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Kraker
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 		Re: 63 degrees in NYC in January isn't unheard of...
At all actually...
Dr. Awkward wrote:
I've spent a substantial amount of time in NY...I'd assign the temperature
factor a lil' more weight if it were in the 80-90 degree range that fateful
night. Doesn't even seem like the characters are taken aback by the
cool 60 something degree night they were enjoying in the teaser. No
mentions or references to the temp being out of place...

It's hard for me to consider 63 degrees in January in NYC any sort of
anomaly. This isn't the average monthly temp by any means , but if you
live or have lived in NY, it's well understood that the weather there is
fairly schizophrenic. It's not unheard of to experience all four seasons in
a 1 month period come October or so: sun shining (70 degrees) followed
by 4 days of straight rain followed 5 inches of snow…all the while the
leaves are changing color.

Lately the more harsh end of winter's been picking up between late
February and March melting off around aroung April sometime....

Check out this link from '98...about tens years of global warming follows this article headlined,
" Forget Bermuda! Try Binghamton, N.Y., which hit a balmy 63-degree temperature in January (News from the northeast regional climate center)".

Seems like the "clue" with the least oddness and significance.
I'd quicker blame it on El Nino Wink


Heheh, '98...

That happened during the day. 63 degrees in january for new york is pretty much impossible if at night.

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 		Although 63 in January seems a bit warm in the middle of the night in NYC, I don't think it's such a massive amount warmer than it could normally be. Would everyone think 53 was so stunningly warm? NYC is a 'heat island' due to it's being a large man made city with a lot of unnatural heat sources and materials that tend to act as good retainers of heat. Also notice that there's no snow standing on the ground in the trailer. There is no sign of stars in the sky, which tells us it's overcast (the poster also suggests this). On a night with no precipitation and clear skies in winter, it's usually colder because the heat radiating off the surface it lost into space. Since it's overcast, it'd be a few degrees warmer than a clear night.
Overall I think it's being a bit warm is a clue, just not so huge and critical of one - or it would be much more pronounced.
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 		Re: 63 degrees in NYC in January isn't unheard of...
At all actually...
Kraker wrote:
Dr. Awkward wrote:
I've spent a substantial amount of time in NY...I'd assign the temperature
factor a lil' more weight if it were in the 80-90 degree range that fateful
night. Doesn't even seem like the characters are taken aback by the
cool 60 something degree night they were enjoying in the teaser. No
mentions or references to the temp being out of place...

It's hard for me to consider 63 degrees in January in NYC any sort of
anomaly. This isn't the average monthly temp by any means , but if you
live or have lived in NY, it's well understood that the weather there is
fairly schizophrenic. It's not unheard of to experience all four seasons in
a 1 month period come October or so: sun shining (70 degrees) followed
by 4 days of straight rain followed 5 inches of snow…all the while the
leaves are changing color.

Lately the more harsh end of winter's been picking up between late
February and March melting off around aroung April sometime....

Check out this link from '98...about tens years of global warming follows this article headlined,
" Forget Bermuda! Try Binghamton, N.Y., which hit a balmy 63-degree temperature in January (News from the northeast regional climate center)".

Seems like the "clue" with the least oddness and significance.
I'd quicker blame it on El Nino Wink


Heheh, '98...

That happened during the day. 63 degrees in january for new york is pretty much impossible if at night.


I can only assume you haven't experienced NY winters Krake (they can be very amusing/frustrating). Confused
If you have, it becomes difficult for me to percieve how you find this temp. so bizarre.

For anyone who would like to entertain the fact that this temp. is indeed not peculiar...here's two more articles
( WINTER HEAT WAVE SENDS CROWD TO CONEY ... FALSE SUMMER BREAKS JANUARY HEAT RECORDS )
from the Times from 1906 (if the '98 link wasn't entertaining enough),
but the cherry on the sundae is in this blog from January 19, 2006.
Here's an excerpt...
excerpt wrote:

For quite some time, we have been deluded into believing we would
never see winter again - that El Nino with global warming as a
contributing factor was turning New York into a subtropical zone. After all,
two weeks ago we were sitting in parks with T-Shirts in 72 degree
weather. 2006 has been the warmest year ever recorded in USA history.
And NYC broke a 129 year record for the latest date for the first snowfall.


A century of observations serving this topic, along with first hand
accounts to the trend, speak to me how regular it truly is....

I'll say good luck finding how the temp. in question somehow links to the
bizarre sequence of events that pitfall 1-18-08. There is no avenue
unworthy of speculation at this point...but I assure you that 63 degrees in
January isn't that special.
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 		63 degrees of separation ...
The average high temperature in January in NYC is 38 degrees. The average low is 26 degrees and the OVERALL average in January is 32 degrees.

http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/weather.php3?s=108503&refer=&units=us
--or--
http://www.ny.com/general/weather.html

Those that argue that 63 degrees is not a clue or integral to the story line are not looking at the bigger picture. It may not be unusual to have a few warm days and nights in winter, but it is not NORMAL. Nobody is saying that it cannot be 63 degrees; it's not something that's expected. Anyone can site an exception to the average.

Why was 63 degrees selected as the temp to display on the news report? It makes no sense in the narrative of the film or does it fit contextually by selecting a temperature 31 degrees higher then the daily average and let the viewer assume that it's completely normal because sometimes there are warm days in the winter in NYC.

I'm willing to accept either the possibility that someone goofed on the production and accidentally put 63 degrees (maybe should be 36 degrees...oddly enough the average low in June for NYC is 63 degrees) or it was too expensive to film as if it were in the middle of winter and cold, but short of that, its there for a reason.

