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 		Good job! I think we're on the right track, now--numbers.

BTW, the conversation compiled by TheBruce HERE seems to indicate that Jedditor was searching for suitable candidates from our world to help them. He asked the [system] to find us. They wanted people from our world; however, Alvyurin was against it. As somebody already said, Alvyurin appears to be female while Jedditor appears to be male.

Um, that's all. XD
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 		Just to be thorough, the code in my "Oculet (3)" Email was:

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 		search query
new search query
don't know if this is relevant, but I typed
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
"time"
into the search query and came up with this, random looking page:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/


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 		Hm, I had tried those ('date' & 'time') before but then they came back as unknown.
Which means that new query terms are being added. Something that did not work before may well yield a result now or later.

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 		Alvyurin posted:
http://exilearchive.com/blogpost.php?d=1&b=51&a=10&c=51

thanks to vidstudent for the idea of solar energy.
They seem to be looking for soil... could those green and brown patches of sand be anything?
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 		it's feeling very much like an overhead RTS/Simcity type deal and we're taking an indirect 'players' approach by guiding the people rather than actually doing things ourselves...
kinda neat
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 		Seems like they're not even on their own planet. Do you suppose the basic geology of it is the same as Earth? Plate tectonics, for example. If that's true, it opens up some possibilities... I don't want to say anything for certain in case I've forgotten my basic geology . Embarassed I think I may have ideas for how to get clay though, and possibly shelter. It all depends on plate tectonics.

I'll read up some more about the geology of deserts and post again in a bit.

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 		The exiles
Our help
So is the consensus that we are to just aid the exiles in their survival until further notice? Just give them advice and see where they go with it?

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 		Plants
Ok I was thinking. If you are in a desert and you see plants that means there is water nearby. If the green area they are talking about is plantlife then there must be water that they can harvest. possibly even soil they can use. Maybe sending someone down there could tell us if there are plants or not.

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 		sending a scout
ooo, great idea! Let's see if we can send scouts in all directions...

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 		Sorry I haven't been able to post. Three more.

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Days of the Dark Forest - The Journal of Keridwen Oculet

Day 9: My most interesting recent discovery has been a small blue spider. It
is quite hairy, the coloring almost cyan but less saturated. The eyes are the
most interesting feature, dark with colored depths. This is the only spider I
have ever come across to really take notice of [people] and watch us with what
I can only call curiosity. The spider moves its head to track us huge
creatures stumbling around the forest. And if one of us gets too close, the
spider jumps backward--and continues to watch! Very intriguing.

Despite the hardships of camping out in this strange forest, I'm enjoying it.
This is the first time I've really felt challenged to use everything I know,
not just to perform my research and other duties, but to merely function day
by day. The hunters are sworn to take care of me, of course, but I take pride
in not requiring their help. Often.

Day 10: The leader of the hunters is Davadron Toluin. He's been quite kind, I
would almost say solicitous, in providing for me. Of course, *I'm* the one
who's supposed to find out what's edible and what's not in this forest, but
the hunters perennially do things their own way. I suppose I'll have to treat
one of them when he eats a bad berry. Still, they have their uses; their
[tricks] for finding interesting species are almost as good as mine!

Day 11: I've procured some glass to rig up a primitive terrarium for the
spiders. The hunters have caught a few for me, but it's hard to keep them
around so I can study them. The spiders, that is; the hunters don't really
have any choice in the matter, though I shudder to imagine what *they* think
of me asking for all these silly blue spiders. I find the creatures so
intriguing, but I'm not even sure why.

The hunters tell me there's a type of bee that builds hives in certain trees
around here. And they say these bees do in fact create honey. *That* should
prove their worth even to the hunters!

Day 12: [Expletive] tricky spiders! They can climb right up glass! Who ever
heard of a spider that can climb glass? I just returned to camp to find the
last one scurrying up the terrarium and out the top! I'm going to need more
glass to build a *real* terrarium, [viz.], with a lid.

Well, I shouldn't fill this journal with silly things like that. The truth is
that the bees are turning out quite interesting. Good quality honey with a
distinctive, slightly bitter and almost smoky taste. I'm sure gourmets back
home will go wild for it. As much as gourmets *ever* go wild!

