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[Question] Tagruato dead-ends
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smartmart
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 		[Question] Tagruato dead-ends
I question some dead-ends
Since it's my first ARG, I need your help on this one.

The discovery of tagruato.jp gave us more knowledge of Ganu's activities. I have two issues about the informations contained on the site.

First, the background and history. Is it normal for an ARG to expose "historical" facts, like the year 1925, foundation of Tagruato, and leaves nno traces on the internet elsewhere than the IG site? Why would the PM precisely explain that Tagruato contributed greatly to some mining techinques and leave no "bones" for us to chew? They should now that we will search for any possible clues, like obvious names and place.

Second, traces in the public domain of tagruato's subsidiaries. Forget about corporate businesses (YMR, Bold Futura, Paraffun). I know that some corporations keep themeselves far from the worldwide web since they focus on corporate relationship mostly. But Slusho! on the other bother me. The Tagruato reveals us: "

The beverage's popularity has spawned overwhelming sales of brand apparel, a hit theme song, and coming soon: an animated television show starring the Slusho! Flavor Droids! The next step is to introduce Slusho! to the rest of the world. A search is on for top marketing professionals who will be tasked with duplicating the drink's Asian popularity in the Western market."

A product with this enormous mass appeal would certainly leaves traces here and there on the WWW. Overwhelming sales of brand apparel? Then where are the fan sites or the millions of Asian people wearing a t-shirt/handbag or else? A hit theme song? Then where it is? An animated comic feat Flavor Droids!? Then where are the ads?

Why would the PM drop those infos without even a short www background? Is it usual in ARG?

Edit: Also, why "Privacy and legal" Sitemap" and "Help" are not linked to their respective pages. This also look like improvised.

I see only 2 possibilities:
1) Tagruto is real (IG) and lying about its operations.
2) PM are unprepared rookies.

Thank you if you take the time to help on this.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:39 pm
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 		Re: [Question] Tagruato dead-ends
I question some dead-ends
smartmart wrote:
I see only 2 possibilities:
1) Tagruto is real (IG) and lying about its operations.
2) PM are unprepared rookies.


What do you mean by the first one? I'm confused b/c you said "real" and then "IG." Wha...?

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 		Re: [Question] Tagruato dead-ends
I question some dead-ends
Melampus wrote:
smartmart wrote:
I see only 2 possibilities:
1) Tagruto is real (IG) and lying about its operations.
2) PM are unprepared rookies.


What do you mean by the first one? I'm confused b/c you said "real" and then "IG." Wha...?


Sorry if i'm not clear. I meant that Tagruato is existing IG. I still need to get used to the ARG terminology

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 		Considering this is more a venture of marketing than what's traditionally known as an ARG, I'm going with #2.
Compare the effectiveness of the Ethan Haas crap - that was marketing and tried to be a traditional ARG, then turned into a train wreck.
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 		Just keep in mind that the slusho.jp site started out in a similar fashion. Originally, only the History, Icons and Contact pages were functional; all the other buttons pointed to dead links. But after a few weeks (specifically, immediately after JJ's Comic-Con speech), the other links (Happy Talk, Store, Flavors etc) were activated.

So I'm 99.9 percent sure that the other links at Tagruato (including YMR, Help, ParafFun, etc) will activate sometime in the next few weeks.

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brettoniasam wrote:
Just keep in mind that the slusho.jp site started out in a similar fashion. Originally, only the History, Icons and Contact pages were functional; all the other buttons pointed to dead links. But after a few weeks (specifically, immediately after JJ's Comic-Con speech), the other links (Happy Talk, Store, Flavors etc) were activated.

So I'm 99.9 percent sure that the other links at Tagruato (including YMR, Help, ParafFun, etc) will activate sometime in the next few weeks.


Probably, but it is the absence web "relics" that bothers me. I find the idea of inventing a past (since 1925) to a IG company useless if do don't give Arg-gamers the feel that it is real. It seems to me that we are presented a very thin sheet of paper with a pretty image on it. a very flashy picture but, no depth.

