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[SPEC] heres a new thought for you all :how's it end?
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Melampus
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 		It's a really interesting idea, the more I think about it - I esp. like the idea of the survivor being the one looking at the photos.

But, there seem to be almost insurmountable logistical problems. I mean, wouldn't that require at least seven alternate endings? One for each different person saved? The only way to make that as simple as possible would be to have all of them live, right up until the very end, when our 'decision' gets counted. Otherwise, it gets really complicated, e.g., you can't have Hud die first, if he's the one that gets saved, but that's true of everyone; so, it seems like each version (e.g., the version where Beth survives vs. the version where Hawk survives, etc.) would have to be a substantially different movie from the others.

So, if this possibility comes into play, wouldn't it mean that all the characters are going to live, right up until some crucial moment near the end? I can't really see that. But, it's possible. I dunno. Can you think of a way that they could logistically pull this off, without taking anything away from the movie?

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Melampus wrote:
It's a really interesting idea, the more I think about it - I esp. like the idea of the survivor being the one looking at the photos.

But, there seem to be almost insurmountable logistical problems. I mean, wouldn't that require at least seven alternate endings? One for each different person saved? The only way to make that as simple as possible would be to have all of them live, right up until the very end, when our 'decision' gets counted. Otherwise, it's get really complicated, e.g., you can't have Hud die first, if he's the one that gets saved, but that's true of everyone; so, it seems like each version (e.g., the version where Beth survives vs. the version where Hawk survives, etc.) would have to be a substantially different movie from the others.

So, if this possibility comes into play, wouldn't it mean that all the characters are going to live, right up until some crucial moment near the end? I can't really see that. But, it's possible. I dunno. Can you think of a way that they could logistically pull this off, without taking anything away from the movie?


I'm glad you asked!
At the end of the trailer, we've already seen that Jason(JJ) is MIA, and it's Rob, Lil and i think Beth. How many folks have tried to walk together down a crowded city street and stayed together? Now add the effects of the military intervention and the 200 foot assgrabber on the loose. Do you think anyone, especially a bunch of self-serving 20 somethings, would be worried about anyones ass but their own? Fight or flight would dictate that if you don't have any recourse of defending yourself, you look for the first way out, and not look back. We would see the group slowly whittle away to one or none by the films end, with no way of knowing who made it, or where they are in-city. This film, to my mind, isn't going to be about these people, it's about absolute panic, and the survival instinct. Rob could have the camera the entire time, and we may get to see him go through the creatures digestive tract. But Lil made it to safety, and shes the one that claims the cam from a ten foot turd.

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 		I can see them splitting up in the panic - definitely possible, if not likely.

Are you saying that the movie will just be one way, but with some kind of ambiguous ending (where we don't actually see all of them die) and we'll only find out who survived online; or, do you mean that the people who only see the movie, and don't do anything online, will know that 1 of the 'main characters' survive, and they'll also know who it is?

EDIT: Sorry, just read your post again. Doh! So, you mean there will be 2 endings; depending on whether the person w/the camera lives or dies?

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Melampus wrote:
I can see them splitting up in the panic - definitely possible, if not likely.

Are you saying that the movie will just be one way, but with some kind of ambiguous ending (where we don't actually see all of them die) and we'll only find out who survived online; or, do you mean that the people who only see the movie, and don't do anything online, will know that 1 of the 'main characters' survive, and they'll also know who it is?


I think the studio is actually basing the whole thing around ambiguity. Think how easy it would be to carry this over to a sequel if, in fact, one or more characters are involved, or, the creature is never seen being defeated, just fading in the distance with one last defiant roar. One of the seven claims the cam. It would have to be someone other than the actual filmer, that much may be true from reports of the film set at coney island, someone comes and FINDS the camera(possibly while IDing the friend) So, you have an open ended film, with any of the seven readily able to plug-in to the final scene, or even six of the seven survive, and come to claim their friend. How many people saw Blair Witch, and simply assumed that Josh Heather and Mike were dead? When in fact, no bodies and no filmed proof ever existed. It was more chilling that way. To know, but not see, the thing that you fear the most.

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 		well done to me for making my first multi page topic. woo

back to basics. Something caught my attention earlier. About the monster wreaking the city but it seems only in a line, as if it was out to get something and was hell bent on getting or destroying it. That would be cool. Any ideas on what the monster's motive could be? it isn't just out for a wreaking spree is it? Not going to be able to work out how the movie ends without knowing its motive now.

