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[SPEC] A weird splice job by Cloverfield...

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smartmart
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hmghosthoost wrote:

Arkaham wrote:

That makes more sense. And watching the trailer carefully Lena's hairstyle does matches the one in the picture.

But the picture is not that moment. In the picture the makeup of the girls is already ruined. They're dirty and had been crying. In the trailer they have just left the happy party.

I still don't think is her, but now I'm not sure. So I guess is another unanswered question in the long cloverfield list of questions...

Arkaham, that at least was a fair and honest response, Thank you!! Smile

To the others.....

There are only two females standing with Rob on the street scene in the trailer. One of them is standing next to him, the other behind him. It is certain that the one standing next to him is in the picture in question. However, the woman behind them looks NOTHING like the one in the picture. If there is any other female present, it is not seen in the trailor and therefore no one has evidence to the contrary.

As someone else perfectly noted, this picture (along with ALL of the pictures found at 1-18-08.com) was not taken from the trailor. Each of the pictures are a separate glimpse into other scenes in the movie. Therefore it makes perfect sense that you see no mascara runs in the trailor but mascara runs in the picture - which obviously means the picture was taken sometime after the trailer scene. HOWEVER, because the monster attack is so very close to where they are standing, logic concludes that the trailer scene and the photo could not have been shot more than a few minutes apart from each other before the crowd would have left and run for safety. Note that before the head of Liberty even comes their way, Rob has already fled the scene.

Additionally, whether or not the two faces in the picture are the same or different women, there are a number of too-convenient "coincidences" and outright evidences on the original picture itself which shows that it has been tampered with at the source before it was placed on the 1-18-08 site.
1) the background image at the top-center between the two heads does not match the rest of the picture, evidencing a cut&paste job was done here. Why, if not to fill in space that did not exist before the face was cut in two and pasted side by side on opposite ends?
2) with the exception of the cut&pasted background at the top, the entire center of the picture is totally blacked out even though their faces are fully illuminated, indicating intentional cover up of the center vertical splice line.
3) the two faces are cut straight down the middle of their noses making the most obvious indication of a switch-a-roo with two sides of the same face. IF these are two different people, why are only half their faces shown? AND why are both faces cut PERFECTLY straight down the middle?
4) the two faces match - not "sort of" - but PERFECTLY when placed side by side.
5) by the slightest angle of both face sides, the masacara run on one side, the slightly disheveled hair on one side, and the lighting change on the face (which is NOT a variation is SKIN COLOR), it is evident that these pictures were taken of the same person at slightly different times but certainly while the person was watching the same event while standing in the same place.
6) none of the faces of the identifiable females in the trailer or official pictures are anywhere similar to that of the small and dainty features of the woman standing next to Rob in the street (and she is certainly at least ONE of the faces in the picture, if not both).
7) it's astounding that no one can see this most REAL and obvious of all clues, yet the whole web is in an uproar over an IMAGINARY face in the hair.
Cool

the eyes of both sides of the face are BROWN, not blue or green.
9) the hair of both sides of the face is DARK, not blonde.
10) the lips and teeth of both sides of the face are identical.
11) the ball of the nose tip in both sides of teh face are identical.
12) the size and shape of the nostrils are identical.
13) the slopes of the cheeks next to the nose are identical.
14) THE LIGHTING/shadow under the nose on the upper lip passes clearly from one side to the other when the two sides of the piccture are put together to form a single face
15) the arches of the nose in both sides of the face are identical.
16 ) the eyebrows in both sides of the face perfectly match those of the woman standing outside next to Rob.
17) the sharp drop of the cheekbone and flatness of the main portions of the cheeks in both sides of the face are absolutely identical.
18 ) the face outline in both sides show that the chin would terminate in the same place.
19) If multiple actors are in fact being use for the same characters, I doubt J.J. Abrams would be stupid enough to accidently show the stand in doubles in such an important photo being used as a clue on their site.

20 ) Like each of you, I am here to share my opinion - not to seek anyone's approval of it

I'm sorry, but even if I agree with you on some of the points you mentionned, I continue to believe this pictures feature two different girls. The fact? Their eyes. Human body is symmetrical in nature. You can't have a different eye morphology between your left eye and your right eye. Look closely at the picture and will easily see that the left girl as a diffrent eye shape and opening than the right girl. The left one is more round and the right one as a more elliptic shape and it is easily observable by the lower eyelid curvature.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:15 pm

smartmart
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lol I just saw we all thought about the eyes at the same time...

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:18 pm

hmghosthoost
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Re: WOW

mhovis wrote:

How much can be written aboout a picture that may or may not be the same person. Even if it is. What then? A picture of 1 instead of 2 people.
This does nothing to further the cause.

How much can I write about one picture? Well, a lot. You need evidence to support a theory. I've provided nearly two dozen specific evidences. Those who object to my opinion have provided not so much as one, but have chosen instead to ridicule me with personal pot shots.

We are meant to be looking for clues, and that is what I am doing. I just think everyone is missing the boat. One of the biggest clues (irregardless of its meaning) is this spliced picture, yet everyone on the net focused on the imaginary face between the two sides of her face - totally off base. I can see JJAbrams laughing his butt off that everyone is looking right at his clue and yet seeing something totally different that has nothing to do with it.

And quite frankly, anyone who isn't interested in looking for the clues or discussing them, why bother even being a part of any conversation about them, unless the intent is to tease and make fun of people who ARE interested. I'm having fun with this movie game and I could care less about anyone who has a problem with that because I'm not here to make anyone happy but myself; and if anyone doesn't like something that makes me happy, it's not my problem.

