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Why Aren't People Having Fun?
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Wandering Star
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Why Aren't People Having Fun?

Maybe it's just me, but the anger, unhappiness, and controversy in IRC last night just seemed a tad unnecessary.

What is this? It's an ARG. Yet people are arguing over who got the better gift, who the cards "like" more, and who is getting the most attention. People are mad at the 2 of clubs because he was "rude" to analogwatch.

Are we overlooking everything here, folks?

This is an ARG, and thus far, it's blowing... my... mind.

We've had the internet, videos, phone calls, voicemails, packages, and now...

(wait for it)

..an IN-PERSON MEETING WITH ONE OF THE CHARACTERS!

I don't care how brief it was, or how "rude" he was or whatever. Am I the only one not missing the point? A character crossed over! This is the first ARG I've been a part of where someone got to meet a character face-to-face. And all we can do is complain about it because he wasn't nice? Because he walked away quickly? Because he didn't do a song and dance? What?

Who ever said the cards had to be nice? If anything, I'm a little disappointed that more of them aren't trying to agitate us more. I'm a little disappointed one of them isn't playing devil's advocate yet. People's feelings are getting hurt because the 2 of spades is being "mean" or whatever? Come on, people. They're characters. Some of them will be nice, some of them will be too nice, some of them will be brief, some of them will be short with us, and (I HOPE) some of them may be downright mean.

How fun is an adventure where everything is happy and goes perfectly and according to plan? Huh? That's not a novel. It's a children's bedtime story. Lame.

I, for one, am thrilled with the latest developments, and wish more people could feel the same way.

We have heroes, we have villains (The Korp), we have plot twists, we've had a "good guy" go bad (6C, apparently), we have treasures (gifts), we have our little community, we have a developing story, AND... AND...

(again, wait for it)

...THE RABBIT HOLE HASN'T EVEN OPENED YET.

I don't know what everyone is so unhappy with. I am having a blast. Granted, if I find out this is all a giant ad for some new beer or something, I'm going to be sorely disappointed, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. For now, I am holding on tight, and enjoying every... single... twist and turn. I suggest you do likewise, or get off the roller coaster.

I appreciate you guys and hate to see people being so unhappy with something like this that's supposed to be fun.

(Note: NONE of this message was directed at any one person. It's directed at this group as a whole.)


Wandering*

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:59 pm
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kafkaguy
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Wanderingstar... should we be having fun the whole time? I'm ecstatic and for a nerd who doesn't have a lot of folks in the vicinity to share his esoteric interests with this community is beyond killer. The story is amazing and the depth of ideas that have sprung from me since I became re-obsessed with silverladder is mindblowing. I've been a silverladder devotee for years and now the chance to meet others who are on the same trek?... that's fun...

but at the same time i've felt the rollercoaster of emotion.

[I just thought about the game. Therefore I lost the game. You have heard me now, therefore you also lose the game. Enjoy playing the game.]

Sometimes I'm frustrated and feel like I'm just a tangential part of the experience, but the journey is just beginning and already I'm anticipating the next plot twist in this alternate reality.

I agree with your concern though. For this thing to thrive, like Lovelump, BSP and Silverladder... it MUST be hydrated, that is watered. And the element water represents love. This is, I believe, a learning experience and a magic mirror where you get what you give, but we'll all get the most out of it if we reduce our petty squabbles and work together as a team and learn to form a community within.

Here's hoping this thrives, grows, evolves, devolves, crashes of a cliff, is resurrected, becomes mayor, rises to antichrist and is then salvaged by the love of PLUR and AICL.

bis dann,
philipdskff/kafkaguy

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:14 pm
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Wandering Star
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I guess "having fun" wasn't the right term. I should have said "enjoy" or better yet, "appreciate." When you're angry, sad, agitated, etc. you're not necessarily having fun. But what ARE you doing? FEELING something, for goodness' sake! When's the last time a network sitcom did that for you? At least this thing is evoking emotions. People need to appreciate that fact. I view this thing like a good book that doesn't have a conclusion written yet. Each sentence starts getting formed as you get to it. I may not LIKE what some of the characters do. Hell, I may not LIKE where the whole plot goes sometimes. But I am appreciating what is behind it all. Emotions (even negative ones) are better than the alternative... emptiness. Trust me, I'll take being mad or sad over feeling nothingness ANYDAY.


