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McPhearson
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Umm... Please examine....

I am absolutely confused. Please look at the data below, and come to your own conclusions.

PARAFFUN.COM WHOIS (NOTE: PARAFFUN.COM REDIRECTS TO CLOVERFIELDCLUES.COM)

Registrant:
Naoyuki Kagashima
18 Palace Plaza
36-40-10
Marunouchi, Tokyo 118-8336
Japan

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: PARAFFUN.COM
Created on: 30-Sep-07
Expires on: 30-Sep-08
Last Updated on: 30-Sep-07

Administrative Contact:
Kagashima, Naoyuki
18 Palace Plaza
36-40-10
Marunouchi, Tokyo 118-8336
Japan
5805681 Fax -- 1111111

Technical Contact:
Kagashima, Naoyuki
18 Palace Plaza
36-40-10
Marunouchi, Tokyo 118-8336
Japan
5805681 Fax -- 1111111

Domain servers in listed order:
NS39.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS40.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

SLUSHO.JP WHOIS

Domain Information:
[Domain Name] SLUSHO.JP

[Registrant] Satoshi Kagashima

[Name Server] ns5.secureserver.net
[Name Server] ns6.secureserver.net

[Created on] 2007/06/27
[Expires on] 2008/06/30
[Status] Active
[Last Updated] 2007/07/31 17:33:31 (JST)

Contact Information:
[Name] Satoshi Kagashima
[Email]
[Web Page]
[Postal code] 118-8336
[Postal Address] 18 Palace Plaza
36-40-10 Marunouchi
[Phone] 81.5805681
[Fax] 81.1111111

TAGRUATO.JP WHOIS

Domain Information:
[Domain Name] TAGRUATO.JP

[Registrant] Daiske Kagashima

[Name Server] ns51.domaincontrol.com
[Name Server] ns52.domaincontrol.com

[Created on] 2007/07/25
[Expires on] 2008/07/31
[Status] Active
[Last Updated] 2007/07/25 23:38:22 (JST)

Contact Information:
[Name] Daiske Kagashima
[Email]
[Web Page]
[Postal code]
[Postal Address] 118-8336 Marunouchi
[Phone] 8105805681
[Fax]

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Note, each site is registered under a man with the last name Kagashima, including Paraffun.com, which redirects to Cloverfieldclues.com. What does this mean? And for that matter, why is cloverfieldclues registered under the name Kagashima?

Does this mean that CloverfieldClues made the Tagruato website? Or does it mean that CloverfieldClues was just farting around?

Please, a fresh pair of eyes would be helpful.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:32 am
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Chump Force 1
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I think the guy at Cloverfield clues quickly bought the domain name of one of the subsidiaries mentioned in the Tagruato Corp site once it was discovered and make it a redirect to his site. Smart marketing move, but nothing sinister.

Cloverfield clues is a regular poster on Unfiction, I'm sure he'll explain.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:38 am
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McPhearson
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I'm referring to the fact that one of the Kagashima's is the registrant of Paraffun.com. Does that mean that CloverfieldClues is making an inside joke, or that he might have made the Tagruato website too?

I'm really confused. I hope somebody explains.

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Chump Force 1
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McPhearson wrote:
I'm referring to the fact that one of the Kagashima's is the registrant of Paraffun.com. Does that mean that CloverfieldClues is making an inside joke, or that he might have made the Tagruato website too?

I'm really confused. I hope somebody explains.


I think he's poking fun. If I'm not mistaken, the registrants for 1-18-08.com are made up names with a nod to Lost. I don't know specifics of registering a site, but it sounds like you can put in fictitious info.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:02 am
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Doesn't this just hinder our efforts more. I'm geting rather tired of false leads thanks to fans registering and creating false websites, especially if it's for marketing.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:38 am
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HaloKitty7
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Paraffun

Hey, check out this URL:
http://whois.domaintools.com/paraffun.com

Or have a look to the picture.
There are some Domains registered on GoDaddy... the Registrar is no evidence but it could be a clue to make out more of these "fakes".
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:11 am
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jfiscus
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I think the reason they (cloverfieldclues) used godaddy.com is because it's a cheap and dependable domain registrar. It's who I use for my personal sites. It doesn't matter where a company purchases their domain name through, but it would make sense for them to purchase all of them through the same company for billing/management reasons.