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 		I think it makes sense. They wanted to make sure Tagruato was a large successful company in Asia, but the effort needed to put hundreds of fan sites, adverts and all sorts on the net would be crazy. One could always say that its in asia so why would we have access to it?

Giving Tagruato a background serves a purpose. Putting small adverts and asian people wearing slusho t-shirts wouldn't.

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smartmart wrote:
I see only 2 possibilities:
1) Tagruto is real (IG) and lying about its operations.
2) PM are unprepared rookies.

Probably, but it is the absence web "relics" that bothers me. I find the idea of inventing a past (since 1925) to a IG company useless if do don't give Arg-gamers the feel that it is real. It seems to me that we are presented a very thin sheet of paper with a pretty image on it. a very flashy picture but, no depth.


You're forgetting the third possibility - that it's not important.

I think you are a little hung up on the idea that they need to pretend that they are a real company in real life. We all know they are not really real.

I think the main focus is Slusho, and the Tagruato website is just background info to the Slusho story. There's no need to expand on the other subsidiaries if they are not going to be important to the overall story. Although I do think the drilling aspect will be important.

As to the "relics" you think should be there... they are giving you everything you need to know. It's possible and likely that we may eventually see a Slusho theme song, and even "commercials" for a TV show (but I don't think they have the budget to create an actual show).

Take a look at what they did for the Lost ARG with the Apollo Candy website. They have a commercial under "The Ad" section that ran on TV during Lost.

Apollo Candy Website: http://cloverfieldclues.blogspot.com/2007/08/slusho-and-apollo-candy.html

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W-Three wrote:
I think it makes sense. They wanted to make sure Tagruato was a large successful company in Asia, but the effort needed to put hundreds of fan sites, adverts and all sorts on the net would be crazy. One could always say that its in asia so why would we have access to it?

Giving Tagruato a background serves a purpose. Putting small adverts and asian people wearing slusho t-shirts wouldn't.


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smartmart wrote:
I see only 2 possibilities:
1) Tagruto is real (IG) and lying about its operations.
2) PM are unprepared rookies.

Probably, but it is the absence web "relics" that bothers me. I find the idea of inventing a past (since 1925) to a IG company useless if do don't give Arg-gamers the feel that it is real. It seems to me that we are presented a very thin sheet of paper with a pretty image on it. a very flashy picture but, no depth.


You're forgetting the third possibility - that it's not important.

I think you are a little hung up on the idea that they need to pretend that they are a real company in real life. We all know they are not really real.

I think the main focus is Slusho, and the Tagruato website is just background info to the Slusho story. There's no need to expand on the other subsidiaries if they are not going to be important to the overall story. Although I do think the drilling aspect will be important.

As to the "relics" you think should be there... they are giving you everything you need to know. It's possible and likely that we may eventually see a Slusho theme song, and even "commercials" for a TV show (but I don't think they have the budget to create an actual show).

Take a look at what they did for the Lost ARG with the Apollo Candy website. They have a commercial under "The Ad" section that ran on TV during Lost.

Apollo Candy Website: http://cloverfieldclues.blogspot.com/2007/08/slusho-and-apollo-candy.html


Agreed, it'd be a poor use of time and resources to go out there and make forums, historical documents, a flipping cartoon series and other products if they aren't going to be of any use in the movie in the long run. I highly doubt, for example, that the people behind the Lost Experience went and created reams of webpages about the Dharma Initiative.

Don't get bogged down on wondering if we'll ever see a Slusho animated series or their contribution to drilling in a specific region... there's T-Shirts and baseball caps with the Slusho logo and that's really enough for the moment, it's unlikely they'd have the budget to actually make all the things that they've claimed exist in the Cloverfield universe via the Tagruato website. It was a bit like people asking if fans could keep a watch out for Slusho items in Japan when the only suggestion of stuff appearing in Japan was from an in-game site.
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 		All right. These were the kind of answers I expected. Thank you very much.

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