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anonymousloli
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 		The ALICE theory
Sooo I've been driving myself crazy and have decided I don't want to use a livejournal anymore (we're being told to centralize), so I'm slowly getting my work over to these forums.

The current standings for ALICE:

Art: Diamonds
Love: Hearts
Info: Clubs
Chaos: Spades
Entertainment: Blah. The jokers, probably.

I recently got an email from 2h that said this:
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i was so excited last night when i heard the ace of
hearts arranged a new meeting between jonah and one of the passengers. we
were all excited, actually... except the two of spades. she was just kind
of... well... confused.


That has me thinking, that maybe chaos doesn't mean they'll spread misinformation or cause chaos with us, but rather are confused and so will accidentally confuse us. They mean no harm by it.

Or maybe I'm thinking of this all wrong...

Art: Diamonds
Love: Hearts
Info: Clubs
Chaos: KORPORATION
Entertainment: Spades

Because she does seem to keep us entertained- or me at least- and the Korp certainly is chaotic.

I don't even know. It's going through my mind a lot. Any thoughts would be a great help.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:33 pm
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JaeDom
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 		Ha! Two of Spades must be chaos though, she does mention it in her voicemail, kinda like "I told you so" sorta tone. Hmm.... Yeah, maybe there is a better definition for the kind of chaos she is.

From Dictionary.com:
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cha·os /ˈkeɪɒs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[key-os] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a state of utter confusion or disorder; a total lack of organization or order.



Seems like 2S to me. She's is kinda crazy too. I like her.

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 		I disagree, Korp and the Jokers seem to be chaos, and chaos by it's very nature wouldn't fit in with the rest so it makes sense that it would not be represented by a suit.

Besides... Who says the nature of each group can't change throughout the journey?

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 		I often wondered if the E was "evil" which would explain the korp. This whole project has that aforementioned (thanks kafkaguy and ludwig) jungian duality vibe to it. So why wouldn't they balance out the good of the ALIC with the bad of the E. Sure, it's only one letter versus four, but man, does that one letter carry a lot of weight.

(/end $.02)


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Freezestate wrote:
I disagree, Korp and the Jokers seem to be chaos, and chaos by it's very nature wouldn't fit in with the rest so it makes sense that it would not be represented by a suit.

Besides... Who says the nature of each group can't change throughout the journey?


I actually assume that it will, since Athena seems to be information and is the QofH.

However, 2C has said that there is chaos within the cards, and not all of it is bad. Sometimes it has meaning, and sometimes it's chaos for chaos' sake. Chaos for chaos' sake seem to be Korporation's motto.

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Wandering Star wrote:
I often wondered if the E was "evil" which would explain the korp. This whole project has that aforementioned (thanks kafkaguy and ludwig) jungian duality vibe to it. So why wouldn't they balance out the good of the ALIC with the bad of the E. Sure, it's only one letter versus four, but man, does that one letter carry a lot of weight.

(/end $.02)


Wandering*



...which spawns another idea for one of you more photoshop-gifted people:

A yin/yang graphic.

Instead of the dot on each side, the white dot in the black is AL
IC (with the AL right over the IC, so it forms a block to take the place of the dot... like a square dot, essentially)


Instead of the black dot on the white side a LARGE "E" which is the equivalent size of the combined ALIC on the other side.

Does this make any sense to anyone? =) Hope.

I may just be rambling.


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Wandering Star wrote:
I often wondered if the E was "evil" which would explain the korp. This whole project has that aforementioned (thanks kafkaguy and ludwig) jungian duality vibe to it. So why wouldn't they balance out the good of the ALIC with the bad of the E. Sure, it's only one letter versus four, but man, does that one letter carry a lot of weight.

(/end $.02)


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One inch of evil spreads out for 12 feet of good.

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anonymousloli wrote:
Wandering Star wrote:
I often wondered if the E was "evil" which would explain the korp. This whole project has that aforementioned (thanks kafkaguy and ludwig) jungian duality vibe to it. So why wouldn't they balance out the good of the ALIC with the bad of the E. Sure, it's only one letter versus four, but man, does that one letter carry a lot of weight.

(/end $.02)


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One inch of evil spreads out for 12 feet of good.



Exactly. It's amazing how much time and effort of good (hours, days, weeks, years) it can take to fix, heal, or undo a few seconds of evil.


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 		Korp might be chaos, but when I think of the Korp, I always think of order. Papers, files, numbers. A system where chaos has become so removed that it causes a corp to become a korp. Chaos seems to me to be essential to caring for other people. Otherwise, they really do just turn into numbers.

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anonymousloli
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onceuponanever wrote:
Korp might be chaos, but when I think of the Korp, I always think of order. Papers, files, numbers. A system where chaos has become so removed that it causes a corp to become a korp. Chaos seems to me to be essential to caring for other people. Otherwise, they really do just turn into numbers.

I've never really thought about it like that. Thank you for the new perspective.

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onceuponanever wrote:
Korp might be chaos, but when I think of the Korp, I always think of order. Papers, files, numbers. A system where chaos has become so removed that it causes a corp to become a korp. Chaos seems to me to be essential to caring for other people. Otherwise, they really do just turn into numbers.

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onceuponanever wrote:
Korp might be chaos, but when I think of the Korp, I always think of order. Papers, files, numbers. A system where chaos has become so removed that it causes a corp to become a korp. Chaos seems to me to be essential to caring for other people. Otherwise, they really do just turn into numbers.


I think you're absolutely right. There's no place for the korp in the ALICE acronym.

I may be way off base, but with the chaos in the deck, and one (perhaps more) of the cards not even in the deck at all... others are going to have to stand in.

So... Let's try this one.

Arts = Diamonds
Love = Hearts
Information = Clubs
Chaos = Spades
Entertainment = Deck (maybe the Jokers... who knows)?

It makes plenty sense to me.
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Sythys wrote:
onceuponanever wrote:
Korp might be chaos, but when I think of the Korp, I always think of order. Papers, files, numbers. A system where chaos has become so removed that it causes a corp to become a korp. Chaos seems to me to be essential to caring for other people. Otherwise, they really do just turn into numbers.


I think you're absolutely right. There's no place for the korp in the ALICE acronym.

I may be way off base, but with the chaos in the deck, and one (perhaps more) of the cards not even in the deck at all... others are going to have to stand in.

So... Let's try this one.

Arts = Diamonds
Love = Hearts
Information = Clubs
Chaos = Spades
Entertainment = Deck (maybe the Jokers... who knows)?

It makes plenty sense to me.


I disagree. I meant for the ALICE theory to be able to help me define the whole game, and therefore everyone and everything fits into it, by my definition. Einstein can often be called chaos, Watch can often be called love.

Of course it was mostly meant for the cards, but the Korp fits here somewhere. I really just want to find out WHERE.

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 		I think it's good to remember that Alice, herself, wasn't Wonderland. Yes, she was IN Wonderland, and those stories were about her, but she didn't define the whole of the environment. She was the "passenger", if you will, so when we descend into the rabbit hole, we're reacting as much as we are interacting.
To be a little more clear; if the Alice "theory" holds true, and I do think it has merit, then these attributes are all necessary for balance, and they're to be generated by US as a whole, not totally reflected from them. At least that's my opinion on calibrating the perspective...Unless the point of the game is reverse and we're Wonderland descending into Alice's world...I call dibs on The Mad Hatter...

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IronJ146 wrote:
...Unless the point of the game is reverse and we're Wonderland descending into Alice's world...I call dibs on The Mad Hatter...


OK!... As long as I can be the cheshire cat!
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