You can also see that the domain paraffun.com was just registered, as opposed to the other two being registered in July.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:58 am
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CloverfieldClues.com
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Re: Umm... Please examine....

McPhearson wrote:
I am absolutely confused. Please look at the data below, and come to your own conclusions.
...
Note, each site is registered under a man with the last name Kagashima, including Paraffun.com, which redirects to Cloverfieldclues.com. What does this mean? And for that matter, why is cloverfieldclues registered under the name Kagashima?

Does this mean that CloverfieldClues made the Tagruato website? Or does it mean that CloverfieldClues was just farting around?


Good find McPhearson. Smile

You're not the first to notice that the domain points to my website, but you are the first to check the whois.

I am certainly not trying to trick anyone into thinking that my blog is "in-game". If I wanted to trick people, I would have made a fake site.

The point of this experiment is to prove that you can't trust the WHOIS info, because it can be changed to whatever you want. The fact that a website's WHOIS info matches an in-game site, DOES NOT mean anything.

Chump Force 1 wrote:
I think the guy at Cloverfield clues quickly bought the domain name of one of the subsidiaries mentioned in the Tagruato Corp site once it was discovered and make it a redirect to his site. Smart marketing move, but nothing sinister.

Cloverfield clues is a regular poster on Unfiction, I'm sure he'll explain.


You are correct sir! Also, I wanted to prevent someone else from gamejacking it.

jfiscus wrote:
I think the reason they (cloverfieldclues) used godaddy.com is because it's a cheap and dependable domain registrar.


Yep. It also happens to be where the "in-game" sites are registered too. I would have also registered paraffun.jp, but that costs $99!

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MrToasty
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You'll notice that Dennis (CloverfieldClues) also registered ParaffunWax.com and used his real registrant information there.

http://whois.domaintools.com/paraffunwax.com

Should anyone think something sinister was afoot, he could have just as easily used the same spoofed registrant info there but didn't.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:15 am
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jojo
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Hmmm, so does this mean we won't be getting a separate paraffun website? Or will it be something random like paraffunwaxisawesome.jp?? It seems odd for them to leave those obvious ones out there for potential gamejackers to use -- good thing cloverfield clues is wise enough to snatch them up first.

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jojo wrote:
Hmmm, so does this mean we won't be getting a separate paraffun website...

It sure does seem that way more and more with each passing day...
I hope this isn't true, it'll just fuel these thoughts that I had last night. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:37 pm
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CloverfieldClues.com
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jojo wrote:
Hmmm, so does this mean we won't be getting a separate paraffun website? Or will it be something random like paraffunwaxisawesome.jp?? It seems odd for them to leave those obvious ones out there for potential gamejackers to use


They could always use PARAFFUN.JP... it's not taken. But like I said, it costs $99, so it out of my price range and hopefully any gamejacker too. However, they probably would have already bought these domains if they were going to use them.

Maybe they'll just expand the pages on the Tagruato site itself?

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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
jojo wrote:
Hmmm, so does this mean we won't be getting a separate paraffun website? Or will it be something random like paraffunwaxisawesome.jp?? It seems odd for them to leave those obvious ones out there for potential gamejackers to use


They could always use PARAFFUN.JP... it's not taken. But like I said, it costs $99, so it out of my price range and hopefully any gamejacker too. However, they probably would have already bought these domains if they were going to use them.

Maybe they'll just expand the pages on the Tagruato site itself?


Well, if it wasn't taken, it will most certainly be now...

Another option is subdomains, which I admit I haven't checked.

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MrToasty
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Yeah, checked paraffun.tagruato.jp and nothing.

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CloverfieldClues.com
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Nighthawk wrote:
CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
jojo wrote:
Hmmm, so does this mean we won't be getting a separate paraffun website? Or will it be something random like paraffunwaxisawesome.jp?? It seems odd for them to leave those obvious ones out there for potential gamejackers to use


They could always use PARAFFUN.JP... it's not taken. But like I said, it costs $99, so it out of my price range and hopefully any gamejacker too. However, they probably would have already bought these domains if they were going to use them.

Maybe they'll just expand the pages on the Tagruato site itself?


Well, if it wasn't taken, it will most certainly be now...

Another option is subdomains, which I admit I haven't checked.


You must have missed the $100 part. I'm sure getting your jollies as a gamejacker is fun (ColbyRook?), but it's probably not $100 fun.

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