What's more interesting to *me* is that the bees only build hives in a certain
species of tree. The hunters call it a "bee bush"; I guess that's as good a
name as any, for now. (The bees, of course, are "bush bees". How pointless.)
Right now I'm getting ready for a field expedition to see these bushes for
myself. In my copious spare time, of course.

Day 13: The bush has stiff branches with alternate compound leaves, with nine
leaflets each. The leaflets are elongated with rounded tips and smooth edges,
dark green on top and smooth white underneath. These branch-trunks spiral
upward in a twisty manner I haven't figured out yet, forming a large bush.
Each bush has what appears to be somewhere between half a dozen and a dozen
flower stalks, quite stiff, each stretching nearly [a meter] upward. This
stalk is woody and light brown, with no leaves, but a few odd ridges and
structures I don't recognize. Atop each stalk is a magenta flower with a wide
base, myriad short petals and both stamens and pistil in the center. The bees
are often seen taking nectar from these flowers.

What's *really* interesting is that the bees build their hives between the
flower stalks. The stalks are plain, nearly featureless, sticking straight up
in the air for [a meter]. The hives usually join three of these stalks, as if
someone had wrapped a [scarf] around the stalks and filled in the area thus
delineated. Each plant has three hives with startling regularity. The whole
arrangement is completely bizarre and unlike anything I've ever seen before.

I had to stop writing because Davadron just brought some amazing news.

We aren't alone in this forest.
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Day 14: I've finally gotten the terrarium working. The spiders are happily
wandering about inside. I'm going to have to get a steady supply of insects.

I don't know much about politics, I never have. These newcomers say that we're
trespassing in *their* forest. From everything I've heard, no one was claiming
the forest at all, and that's why we felt justified in sending a research
expedition. I have this strange suspicion that the only reason the blue-
armored soldiers are interested in the forest is because *we* are. Why can't
they leave us alone?

Day 15: I didn't realize it, but Davadron has a startling knowledge of
politics. I guess since he's the leader of this band of hunters, he's an
administrator, so he would have had to deal with it before. He did confirm my
suppositions; apparently the Blues have heard tales of the honey, perhaps from
travelers who wandered this way before. They want it.

Day 16: I'm starting to think it would be a great crime to let the Blues have
their honey. Davadron wouldn't understand...I'm not sure I understand it yet
myself, but this forest is more delicate than anyone realizes.

The spiders *can* spin webs! But they only spin single threads. Before they
jump from somewhere they fasten a 'safety line' so they can climb back up.

Day 17: I've realized that some of the nodules and structures on the flower
stalks provide starches and sugars that the bees ingest. They don't just get
nectar from the flowers, it comes from the entire plant. But this poses a
question; How did the nodules evolve in the first place? What's their purpose?

We found some bee bushes stripped of their hives today. Davadron said it was
the Blues' work. It was hard to look at. I know they were just bees, but to
me it was tragic. I can't explain it. Especially not to Davadron.

The trees with no hives are also missing their leaves, but Davadron says the
Blues didn't take them. One of the hunters watched the Blues harvest and he
says the leaves weren't affected. And there was another group of trees with
leaves stripped off but hives intact. I have this strange feeling there's more
to this story than we yet realize.

Day 18: Maybe I shouldn't hope mysteries get solved. There's another faction
of beings in this forest. Strange reptilian creatures, but Davadron says he
can communicate with them. He calls them Hedges, I think, I don't know why.

The Hedges stripped the leaves from the bee trees. From what I can deduce they
get some medicinal value from them. They don't care about honey. Why are there
all these people trying to destroy this forest? Why did we even come here in
the first place? We should go back to our city and leave them to fight it out.

Another minor mystery solved; With the hives gone, herbivores eat the leaves
from the bee bushes. The bees, when present, sting anything that tries that.

Day 19: Davadron is trying to negotiate with the two factions. The hunters are
better at tracking and fighting in this forest than anyone else, with Zetria's
[tricks] helping. Davadron doesn't want to fight, though, and I don't blame
him. When I tried to suggest retreating he yelled at me. It hurt, but it hurts
more to see him under such pressure. I still don't see why we had to leave our
city. Why doesn't anyone know what to do? I've gone through all my books and
they don't have anything useful at all. My head is spinning.

