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BrigandRansom
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can anyone get a good look at the image that's in the center of all the printouts with lots of green lines leading to it?

edit: durr it's the wired cover, nevermind

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:32 pm
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braun
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By the way, what is PM supposed to stand for?

All I know are Prime Minister and Private Message, neither of which apply to trinstod.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:04 am
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BrigandRansom
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I take it this is your first ARG? Very Happy

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:07 am
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Quanzi wrote:

Next is the big scan across all the print outs. To the left of them is a printed out picture that looks like some kind of drawing of a bird, maybe a peacock?




To me, the image on the left side of the peacock (bird? duck?) is very similar to the images I've seen of Hindi goddesses. what do you think?

edited to add:
-->22% of Trinidad & Tobago population practice Hinduism.
-->Saraswati is the Hindu Goddess of knowledge and she rides a swan or a peacock, she also symbolizes fertility and prosperity.
-->wiki says this about the swan and peacock:
Quote:
A white swan is often located next to her feet. The sacred swan, if offered a mixture of milk and water, is said to be able to drink the milk alone. The swan thus symbolizes discrimination between the good and the bad or the eternal and the evanescent. Due to her association with the swan, Goddess Saraswati is also referred to as Hamsa-vahini, which means "she who has a swan as her vehicle".
She is usually depicted near a flowing river, which may be related to her early history as a water goddess. The swan and her association with the lotus flower also point to her ancient origin.
Sometimes a peacock is shown beside the goddess. The peacock represents arrogance and pride over its beauty, and by having a peacock as her mount, the Goddess teaches Hindus not to be concerned with external appearance and to be wise regarding the eternal truth.

probably important because the fowl is pictured much larger than the goddess in this picture (IF this train of thought leads anywhere, that is...)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:32 am
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This is my first ARG, so i have little to contribute, and in truth i'm just observing.

People seem to be overlooking things. What are those things he's throwing at the guy in the first movie? What are the bubbles for in the second? Do these things matter?

I would assume the bubbles matter, because they would probably take some ammount of effort to put in.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:06 am
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Admittedly, I'm not terribly experienced with ARGs myself. I found ilovebees after Halo 2 came out, watched Halo 3: Iris unfold and have read Year Zero, I'm just happy I'm in on the ground floor of a game for once.

Supposedly the things being thrown in #001 are Swedish phones.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:59 am
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i dont think trinstod is from TT, since he printed out pages from the swedish forum flashback in #002. It was also from a swedish IRC channel the video was first discovered.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:18 am
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EnochHeathNLI
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I forgot to attach yesterday

here is my annotation I meant to attach to yesterdays post, but left out:

[img]http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=003ishce1.jpg[/img]

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:06 am
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EnochHeath
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Jeremy Zawodny 'Adorable Cat Pictures'
Detailed Analysis...

EDIT: A concern has been raised to me (which I actually thought about whilst posting) that the images were too large for those with slower connections or smaller resolutions. As a result I have turned them into links to each respective image - this seemed easier than re-editing them all and re-uploading. Smile

So, on the 16th, the same day as the release of the second video, Jeremy Zawodny posted 13 pictures of his cat Thunder. "Adorably Cat".

13 pictures - 1st Video released on the 13th October.

Archive:

http://flickr.com/photos/jzawodn/archives/date-taken/2007/10/15/

I have gone through each picture on its highest resolution and pulled the following information from each one. One thing I noticed is that Mr Zawodny leaves his lap top open and in clear view for several of the pictures. If I was taking photos of my cat, wouldn't I want to take them on the couch/bed or similar...? It just seems nicely set up Smile

Picture 1.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/568/pic1vx6.jpg
Print out dates, email and map location content.

Picture 2.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6209/pic2qf8.jpg
High def email plus text and map contents.

Mo Kakwan - Written about in the email from Vicky/Ricky to Jeremy is the FOUNDER of the website Blabberize (also mentioned):

Mo: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8545/mofq3.jpg

http://www.blabberize.com

A video of Mo can be seen here answering questions about Blabberize:

http://hyveupguestroom.blogspot.com/2007/10/mokakwanblabberize.html

3 Photos of Mo Kakwan appear on Flikr tagged under his name:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/mokakwan/

Picture 3 seemingly contains no useful information.

Picture 4.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1783/pic4nl4.jpg
Clear print out date.

Pictures 5, 6, 7 and 8 seem to have no useful information.

Picture 9.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3096/pic9nv7.jpg
Screen content: McAlistairs Blog (See Picture 2).

