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[SPEC] Jamie & Teddy: More than Meets the Eye?
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dontlookmyage
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The guy in both of Jamie's pictures look the same to me. They both have that awesome smile, facial structure, nose. The guy with Lena doesn't look the same, though IMHO, they are both hot. If that IS Teddy, and if I were Jamie, I'd take Lena's "sloppy seconds" if he looked like THAT! Oh, yeah! Then again, I go out, but I don't get drunk, so Teddy's "cunning plan" wouldn't work on me. I think he was "putting out feelers" for his victim, but Lena didn't fall for it. Jamie was the best choice, being the party girl and all, and apparently, not the sharpest tool in the drawer. To put it another way, if she controlled her hands like she controlled her mind, she'd beat herself to death! (to quote a friend from AL). Teddy probably saw that, too, and she became the obvious pawn in the scheme. I like your way of thinking, Mel - thanks for this thread.

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Johnnyutah16
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Good Work Melampus on the Timeline
i should hire you

Iagree that there are two paralleling stories here, One the Group of NYC friends, and this Japanese Super Conglomerate, their link is Teddy Care Bear Hanssen, we need to focus our efforts here as well as the slusho- Taguano(batshiite) Corp. Like i said in another trail, we had the trailer the trialer led to 1-18-08.com, we were able to turn pics, came to the name "Jaime 'UTI gone wild' Lascano", led to myspace, myspace led to ted hanssen, led to teddy bear's website of love, and her photo album.

For the other protagonist, JapSuperCorp, we were led to slusho from the Trailer, then Tagauno from the 1-18-08 website pic of the constipated asian cook. Where Grumpypants fits in will be unveiled i think when teddy comes into the picture, i dont think we have been given him yet.

please expand, as i am usually a lurker, sitting on my surfboard until the set comes, all of you guys are paddling into all of the waves, keep up the good work guys


couple questions posed:
do you think we were bailed out, and thrown a bone to the Tanguano site, that 1-1808.com constipated asian pic has nothing to do with the other pics (sequentially)on the 1-18-08.com site, and that restraunt reviewer thing seems really random and not very premeditated?

do you guys agree? Ted Hanssen, individually, and none of our other Slusho 6 characters are the link between Taguano, the MysapceSlusho 6 that lead to the end result "Grumpypants"?

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dontlookmyage
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Love the nicknames!

I do think Teddy has a bigger part in this, but that the PMs gave us a LOT to chew on with the Tagruato site, et al.* I think Teddy will be the key to Rob getting a job with Ganu sometime in the near future, since there will be interviews, etc. before the actual hiring takes place. I wonder if, still going with Mel's theory, Teddy clued the newbie (to Tagruato) Rob into what the big plan is, but Rob dismissed it as garbage, until possibly a few days before 1-18-08, when something happens at the Chuai Drilling Station, and then the party incident leading to the "oh SHITE" face in the trailer and destruction of NYC (well, at least part of it).

99 days seems so far away...

EDIT: *Never finished that point. I meant to finish by saying, so we may be given more about Teddy later on. Okay, no more derailing of my train of thought!

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Johnnyutah16
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Good insight on Rob's Knowledge

I have never seen Rob acting Reel, so i cannot critique his acting talent, but that shot of him standing on the roof and HUD(supposed Camera man) goes, "you should have left earlier", the look on his face is one NOT of, "WTF is goin on?", i would say it is more of, "Oh F@#%, what have I done?"

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dontlookmyage
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Perhaps, "DAMMIT! I should have listened to Teddy!" We'll see how those dots are connected soon, I hope, but I, like others, thinks Rob knows more than he lets on in the trailer. Also, he hauls ass to the stairs without even helping anybody else off the roof. Nice guy (his brother's hot, though - did I type that out loud?).

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brettoniasam
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dontlookmyage wrote:
Also, he hauls ass to the stairs without even helping anybody else off the roof. Nice guy (his brother's hot, though - did I type that out loud?).


In Rob's defense, he *does* pause long enough in the stairwell to run back and pick up Hud's camcorder when he drops it. Not clear if he actually helps *Hud* up or not.

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True, but I think that's after he knocks Hud over trying to get down the stairs, lol. The self-preservation instinct is strong in that one...

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I think you are to something here... below are three screencaps from the trailer, just after the first movie roar and the lights come back on.

Someone says 'just relax' and we cut to Rob. The look on his face says "sh1t, this isn't good..." and the body language screams GUILT, not fear or confusion.

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2)

3)

If I didn't know any better, I would say that ol Robbie-boy has a pretty good idea that things are really gonna hit the fan!
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Re: Good insight on Rob's Knowledge

Johnnyutah16 wrote:
I have never seen Rob acting Reel, so i cannot critique his acting talent, but that shot of him standing on the roof and HUD(supposed Camera man) goes, "you should have left earlier", the look on his face is one NOT of, "WTF is goin on?", i would say it is more of, "Oh F@#%, what have I done?"


Admittedly, Rob does appear to have some kind of insight into the situation at hand from
the onset of the hysteria. I'm curious if he has a inside source, like Evil Ted, or if he
attains a premonition of sorts somehow.

Is he warned by someone affiliated with Tagruato who he should trust or is he confronted
by that stereotypical doomsayer on your average NYC street (ie. the fella w/ his eyes
sewed shut walkin' around with the END IS NEAR sign)
who seems completely insane?
Is he warned of something so fanciful and grandiose that his logical mind is simply not
willing to buy stock in it until the market spikes? Or does he no gaddam well wazzabout
at go down and just thinks he's got more time than he actually does?