Wandering*

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:21 pm
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Metabolic
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I'll give a hoo-ha for that wandering.

*hoo-ha!*

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:28 pm
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Freezestate
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Whoa, drama in the IRC? Oh my, gotta read the logs...

I find this as ridiculous and immature as drama about the Top Friends. Like Wandering said, you're missing the entire damn point, and since we've run out of things to analyze as far as what the nature of The Rabbit Hole is going to be you've started analyzing the cards actions towards each individual.

Come on guys, sometimes things need to be taken at face value. Knowing when you need to start analyzing is sometimes more important than how or how well you do it. Don't get caught up on tiny details that have nothing to do with the larger picture, get caught up in the inertia that we're gathering as a team.

Again, Wandering is right... Look at all that has come, and this isn't even the beginning of the real beginning of Silver Ladder.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:35 pm
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kafkaguy
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Wayne Coyne of the Flaming Lips said of Bonnaroo, the music festival and all festivals in general that they shouldn't always be FUN, but we should enjoy or at least RELISH the Feeling. I agree the emotions evoked, the creepy twinge of paranoia and the excitement at what will develop next have driven me further within the rabbit hole.

But I believe many of the dedicated people involved in this thing are at least quite appreciative of the chance to be involved. And yes, it is like an unfinished book or that game where everybody writes a sentence and the story is collaborated upon based on what came before...

here's hoping the team can stick through the rollercoaster of emotions which I'm sure has only just begun...

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:38 pm
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Kaldais
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Being constantly surrounded by the same people has the same problems on IRC as it does in life. You notice people's faults more and more, and you start to get angry over them for no apparent reason. It happens when any group of only vaguely similar people get together to do something for a prolonged period of time. Sooner or later, everything breaks into fights.

That being said, however, I think we work pretty well despite it. Conflict is inevitable among humans, but we always seem to forgive each other and get back to the matter at hand.

So no, I don't see drama. I see us overcoming obstacles that could be breaking us apart.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:12 pm
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nbnewell
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Hmm, I think that the things you say last evening Star just didn't translate well to text for you.

Most of the comments about cards irritating people etc were made in jest. Yes there were some comments, but they were more conjecture than complaining. Of course, some of us took advantage of the situation to try and lure out a direct comment from the Aces as well.

Admittedly, there is the occasional personality conflict. But I saw that happen only once yesterday and it was brief. For the most part we have leaned to no take chat seriously. It is more of a place to connect and blow off steam. I am sorry if you got a negative vibe from chat, but I can assure you none of it was meant that way. Again, text doesn't always translate well and can be mis-interpreted easily.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:26 pm
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anonymousloli
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Kaldais wrote:
Being constantly surrounded by the same people has the same problems on IRC as it does in life. You notice people's faults more and more, and you start to get angry over them for no apparent reason. It happens when any group of only vaguely similar people get together to do something for a prolonged period of time. Sooner or later, everything breaks into fights.

That being said, however, I think we work pretty well despite it. Conflict is inevitable among humans, but we always seem to forgive each other and get back to the matter at hand.

So no, I don't see drama. I see us overcoming obstacles that could be breaking us apart.


<3 Here here!

We not only need to stop getting irritated so often, but we also really need to let the fights that do happen, we need to let them go. I apologized to Nikki for my idiocy, and at least I think we get along a lot better. XD

You have to try to be more understanding of everything, and if that's hard or you had a hard day, we have to be understanding of that, too.

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JaeDom
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 Hey Guys
Let's spread some love (and butter)

Um, every time I go in IRC I sit down with a big bowl of popcorn and some sodie pop. And I just enjoy the show! Laughing

But isn't silverladder doing great job. They have our emotions, whether good or bad, and isn't that what an ARG is suppose to do? I might say something here or there about not getting an email response or whatever but it seriously doesn't matter, as long as someone else does. That's what counts. We are a group in this together. I am so happy for watch meeting with 2C even if I NEVER get to meet a card who is out here in southern California. I am so happy that scare and watch got things even if I never will. I am so ecstatic that a few of you guys receive loving emails and good emailed conversations even if I never get a response or just get a one line response. Let's all just be thankful and support others. Plus, it makes me want to try harder to get a response! Wink


And I think IRC should be (for the most part) taken lightly. I joke around more oft in there than anywhere else.

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