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[SPEC][NEW?] Bold Futura Website Open
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m0r1arty
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 		Blue balled up to my eyebrows
Not yet, and I'm thinking of giving up for now...

I've now learned as much as possible about 'black spinning bipedal blue ball catching robot flash animations' as I can take, all without result. Although 'blue ball machine' was quite enjoyable for a while there.

If someone has SoThink Decompiler, they might have left the original name on the robot animation. I don't have it here though.

-m0r

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Euchre
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I agree with your assessment of the history. When I read it this morning that's the first place I went to compare the two (Tagruato). It's deliberately vague, it doesn't say that BF was formed in 1989 it says that the first pillars were conceived and laid. This is a direct transcript from their site:


Quote:
The pillars of Bold Futura were first
conceived and laid in 1989 by
principals from The Tagruato
Corporation, Yoshida Medical
Research and The Nakamura Group.
Bold Futura is now creating the
standard in the new millennium.


Although the site copyright says 1989-2007, the history is short but well written and leaves quit a bit open for interpretation. Especially the Nakamur Group thing and the Nanotechnology and bioengineering. Other than that it doesn't have a lot of content and is likely OOG.

Ah, but you missed part of what I was saying about the two histories in comparison:
Euchre wrote:
f you read the Tagruato history correctly, the renaming of the company didn't come about until 15 years after 1989, which would be 2004. Implications are that the subsidiaries also didn't appear until after that later date.

The Tagruato Corporation name wasn't in place in 1989 according to how the Tagruato history is written. The Bold Futura site's history places the company under that name in 1989. Hence the continuity error.

The only edit performed in my copy of the transcript from the Bold Futura site was to remove the line breaks that forced the text to fit in the column space on the Flash site.

The Nakamura thing is a bit odd, as there's no reference to it that I can find on the Tagruato site. The only potential relationships I find are Chef Nakamura and a character on Heroes. I think someone is trying to be clever by including what they feel are plausible enough 'clues' to something 'new'.
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Arkaham
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 		That robot is annoing, but the site is pretty nice. I keep saying that I won't consider this IG until tagruato links to it, but given their effort, I'm willing to play along. So I'll write a mail to their contact address, asking about further robotic information.



hmghosthoost wrote:
Does everyone here have a set of rules for the PM's that must be abided by? Perhaps Paramount is not aware of your rules for governing their game, and this is why the new site doesn't have what everyone demands.

Shame on you, Paramount! Bad puppy!! You aren't allowed to do this YOUR way! Who do you think you are?


Come on hmg. You are an inteligent poster when you want to, but you're becoming more and more annoing. Instead of cooperating with the discussions you keep trying to insult everyone, as if you want to provoke people. I'm about to simply start ignoring everything you say. Please, come back to the light side.
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The Tagruato Corporation name wasn't in place in 1989 according to how the Tagruato history is written. The Bold Futura site's history places the company under that name in 1989. Hence the continuity error.

The only edit performed in my copy of the transcript from the Bold Futura site was to remove the line breaks that forced the text to fit in the column space on the Flash site.

The Nakamura thing is a bit odd, as there's no reference to it that I can find on the Tagruato site. The only potential relationships I find are Chef Nakamura and a character on Heroes. I think someone is trying to be clever by including what they feel are plausible enough 'clues' to something 'new'.


All valid points! It does imply on Tagruato that the diversification happened after the name change in 2004. It seems that many of the sites are incomplete. Don't get me wrong I do believe that Tagruato is IG, but there are still many things about it and Slusho that I have questions about.
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 		Re: Blue balled up to my eyebrows
m0r1arty wrote:
Not yet, and I'm thinking of giving up for now...

I've now learned as much as possible about 'black spinning bipedal blue ball catching robot flash animations' as I can take, all without result. Although 'blue ball machine' was quite enjoyable for a while there.

If someone has SoThink Decompiler, they might have left the original name on the robot animation. I don't have it here though.

-m0r

I had a looksy using flash decompiler 2.0, all of the images are named: image xxx (numbers)
The robot animation do looks familiar, I think ive seen it before, kinda reminds me of alienware

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m0r1arty
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 		I'm thinking 2Advanced or something similar myself.