[Expletive] I forgot to feed the spiders. There's only one left. I should have
remembered spiders could become cannibalistic under conditions like this.

One of the hunters left me a gift. A nine-holed flute made from beeswax. I
know what it can do, and that is not the right path. But I don't know what is.

Day 20: I dreamed that all the old teachers and heroes were yelling at me for
not knowing what to do. It ended with Kallomar Ridditum himself berating me.
He told me that *he* had no idea what to do, because he was in the past, and I
needed to look to the future. He told me I had everything I needed.

When I woke up I felt a lot better.

I know why the bees live in the bushes and why the bushes have their bees. I
know why the spiders jump. I've figured it all out. I know what I have to do.

I just don't know if I can pull it off...

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Days of the Dark Forest - The Journal of Keridwen Oculet, Part 3


Day 22: The negotiations went well. The Blues are greedy folk, very interested
in the honey. They would say "their honey", but I wouldn't. Because they were
so interested, they assumed they would have to give something in return, so I
asked them to cede ownership of the trees. They agreed.

Day 24: I was extremely impressed with Davadron today. The Hedges are such
strange creatures, but he was able to negotiate with them with patience and
skill. His range of talents is astounding. Well, in any case these talks were
also successful. The Hedges want leaves from the trees, and in return they
have agreed that we own the bees who nest in them. Now comes the tricky part.

Day 25: It worked. We did it. We made it happen. I still can't believe it.

The Blues and Hedges finally met today. Davadron brought them together. The
Blues want honey, of course, and they do it by stealing the entire hive. But
that destroys the bees, and the Hedges have promised the bees to us. And the
Hedges want leaves, but the harvesting kills the trees...which the Blues have
promised to us. So either faction pursuing their goals would violate the
treaties made by the other one. And neither wants to get into that conflict.

The real truth, of course, is that they were already connected and they didn't
realize it. Without leaves, the trees die and stop providing the sugary food
to the bees, who also die. Without bees to sting the herbivorous animals of
the forest, the trees would have their leaves eaten and also die. The two life
forms have evolved together. The flower stalks provide the bees with food and
homes. The bees having learned to build their homes in the trees, defend them.

The Blues and Hedges have to work together. We're going to try to find a way
that they can get what they want without destroying everything. No, we *will*
find a way. We can harvest *some* leaves and *some* honey, without killing
anything. This is a lesson we will *make* them learn.

And now Davadron is organizing a celebration that I should attend.

Day 27: Now that this expedition is coming to a close, I'm thinking about
everything that's happened to me. It's hard to believe it all happened in less
than a [month]. I started out just a girl who liked books and studying plants
and animals. And now I've become something like a leader. Davadron and I were
able to do what I thought was impossible, preserve these beautiful life forms.
I know we'll have a great future together, like a spider jumping into the
unknown but keeping a connection to the knowledge we've already gained.

I can't wait to see where he and I will go next.


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 		as per jedditors comments:
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 		Keridwen
Keridwen
Does anyone think that the name 'keridwen' is a sophisticate PM move to make us think that th exiles were once from earth? Or is it just a neat name that the PM's chose randomly. Keridwen is a celtic name (an old nature goddess). It could be that the PM's are suggesting a common cultural ancestry between us and the exiles. Or it could be that the name was chosen at random and I'm being over-analytical. what do you think?

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 		Re: Keridwen
Keridwen
The Mirror wrote:
Does anyone think that the name 'keridwen' is a sophisticate PM move to make us think that th exiles were once from earth? Or is it just a neat name that the PM's chose randomly. Keridwen is a celtic name (an old nature goddess). It could be that the PM's are suggesting a common cultural ancestry between us and the exiles. Or it could be that the name was chosen at random and I'm being over-analytical. what do you think?


Do you think that they might be suggesting that the exiles are created by the same god or whatever?

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 		I think you guys may be over-thinking this. It could be that the PM wanted some out-of-this-world name, so he/she went looking up names on the internet and found one odd enough to fit the others (Alvyurin, Jedditor, etc)

Of course, I could be wrong. I guess time will tell.
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