I'm thinking' if he knows anything, it's an inkling…perhaps a dream he had forecasting
the sensational events on the horizon or something he was told by an unreliable source.
Either way, he brushes it off as nonsense. Otherwise why wouldn't he get the hell outta
dodge sooner? Unless he's privy to what's to come and it simply gets there sooner than
it's supposed to.

If he knows anything beforehand about that night ...he didn't even buy into it himself
by the looks of things.
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keeno_82uk
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definitely a guilty look. Could be a "i left the oven on look".Nah only kidding.

He's definitely guilty of something. God knows what.

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Melampus
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If he does know something, do you think he'd reveal it in the movie, or will his ambiguously odd behavior be just for our benefit (people following along online)? I'd guess that he'd say something, at some point, to somebody, whenever they get a chance to take a breather.

Will he say, between panting breaths, "Someone... on myspace.. was trying to warn me.." I doubt it. That wouldn't make sense to the rest of the audience; if it did, they'd feel left out, cheated.

IF he knows something, it might not be anything sinister (of Rob's part). He starts working for Slusho/Tagruato; the Chuai station is destroyed - it's a company disaster, so he somehow hears about it. Maybe he also overhears some vague threat, e.g., that whatever it was that happened out there isn't 'contained' or some such, and that someone overheard from someone (etc.) that it may even pose a threat to the whole Eastern Seaboard of the United States! ...but the company is trying to keep a lid on it, and esp. to keep it from leaking to the press. Point is: even if he 'knows' something, it may not be much.

My problem w/Rob knowing too much is that he's young, and from what we know, he seems like a pretty average guy. He doesn't seem overly ambitious, so I can't see him being in any kind of 'inner circle.' Unless his "gramps" (in Hawk's PacSun pic) has some connection to the whole thing. There was speculation a long time ago that gramps, or Rob's Mom and/or Dad might be involved, but we just don't know anything about them, so who knows? There are a lot of references to the Hawkins family on myspace, though: aunt peg, gramps, dominick, and Rob's cousin (i.e., dominick's Mom or Dad); and, of course, Jason "Hawk." All that and two brothers talking to each other, and no mention of Mom or Dad?

If Rob's Dad, Mom, and/or Gramps were someone involved, I still don't see Rob being directly involved; but, it could explain how/why he knows anything at all.

Also, though - if he knows anything, and reveals this in the movie (in some bit of dialogue), then he'd have to reveal EVERYTHING. Imagine seeing a monster movie, and one of the characters pants "It's the company... the one I just started working for..." If he didn't go on to explain the whole story, you'd wonder why they had that line in there at all, wouldn't you?

Anyway, speaking of gramps - look at this picture. Is it my imagination, or is there some kind of Japanese (Chinese?) character(s) on his tie?




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Re: Good insight on Rob's Knowledge

Dr. Awkward wrote:
Johnnyutah16 wrote:
I have never seen Rob acting Reel, so i cannot critique his acting talent, but that shot of him standing on the roof and HUD(supposed Camera man) goes, "you should have left earlier", the look on his face is one NOT of, "WTF is goin on?", i would say it is more of, "Oh F@#%, what have I done?"


Admittedly, Rob does appear to have some kind of insight into the situation at hand from
the onset of the hysteria. I'm curious if he has a inside source, like Evil Ted, or if he
attains a premonition of sorts somehow.

Is he warned by someone affiliated with Tagruato who he should trust or is he confronted
by that stereotypical doomsayer on your average NYC street (ie. the fella w/ his eyes
sewed shut walkin' around with the END IS NEAR sign)
who seems completely insane?
Is he warned of something so fanciful and grandiose that his logical mind is simply not
willing to buy stock in it until the market spikes? Or does he no gaddam well wazzabout
at go down and just thinks he's got more time than he actually does?

I'm thinking' if he knows anything, it's an inkling…perhaps a dream he had forecasting
the sensational events on the horizon or something he was told by an unreliable source.
Either way, he brushes it off as nonsense. Otherwise why wouldn't he get the hell outta
dodge sooner? Unless he's privy to what's to come and it simply gets there sooner than
it's supposed to.

If he knows anything beforehand about that night ...he didn't even buy into it himself
by the looks of things.



Perhaps he has a dream like in the Slusho history about the creator becoing a whale, but in this dream, the whale turns into a giant monster and destroy's NYC. Laughing

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Will he say, between panting breaths, "Someone... on myspace.. was trying to warn me.." I doubt it. That wouldn't make sense to the rest of the audience; if it did, they'd feel left out, cheated.


lol. The warnings were posted to him on myspace, why oh why did he not listen to them.....nooooooooooo

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The rob knowing something theory:

I agree that the look on his face isnt a "WTF?" but i would say its more of a "Oh SH%$". Connect this with the fact he is supposed to be leaving, I would say the most probable reason for him acting wierd is that he knew something was coming (possibly didn't know what) and was pissed he hadn't left already, possibly thinking "those damn tagruato guys screwed me over". This could tie in with the watcher theory, Rob joins Tagruato and knows about the plan, but possibly thinks it wont happen untill later, or something goes wrong and the monster attacks early.

The Marlena - teddy theory/thing:

This ties in very well with the Teddy using Jamie thing. Teddy first tried to use Lena, fails and instead uses Jamie instead. Possibly Lena realises that teddy is using her and tries to stop them, or possibly just being jelous.

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Not to derail any of the thinking here, but it might be better to resurrect the existing 'Suspicious Rob' thread and continue the Rob discussion there, rather than completely hijacking this thread:

Suspicious Rob (He knows something...)

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