Cheers for looking into the file - shame it's a dead un.

I still think it's OOG as it was only registered recently and that's poor planning on the PMs side.

-m0r

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CloverfieldClues.com
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Euchre wrote:
The Nakamura thing is a bit odd, as there's no reference to it that I can find on the Tagruato site. The only potential relationships I find are Chef Nakamura and a character on Heroes. I think someone is trying to be clever by including what they feel are plausible enough 'clues' to something 'new'.


I would be surprised if they are trying to introduce another new company, without fleshing out the Tagruato site more, or maybe Paraffun.

Another piece of evidence pointing to OOG: The spelling error on the front page!



It should read LATEST, not LASTEST! Laughing

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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
Euchre wrote:
The Nakamura thing is a bit odd, as there's no reference to it that I can find on the Tagruato site. The only potential relationships I find are Chef Nakamura and a character on Heroes. I think someone is trying to be clever by including what they feel are plausible enough 'clues' to something 'new'.


I would be surprised if they are trying to introduce another new company, without fleshing out the Tagruato site more, or maybe Paraffun.

Another piece of evidence pointing to OOG: The spelling error on the front page!



It should read LATEST, not LASTEST! Laughing


as much as i agree with this being OOG, just remember that there were spelling errors on some of the sites that are confirmed IG Very Happy

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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
Euchre wrote:
The Nakamura thing is a bit odd, as there's no reference to it that I can find on the Tagruato site. The only potential relationships I find are Chef Nakamura and a character on Heroes. I think someone is trying to be clever by including what they feel are plausible enough 'clues' to something 'new'.


I would be surprised if they are trying to introduce another new company, without fleshing out the Tagruato site more, or maybe Paraffun.

Another piece of evidence pointing to OOG: The spelling error on the front page!



It should read LATEST, not LASTEST! Laughing


I've had that page up all morning and never noticed. Can't see my nose for my face I guess. Good eye!
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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
I would be surprised if they are trying to introduce another new company, without fleshing out the Tagruato site more, or maybe Paraffun.

Another piece of evidence pointing to OOG: The spelling error on the front page!



It should read LATEST, not LASTEST! Laughing

Thanks again to another player for pointing me on another vector of discovery.
The items listed as 'Hands Initiative' all relate to ocean drilling. Problem is that most of them greatly predate the existence of this site, and even predate what Tagruato establishes as a timeline for Bold Futura's existence and projects. Most notably, Hibernia is an oil field and platform owned by major oil companies and has been around since 1991. This would fit in the discontinuous timeline asserted by the Bold Futura site, but of course violates Tagruato's.
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Arkaham
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 		I sent this mail:

Quote:
Greetings

I work as a consultant for a mining project, namely esmeralds, and I'm
interested in seeing what kind of innovations your company could bring
to this field. I know people who's worked with Tagruato in the past,
and they give good references about their affiliated companies.

One thing has me wondering tough... Why is it that Tagruato's site
don't lik to yours?

Jose Maria Sierra


The first thing I've noticed is that there is no autoresponse like on the other site. Another drop to lean the balance in the OOG side.
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CloverfieldClues.com
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Rabbit216 wrote:
as much as i agree with this being OOG, just remember that there were spelling errors on some of the sites that are confirmed IG Very Happy


Where exactly did you see spelling errors on any In-Game site? The only place I have seen something misspelled is on Slusho's "Happy Talk" section, which most people think is fan-submitted.


Arkaham wrote:
Ihe first thing I've noticed is that there is no autoresponse like on the other site. Another drop to lean the balance in the OOG side.


There is no auto-response for emails sent to the Tagruato email address either.

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 		I must say, if it were not for the trace clues (the date 1989, the misspelling, etc, but most importantly, the fact that tagruato doesn't link to it) I would conclude that this were ingame.

It is possible the finest OOG hijack attempt I have ever seen.

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 		wait so this is seriously OOG ?!

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wait so this is seriously OOG ?!


I cannot speak for everyone, but if Tagruato does not link to it, I can only assume that it is OOG.

There are various other smaller giveaways, but this seems to be the most important.

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