All the references to ice-cold Slusho's, the freezing cold depths of the ocean floor where the secret ingredient is found and how important it is to keep it frozen or very cold are continually referenced and cannot be ignored. The same goes for the temperature on that fateful night (early morning)...It's that warm for a reason.

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 		Re: 63 degrees of separation ...
Chump Force 1 wrote:

I'm willing to accept either the possibility that someone goofed on the production and accidentally put 63 degrees (maybe should be 36 degrees...oddly enough the average low in June for NYC is 63 degrees) or it was too expensive to film as if it were in the middle of winter and cold, but short of that, its there for a reason.


I could buy the typo theory, too -- IF that was the only indicator that it was actually 63 degrees outside. But keep in mind:

--that everyone is DRESSED like it's 63 degrees at midnight (no coats; no hats; short sleeves and short dresses in some cases);
--there's no indication AT ALL that it's cold outside (no frost, no ice, no snow, no breath fogging, not even anyone shivering in the nonexistent "cold");
--and, for that matter, where the *@*!( are all the Christmas lights??? I'm sorry, but in this day and age, NOBODY in America takes down their damn Christmas lights 'til at least Valentine's Day...least of all retailers, who are still trying to drag out the overextended holiday season as long as possible.

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 		Re: 63 degrees of separation ...
brettoniasam wrote:
Chump Force 1 wrote:

I'm willing to accept either the possibility that someone goofed on the production and accidentally put 63 degrees (maybe should be 36 degrees...oddly enough the average low in June for NYC is 63 degrees) or it was too expensive to film as if it were in the middle of winter and cold, but short of that, its there for a reason.


I could buy the typo theory, too -- IF that was the only indicator that it was actually 63 degrees outside. But keep in mind:

--that everyone is DRESSED like it's 63 degrees at midnight (no coats; no hats; short sleeves and short dresses in some cases);
--there's no indication AT ALL that it's cold outside (no frost, no ice, no snow, no breath fogging, not even anyone shivering in the nonexistent "cold");
--and, for that matter, where the *@*!( are all the Christmas lights??? I'm sorry, but in this day and age, NOBODY in America takes down their damn Christmas lights 'til at least Valentine's Day...least of all retailers, who are still trying to drag out the overextended holiday season as long as possible.


Bingo.

Especially the point about the Christmas lights.

It is US, the ARGers, who have made the release date important. Forget the timestamps. They are there simply as a reference point.
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 		The monster's name is BLOOBI!
I don't think this has been mentioned before... if it has, sorry.
Have we ever considered that 1-18-08 might actually be letters and the name of the monster? And not necessarily the date of anything? I appreciate the clever thinking on here - I guess we are jumping to the conclusion that the date is in January, but if 1-18-08 is not meant to be a date but is something else, then that would make sense that it would appear on the pictures, to communicate something other than a date.

For instance if you turn the numbers into letters (like that old gag of spelling boobs or seashell on a calculator) you can get:

I-IB-OB
or
L-LB-OB (BLLOB?)
or
L-IB-OB (BILBO? LIBOB?)

If you use 01-18-08 you can get even more combos. Anyways... just thought I'd point it out.

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 		anyone tried lookin into the pictures and things stuck on the fridge behind rob in one part of the trailer? Might be something there. I seen a advert with ding Dong on it. But only found reference to a NY nightclub which websites seem OG.

anyone found anything more regarding the rest of the stuff.

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 		has anyone looked into what drone41279 has been saying about this "super human" article that he found??? if you look on the Tagruato website, there is a link for a news story about the old persons home, and a baseball team that seem to have superhuman strength after injecting, and drinking slusho! i think that there will definitely be something in the plot that has to deal with something along the lines of the military or tagruato using slusho! to create these super human people along with the monster. then again, i am new to this game and i might be talking out my ars.... has anybody else thought along these lines??

*again i apologize if this is in the wrong spot in the forums, i am the new guy...

happy hunting to everyone! Very Happy

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 		Re: 63 degrees of separation ...
Chump Force 1 wrote:
The same goes for the temperature on that fateful night (early morning)...It's that warm for a reason.


Yea, global warming and El Nino.

Perhaps the Cloverfield beast has been unthawed from the unique weather patterns that have been in play through out the past century.

Maybe the drilling is a red herring, or just wears global warmings clothes as a metaphor (ie. drilling is part of the cause of global warming, so part of the cause of the monster...although indirectly).
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 		Re: 63 degrees of separation ...
Dr. Awkward wrote:
Chump Force 1 wrote:
The same goes for the temperature on that fateful night (early morning)...It's that warm for a reason.


Yea, global warming and El Nino.

Perhaps the Cloverfield beast has been unthawed from the unique weather patterns that have been in play through out the past century.

Maybe the drilling is a red herring, or just wears global warmings clothes as a metaphor (ie. drilling is part of the cause of global warming, so part of the cause of the monster...although indirectly).


Al Gore is the monster and he uses his Nobel Peace Prize to destroy New York.

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 		Re: 63 degrees of separation ...
Chump Force 1 wrote:
Dr. Awkward wrote:
Chump Force 1 wrote:
The same goes for the temperature on that fateful night (early morning)...It's that warm for a reason.


Yea, global warming and El Nino.

Perhaps the Cloverfield beast has been unthawed from the unique weather patterns that have been in play through out the past century.

Maybe the drilling is a red herring, or just wears global warmings clothes as a metaphor (ie. drilling is part of the cause of global warming, so part of the cause of the monster...although indirectly).


Al Gore is the monster and he uses his Nobel Peace Prize to destroy New York.


That bastard Confused
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 		Re: 63 degrees of separation ...
Chump Force 1 wrote:
Al Gore is the monster and he uses his Nobel Peace Prize to destroy New York.

Now that'd be a grand irony.
Bit like being run over by an ambulance.
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