I think the film will have alternate endings. I also am of the view the movie will be about the different stories of all of the slusho seven and how they copy and survive this nightmare. The camera guy/gal i think will wander off and will meet up with the different members of the gang and other pedestrians getting different stories required for a movie like this (love, sadness, hate, sob stories and so on).

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keeno_82uk wrote:
well done to me for making my first multi page topic. woo

back to basics. Something caught my attention earlier. About the monster wreaking the city but it seems only in a line, as if it was out to get something and was hell bent on getting or destroying it. That would be cool. Any ideas on what the monster's motive could be? it isn't just out for a wreaking spree is it? Not going to be able to work out how the movie ends without knowing its motive now.

I think the film will have alternate endings. I also am of the view the movie will be about the different stories of all of the slusho seven and how they copy and survive this nightmare. The camera guy/gal i think will wander off and will meet up with the different members of the gang and other pedestrians getting different stories required for a movie like this (love, sadness, hate, sob stories and so on).


What does any growing monster need?
Food!
And in New York, the food is fast, and soft and squishy, and it tends to congregate in one spot in droves. Crack open a big grey box and out spill all sorts of sweets! lol

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 		theres plenty of food in the sea.

Maybe with big corps taking away its only source of food (the special ingredient) in many areas across the globe, it finds out that the sourse is no longer under the sea but on land and can smell it. Chef Nakamura watch your back. Maybe when cooked the ingredient lets off a scent that attracts the monster.

Nah, it seems a bit far fetched. A gigantic monster only after a hot dog. come on.

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theres plenty of food in the sea.

Maybe with big corps taking away its only source of food (the special ingredient) in many areas across the globe, it finds out that the sourse is no longer under the sea but on land and can smell it. Chef Nakamura watch your back. Maybe when cooked the ingredient lets off a scent that attracts the monster.

Nah, it seems a bit far fetched. A gigantic monster only after a hot dog. come on.


I've driven half a state for a particular cheese-steak, but that was under outside influences, and probably not conducive to this thread. lol

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 		WHEW
No alt endings, mearly a hint at something.
"it's a shame xxxxxxxxxx couldnt make it to the party"
"left town in a hurry"

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Melampus wrote:
But, there seem to be almost insurmountable logistical problems. I mean, wouldn't that require at least seven alternate endings? One for each different person saved?


You might be onto something there.

I've been noticing for QUITE some time that a great number of the films and books (and other things) referenced in the Myspace pages point toward altered realities fiction and MULTIPLE realities fiction, and/or anthologies.

The Life of Pi
House of Leaves
Magnolia
Kurosawa films (anyone remember "Rashomon" -- same story told from multiple perspectives)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
another Michel Gondry film -- Be Kind Rewind
The Kylie Minogue video -- multiple realities

and others...don't have time to list more. But there's a lot of 'em.

You might be a lot closer to the truth than you think, Mel. Wink

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 		i agree

there will be some deception involved.

*hows about this theory*

Having hit the USA by storm, Slusho is drank frequently by nearly everyone, due to its addictive taste and effects, making ppl rejuvinated and energetic.

But...

due to no long term effects investigations, the makers of slusho failed to see that slusho left ppl with side effects. People who consumed slusho fell into a coma, a coma with hallucinations

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 		also straying away frm my mad theories...

i also think that the slusho seven will probably split up, however they stick together in pairs or maybe in threes. I think Rob being the main guy after running off in the trailer goes solo, but meets up with others later on in the film.

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 		I, too...
...think that this may have alternative (multiple) endings. That would be interesting. Who survives? Do they all survive? Perhaps Hud really IS a superhero - or Jason, since he allegedly wrote on the back of one picture, "Don't forget who takes care of you!" What exactly does that mean? Maybe he's more than the slacker he makes himself out to be... Maybe the movie is just a "break" in the destruction, with the monster going back to "regroup", then coming back for more in the sequel. Perhaps, like in Independence Day (and other movies), NYC isn't the only city attacked, but, since everyone is running for their lives at the time, no one else knows it. The possibilities are many....

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 		Well if what the released Call Sheet said is true there will be an alternate ending.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/08/clover_field_wraps_and_weve_got_the_call_sheet.html

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 		had a good luck at it.

I've seen it before and instantly dismissed it as a hoax.

What about the "call sheet" suggests that there is indeed a alternate ending? Question

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