I've been reading everyone's smart mouthed responses to my original post and wonder where in the heck they get off thinking that their opinion is superior to anyone else's.

When I asked for people's opinion about the theory I presented,
THE CORRECT RESPONSE IS "I agree because..." or "I disagree because...",
and THE INCORRECT RESPONSE IS to tell me off, call me names, and insult me just because someone doesn't like my theory.

Since NO one knows ANYTHING, no one has the place to tell ANYONE that their personal opinion is wrong about a dang movie that hasn't even come out yet.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:27 pm
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hakx
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The only reason I disagree about the splicing theory is that I cant think of any reason that it was done. Maybe if when the pictures where ut back together you where able to see something in it then I would completely agree with your ideas, but since nothing has been found regarding this and since it has been looked at over and over again (not just on this forum) I think if something was going to be found regarding this it would have been found already.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:34 pm

hmghosthoost
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smartmart wrote:

Ok, so I'll repeat myself for you,

if you'll notice, the variation of eye shapes is an illusion caused by the angle of her face (the right side is further away and will look smaller)...

and by the squinting of the left eye (bringing the lower eye lid up a little)...

and by the mascara smear on the left eye (which makes the lower eye lid look different from the right eye)....

and by the time delay between shots and the gap cut out at the center of the face...

But notice how perfectly the eyelashes of the TOP lids match!

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:35 pm
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hmghosthoost
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hakx wrote:

Ahhhh, I seeeee! So, because YOU can't think of a reason for the splicing (even though the splicing is evident right on the picture), then it obviously has no purpose.

PLEASE everyone, let's start thinking outside the box of our brain.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:41 pm

hakx
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No not since "I" cant think of anything. Its because there is nothing there. Why dont you take a look at the picture again and tell us what you see. Do you see the montster?? Do you see anything that might help this forum?? I know you see a monster in their hair. There is nothing gained by splicing the photos and proving that it is or is not the same girl. It i not going to be the tell all of all the clues that are out there that paramount was having fun with a photo. I just dont see the relevance of it.

OK so lets all agree that its the same girl and lets all sit here and stare at this picture until someone sees something that is going to give us our next big clue.

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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:50 pm

mjames
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Wow, we have disagreements on here everyday, there is no reason for berating eachother. Not even everyone agrees that there is a monster in her/their hair. Just post your theory and if someone responds, make a casual response back. But if it's going to be B.S.

like this, take it to PrivMess

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:58 pm

Ecks51
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hmghosthoost wrote:

Ok, so I'll repeat myself for you,

if you'll notice, the variation of eye shapes is an illusion caused by the angle of her face (the right side is further away and will look smaller)...

It's all smoke and mirrors. It's a movie. Why does it look like the girls have their faces split down the middle? Because pictures have vertical sides, and the camera operator took a clean shot.

When will this end? Leave the girls and their monster alone.

This has been beaten to death already ... months ago.

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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:19 pm

Dr. Awkward
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What difference does it make...

If the photos shopped or otherwise...who cares.

This is like arguing over the overtly obvious waterbear in the mirrored image poster... Very Happy

You've stated yur opinion...we confirmed that it indeed sucks.
That's what we do here.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

I'm kidding...lighten up a lil'.

I love clues as much as the next guy, but the "evidence" that's being postulated isn't worth two bits without a case to lend support to.

Bring something to the table or lay off the Slusho!

People entertain these forums to interact with the viral marketing and have fun...as well as practice the fine art of internet sarcasm/wit.

If you can't beat 'em...might as well join 'em.

Contrary to popular opinion, every post is superior to the previous post....
until a new post is posted, then it's superceded... (ehvry botty no dat - Joe Dirt)

hmghosthoost wrote:

...if anyone doesn't like something that makes me happy, it's not my problem.

It's almost as if you stole a line from the Neverland Ranch incident...

Careful with yur rantin'...over zealous, self-justified tactics like this make me thank Jezuz for my disdain towards religion - pharisee.

Just turn the other cheek... Wink

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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:21 pm

hmghosthoost
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Ok, look at these and remember the embedded hidden words on SlushoZoom.com: "ALL IS NOT AS IT APPEARS"

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:52 pm

Dr. Awkward
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Ethan Haas WAS right...
not

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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:55 pm

hmghosthoost
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hakx wrote:

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And what is the purpose of the number six and the cheese and the mitten and the hammer and all the other clues they gave us? You don't know. I don't know. None of us knows YET. So just because you don't understand why something is the way it is doesn't mean that it isn't really there. JEEZZZ WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE? Haven't you got the slightest shred of imagination? you are so dang LITERAL (and yes, I must say, anal) that you don't even know what a game is. It is a game about a movie wheere we find clues. Don't throw a clue out just because you dont understand it yet! My brain is doing summersaults at the total lack of perception and understanding of you high minded folks!

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:57 pm

hmghosthoost
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Re: What difference does it make...

Dr. Awkward wrote:

Wow, that's almost exactly what I was going to say to YOU folks.

Why is it that you think you have the right to tell me what I can and cannot say? Would you like for me to start telling YOU to shut up (which is in essence what you are doing to me)?

And what the heck does religion have anything to do with this? What ever religion I follow - if Iactually follow it - is my business, not yours, just as yours is your business. STOP WITH THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS. WE ARE DISCUSSING A MOVIE, NOT EACH OTHER'S PERSONAL FAITHS.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:08 pm
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Re: Ethan Haas WAS right...
not

Dr. Awkward wrote:

Then you are totally blind and my pitty to you.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:09 pm

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