The blog Jeremy is reading can be found here:

http://www.mattmcalister.com/blog/

It turns out Jeremy also has a Twitter account:

http://twitter.com/jzawodn

Picture 10 seems to offer nothing that was not already present in 9.

Picture 11.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6017/pic11xm4.jpg
Detail on print out content and a confirmed 'location' of sorts.

Picture 12.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8079/pic12jo6.jpg
Print out dates and Data Recovery screen.

Picture 13 seems to offer us no knew information.

Retrospective studying whilst uploading images led me to clearly see this:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4115/mapoh4.jpg
'Location' match up.

EDIT: 1061 Blossom Hill is the location for a business called Elegant Lace Bridals. This lessens the chances of it being Trinstods location, but ties in with the mentioning of the 'gowns'.

Well I hope that this was helpful to you all.

One thig I did notice was that Jeremy Zawodny is using Firefox as a browser, NOT Opera!

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to tell you the truth, I'm not understanding why you're starting at the JeremyZ angle and working backwards. i saw no real connection other than he had a a phrase on his blog that said "i had a dream about Google" or something like that. I've seen other forums that go back as far as 2002 that refer to having a dream about Google, but i don't think it has anything to do with trinstod.

did i miss something?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:06 pm
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Okay, I think I have a theory earlier in the this discussion someone mentioned that if they tried to log into trinstod's account they discovered that it was protected. Then there is the fact that the Wired magazine has lonelygirl15 on the cover. I can only assume that he is trying to tell us that this is fake. Much like the lonelygirl15 story. Of course, I have something else I realized, CICS in some places is pronounced kicks. Could he be saying that is just for kicks. Random babbling I know but thats all we got.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:22 pm
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EnochHeath
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Connections
Jeremy - Trinstod

Quote:
I'm not understanding why you're starting at the JeremyZ angle


JeremyZ and his connection as I see it:

1. I had a dream about google.
2. Jeremy has worked alot in Data structures - crossing the two brings correlation. CICS, the result in Trinstod's search is heavely laden in Data Structures.
3. Jeremy is employed by Yahoo - the YouTube account is protected - this has been verified as 99% of the time it means that the person is an admin or employee Yahoo, Google, or Youtube.
4. Jeremy has a rather adorable cat which featured solely on his 16th October posting - save adorable cat. (13 pictures - 13th)
6. Jeremy's dream was of Yahoo aquiring Google. Google aquired YouTube - the source of Trinstod.

At this point with SO little to go, why not explore every alley until #003?

Quote:
Then there is the fact that the Wired magazine has lonelygirl15 on the cover. I can only assume that he is trying to tell us that this is fake. Much like the lonelygirl15 story.


Maybe he/she is letting those in the know (ARG Players) that this IS an ARG.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:29 pm
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An0n
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This, my first ARG, and being correct on a couple of points (and my posts being on #002 Very Happy ) have prompted me to create an account.

OK, here we go:

- The post I made about Googlewhacks was boldly circled in green and connected with an arrow to the lonelygirl15 Wired cover - I think we may be neglecting this fact. Googlewhacks may be a big clue in solving this. Or maybe it was just a statement that the word "trinstod" had been chosen for that very reason. Or could it be that we are missing a vital clue in that document or where it was hosted?

- I'm guessing that there are actually three people involved - PM's or whatever. Remember the last post on Jeremy Z's "I had a dream..." post?
Quote:
I had a dream that was getting kidnapped and these three guy were going to kill me!

on March 15, 2005 09:22 AM

I think it's safe to say that Jeremy is involved - everywhere we are directed is connected to Yahoo, Google and Youtube, plus everyone is saying that there are exciting changes afoot at Yahoo.

And thus ends my stream of consciousness for now...

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re: blabberize.com that's got the the cutest site (but most worthless) i've seen in a while. love the alpaca!
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EnochHeath
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An0n wrote:

- I'm guessing that there are actually three people involved - PM's or whatever. Remember the last post on Jeremy Z's "I had a dream..." post?
Quote:
I had a dream that was getting kidnapped and these three guy were going to kill me!

on March 15, 2005 09:22 AM

I think it's safe to say that Jeremy is involved - everywhere we are directed is connected to Yahoo, Google and Youtube, plus everyone is saying that there are exciting changes afoot at Yahoo.


This is a very good point you bring up, and I had not noticed this kidnap part of the dream. Could this be some kind of premonition of events to come? Maybe the videos 'are' the dream OR there is an idea of time-play, in that these events are yet to unfold and we must 'save' Jeremy? This idea would tie in with Jeremy idly noting that he is involved in some kind of 'conspiracy' - the wheel is set in motion...

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