters have some type of algorithmic or numerical relationship. I read somewhere one of them is in the form of a geometric progression...

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lighter
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Attempting random pwords for the jamie & teddy site, each wrong entry produced the "incorrect password please enter correct..."screen, but typing in teddy2 yielded a blank screen the first time. im sure my computer just pooped out, but, whatever. Also, the slusho 7's surnames,(family crests, coat of arms, mottos) were mildly interesting in regards to how the story may unfold...(diamond-i learn to succour the distressed; Hawkins-always ready;mcintyre-thru difficulties; etc). Extremophiles in general; the words:"bear" and "hotness" pertaining to Jamie; i could go on for a while. I appreciate all the brain power you folks have put into this. Here's to hoping this movie is one to remember.

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R30028
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i'm willing to bet that anagrams and intricate number combinations/analysis have NOTHING to do with the movie or clues. most likely stuff will be pretty straightforward and out in the open

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firelight
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longshot here, but right now we need all we can find...

anagrams for tagruato= 'Gar At Out', 'Gar Tau To'


According to WordWeb:

Gar = Primitive predaceous North American fish covered with hard scales and having long jaws with needlelike teeth

At = A highly unstable radioactive element (the heaviest of the halogen series); a decay product of uranium and thorium

Tau = The 19th letter of the Greek alphabet

Gar [is] out - let out? Disturbed? Moved from resting place?
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CloverfieldClues.com
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firelight wrote:
longshot here, but right now we need all we can find...

anagrams for tagruato= 'Gar At Out', 'Gar Tau To'


How about A TORTUGA?

TORTUGA is Spanish for Turtle Exclamation

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firelight
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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
firelight wrote:
longshot here, but right now we need all we can find...

anagrams for tagruato= 'Gar At Out', 'Gar Tau To'


How about A TORTUGA?

TORTUGA is Spanish for Turtle Exclamation


interesting... checkout the image on tortuga.com

also there is a 'exploringourworld.com' but looks OOG.
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ancient Chinese riddle: is it better to have a dark, cloudless sky or a cloudy sky during daylight? The answer?.... Well you can't see clouds if it is dark...

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followed the above to 'http://www.lawoftime.org/home.html' looks odd and like an ARG sort of page but I think it is OO this G.
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ancient Chinese riddle: is it better to have a dark, cloudless sky or a cloudy sky during daylight? The answer?.... Well you can't see clouds if it is dark...

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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
firelight wrote:
longshot here, but right now we need all we can find...

anagrams for tagruato= 'Gar At Out', 'Gar Tau To'


How about A TORTUGA?

TORTUGA is Spanish for Turtle Exclamation


This might not be too far fetched.

I don't have the pic/thread handy, but someone mirrored the 1-18-08 poster and that sum of the images revealed a turtle amongst the buildings and then another turtle in the sky.

Also, theres that odd "shape" of turtle head in the clouds (unmirrored).

Nevertheless, I'm anticipating some sort of whacked-out monster. Turtle or not.

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Here's mine.

It popped into my mind after the discovery of the Tagruato drilling, and it would make sense.

Gas Hydrates.
They're frozen gases and minerals at the bottom of the sea floor. They contain many different substances, and are often found near petroleum chambers on ocean bottoms.

The ingredients in the chambers have to be kept frozen, and resemble snow when brought to the surface. If not kept this way, they dissolve into powder and gas, and separate. This seems to point directly to the frozen ingredient in Slusho my fellow ARGers.
Just a thought, and they haven't been posted here before.

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Eddy
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More on theoretical metaphorical parallels and guessing at what you might expect to find. The sea nectar (secret ingredient) analogous to oil/fossil fuels, while unsubstantiated, is nevertheless hard to escape. Given the nectar's apparent curative effects (among others), it also parallels fossil fuels in that while not addictive, not the sort of thing humanity is likely to wean itself of regardless of whether it gives rise to monsters from the deep. With that in mind and in this day and age, what other fictional roles could you expect to be filled/useful to the story?

The first one that comes to my mind is the environmentalist (or group) taking issue with Taguato's deep sea drilling practices. Could be a blog, could be a website, could be a marine biologist or disgruntled ex-employee who knows the true extent of Taguato's environmental disregard not to mention its questionable bioethics... Basically, a character whose warnings, while prescient, only get attention after the disaster has happened, i.e. serve to explain what happened and why.

A black-market in sea nectar? There sure as hell would be one if it were real.

A cult of sea nectar devotees or group of sea nectar supremacists?

Etc.

That said, I do get the sense that the ARG is still catching up with its own success, so while I think it makes sense to at least look for other metaphorically consistent real world parallels, I sorta doubt the people charged with creating them have the time to do it justice.

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Dr. Awkward
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Eddy wrote:
More on theoretical metaphorical parallels and guessing at what you might expect to find. The sea nectar (secret ingredient) analogous to oil/fossil fuels, while unsubstantiated, is nevertheless hard to escape.

This evasive concrete evidence is what sets the ominous tone...we know WTF's goin' down, but we can't prove it. Twisted Evil

I'm partial to the idea of an archeological discovery caused by the Tagruato Corp. while drilling and/or excavating … peek

Here's some more theoretical metaphor that may precurse that speculation...

It seems Slusho! just markets the driving force of the film...a relentless attempt to monopolize and exploit a new and miraculous "cure-all" for mankind, kaitei no mitsu (or seabed honey).

It's properties are studied and implemented into every facet of modern technology and life causing the growing subsidiaries of the Tagruato Corp. and unheard of wealth. The likes of which parallel's the most successful petroleum oil tycoons.

The drilling platforms, I speculate, extract this newly found "fossil fuel" for the human body as well as petroleum oil. Due to the seabed honey's fantastic properties in terms of health, etc., and the addictive consumerism that ensues, kaitei no mitsu becomes something that mankind cannot live without.

Their is great profits to be made from this evidenced by all the patents and exclusivity of the research, application technologies, and the equipment the Tagruato Corp. uses for it's extraction from untapped, sub-prehistoric deep sea levels. As well as the unequivocal financial incentive for those who choose to assign their career loyalty to Tagruato.

But as oil was discovered and gave way to an industrial revolution that mankind did not calculate the consequences of (global warming, war, etc.)...the result of the invasive course of events leading to the exploitation of the "secret ingredient" will reflect similar and ironic catastrophe.

The effects of which will shake all of mankind.

Any takers…
Feel free to expound…
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