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[The Mirror]

I'm in. Everyone seems to be very nice!
I'm not seeing the cloverfield connection...although DAMN that preview is SO COOL!

[Will 2.0]

Just sit it out and settle in, it gets nice afterwards.

[LeithNoweder]

[SilentbutDeadly]

did anyone get a chance to talk to brody via AIM cause I missed it...ive been for a couple of days...

[Will 2.0]

We did but he's not on often. Join the forums and ask so we can all be caught up.

Will (your group thr3e escort)

[cyng]

I AM DONE

[SilentbutDeadly]

wow when did this take place and where.....

[The Trailmaster]

This will be resolved, but your reaction is yours to choose.

[cyng]

it will be resolved??? really, nice to see swift desicive action---what are you going to do---FORCE group 2 to like us???

you created this guggernaught of a mess--dont throw my reaction back at me--i should have got when "____" (place UF'ers name here) walked away

I am done, done, done

you could have saved it

but instead of doing what ya should have done from the beginning you just tried to save face

[cyng]

the thread is here, i neglected to say:

you can follow the thead, because someone did come to our defence and i think it is important you get to read it before it comes down

http://fortyeight.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=954

[Kaliyuga]

Honestly, I really wouldn't blame Trailmaster - he's trying to handle an explosion in an in-character way. Unfortunately, the way this has been smelling since that IRC chat I popped in on last week, this is not something that being treated IC is going to help. He's kinda stuck.

Here it is: The Bones backscenes team put vids and clues in MULTIPLE zones of a VERY GODDAMN BIG internet. It's there to be stumbled on, and people are guided to it, often based on previous involvement in ARGs. Unfiction isn't the only place to go, but it's a big place, it creates buzz, and it gets involvement. Lots of it, generally.

I've watched the vids, and I've looked at the puzzle pieces, and I read the blog. That's a lot of work in that, and it wasn't done for, I'm sorry, a dozen folks in a hidey hole playing "We're the cool kids!" That's not teamwork, anyway. I'm not going to speak for the people behind the ARG and say that they did it for unfiction either.

Much likelier, they are doing it for larger scale promotion, for getting people involved and interested beyond mere promotion, and for fun. ARGs are not meant to be work, or politics, though like many things, I see it tends to sometimes warp that way. It is not fun for ANYONE when bad scenes like this happen. It's not mature, it's not helpful, it deters interest, and it frustrates your puppetmasters.

You want this to work? Don't pout in a corner because you don't want to make more badges for your Scooby gang. Pull together into real teamwork, and shove your ego back where it belongs. It. Is. A. Game.

-I am no PM, nor a frequent ARGer, but I did dev/events/liaison work for a major commercial text-MUD, so speaking from experience, I'll buy a can of pig snouts if there isn't a PM banging his head on the table listening to this king of the hill shit.

Edit: I should make it clear that I notice one primary shitstirrer there and I am not trying to insult anyone that's been involved prior to the forums being opened to others. I can understand the concerns of anyone who thinks their contributions might get buried under a major onslaught of newcomers - that's sane and normal, and I hope it doesn't happen. The other team did jump this first, and a lot of them did a lot a work, and I'd like to see them recognized as the real trailblazers.

[cyng]

no i do blame the pm

he/she created the problem by the WAY he/she put the two groups together which was bound to create resentment on team ones part--and for several other aggravating scenarious that he/she created which for me SUCKED the life out of the game

yes, it is a game

which i have stuck with when several times my gut said to drop it as the play was being micromanaged, boundaries were crossed, the tone was turning ugly....all i am saying is...i stuck it out AND regret it


im not pouting

im moving on

[Kaliyuga]

Fair enough, and I don't blame you and I won't wheedle at you - I understand very well. Dunno how much I'll get involved m'self, not that I am a major resource loss.

[LeithNoweder]

The few who have spoken against you do not represent the majority of the group.

The issue has been resolved. Icarus has removed himself.

I and the majority of the group welcome all who are willing to stand with us and move ahead together, united.

I apologize to anyone who was offended. The actions of a few can be destructive to the group as whole. But issues can be resolved. The only people who are not welcome in the group are those who cannot work together as a team. We stand together or fall apart. The choice is yours. Anyone willing can still be apart of the team. And we will try to make sure nothing like this happens again. I fight for the group. Not individual egos.

[Kaliyuga]

Appreciate your reply on that. Like I said, I really do understand the concerns of everyone that was in the forum beforehand asides Icarus. It can be really frustrating when you're worried your voice is going to get drowned out.

Right now a lot of people are learning about ARGs from watching the Cloverfield mess, and that is so the wrong lessonplan. I've watched a couple of other big, organized ARGs, and while those can also be really big and daunting to follow, there's enough teamwork groups that people can feel they can contribute and not get lost.

Not that dramas aren't always possible, but, well.