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[Dr. Awkward]

Re: If I only new then,

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[Nighthawk]

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How did we conclude that we weren't supposed to hack it? Maybe they wanted us to use it to post some images. I think we decided that it shouldn't have been hacked when we realized that there wasn't anything new to be found there?

The point isn't really that they "deserved" to be hacked or that they made it too easy to hack. The point is that the players are trying to figure out what to do because the promotion is all over the place and not giving clear boundaries or directions. How can anyone say for sure that one site is to be hacked and another one isn't? We don't know the answer to that question without trying it, only the designers do.

[Nighthawk]

See my post in poll thread. Don't want to repeat things.

[skullpanda]

I don't agree or disagree with anything yet. But I was wondering when it actually becomes hacking. Don't a lot of args require you to guess passwords?

[Melampus]

[Eddy]

Well, didn't read this entire thread, so this is really just a response to the top post. As someone who has hosted/produced games in the past, nothing was against the rules. This rule (that there are none) is a simple concession that any designer quickly comes to terms with when designing for this medium (the internet). The few times a player has taken advantage of my errors, they earned kudos. You see, it's a game to everyone, even those who are trying to control it. So relax. Your attitude should be that if the producers become upset because someone got the better of them (i.e. they got beat), then those producers are in the wrong line of work. They're either at match for us, or they're not. The idea that we should hold back, practice restraint or even help them to recover their fumbles is insulting to everyone.

[MrToasty]

People bringing JamieAndTeddy.com into the argument got me thinking a bit. Here are just a couple quick questions to ponder, not meant as an argument for or against anything.

1.) Were we really meant to hack the password at JamieAndTeddy.com? It's possible that we brute forced our way in before the PMs could give us a concrete clue that would lead to the password. It was literally two hours from the site being found to the password discovery.

2.) Did we actually brute force the password to JamieAndTeddy.com in the first place? The password was posted by a killroy - posted this one thing and hasn't posted since. It would violate ToS here, but as others have noted in the past there is nothing saying the PMs wouldn't do it. Heck, how many posters here have even taken the time to read anything in the Welcome! box on every page? Anyway, I'll admit that this part is unlikely.

[Eddy]

I'd say Kilroy is a producer helping and encouraging us a bit. And for sure they read this forum. Anyone paying attention long enough eventually finds this place and this place puts all other 1-18-08 sites to shame (once you get used to navigating it)--and as a consequence is the best place to gauge and recalibrate their assumptions about the acuity of the audience.

[SlushoLover]

All of you condoning or blowing it off don't get it. If they put up a website and put a weak password on it, that's one thing. But you need to tell what information could be gleaned from hacking a character's MySpace. Or even the Photobucket account.

The only reason to do so would be to maliciously alter the game. Which was accomplished. Pics were uploaded and deleted, which affects those who find the PB and MS pages because content had been erased. Once something occurs where the players gain control over content the game is potentially broken. I think that upsets people more than anything.

We'll see what happens! It surely was an exciting night, I must say. Hope we get to continue on.

EDIT: @ MrToasty: Got a little excited at first thinking, "kilroy... wasn't that where the profane lascano post came from??" ... then I realized that it must be a title for first posters. Several are "kilroy".

[Eddy]

[Hurm]

So, um... I've been lurking around these boards for a few months now, and I've been pretty caught up on all of the news, but I've not heard about this yet. Somebody hacked a photobucket of one of the characters? When did this happen? Could someone explain or link to something that explains this in detail please?

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[SlushoLover]