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[brettoniasam]

[buildingblock]

[Lasher]

ockham's razor

[Shutaro]

[HerOdyssey]

[Euchre]

We still don't even precisely know what caused the explosion, or what the flaming projectiles are that come from that explosion. We don't know what exactly was blown up.
That being the case, there's not much of any way to compare a context for the sequence of events as we see them. I still think the creature carrying the SoL head as it rampages is interesting, especially if it's got more than 2 grasping appendages.

[omnis.vanitas]

I don't think the timeline has anything to do with it -- it's all frakked up in the trailer anyhow. For example, "This is going to be the best night ever" is at the end. Also, you hear that low groan, which I took to be movement, not a roar.

[Euchre]

Considering the "best night ever" comment came after the credits, I think they knew people would understand that that did not come within that timeframe. The rest of the trailer though follows a fairly logical timeline.

[brettoniasam]

[Bacon Army]

Newbie here, so be kind.

I've been watching over the trailer (I downloaded it - YAY MOZILLA - then again, the rest of you probably have also) after reading this thread, and I have a few thoughts of my own.

1) The monster is not offshore. I gather this by the position of el massive explosione. If you look closely, the explosion engulfs several skyscrapers. Now, either our big monster friend found a convenient oil-tanker-ship in the NY Harbour to throw at Upper Manhattan (I gather, because I read somewhere Rob's located in Lower Manhattan), or he's on land, destroying shit, and he's pissed. A fireball of THAT magnitude also does not suggest farking big oil tanker - rather, something more...infernal. There's no doubt Biggie is in the water at some point, but not at this point.

2) The monster definitely moves after that first groan. Listen to that explosion - I'm pretty sure explosions don't make groaning noises like doors creaking. It sounds awfully like Biggie (that's what I'm calling the monster now).

3) The explosion isn't caused by Biggie. The action of that explosion suggests warhead, man-made explosive - not Biggie letting rip on the city. Maybe the US Army just dropped a big-ass bomb on Upper Manhattan, hoping to destroy Biggie?

4) Something's up with Rob. Completely unrelated, but - who the hell gets home at midnight, when all their friends are nowhere to be seen (except at his home, which he is unaware of), when they're leaving for Japan the following day? Boy knows summat we don't.

5) The projectiles have a life of their own, or are, perhaps, weapons. This I came to the conclusion of watching one particular projectile. It comes up - straight vertically up - after the rest, is moving at a different speed to the rest, and doesn't arch on a traditional parabola like projectiles would (though maybe I didn't notice the parabola) UNTIL it seems to let off something - like flaps on a spaceship. Also, the angle at which some of them hit the ground - in particular, the ground near and on Rob's apartment - is not at the same angle, and not from the same direction, as they were fired off - suggesting intelligent targeting (maybe they're out to get Rob?). It's not debris, that I'm almost positively sure of.

6.The monster isn't as big, or as identifiable, as we think it is. Now, we know there are time discrepancies in the trailer. However, it seriously can't take that long to get from Rob's (from the looks of it) penthouse apartment to the roof (which should be directly above, if you figure in basic architectural rules), and the New York News station has no, I repeat, no live footage of anything suggesting anything over than an 'earthquake'. This means one of two things - the monster is in the water (which I doubt, due to the explosion minutes later), or the monster is smaller and quicker than we suspect - not some lumbering, big-ass Cthulhu-lite.

7. The guy with the Slusho shirt looks a little bit like Eric Bana.

8. Sorry to argue against your claim, britonniasam, but the street outside is reacting as you would expect a group of people who are being attacked by an enemy they know is on their island, but cannot see. They're running away from the general direction of the explosion, for one. Also, the (largely unconvincing) extras are (having a hard time) looking scared, and so they should, with Biggie roaming the streets.

9. The explosion is not the Statue of Liberty, but it's not a long shot to say the monster was carrying the head of Liberty. We can deduce that, this being an Abrams film and all, Biggie's not going to be a dumb piece of crap. Therefore, why so quick to debunk the theory that Biggie is intelligent enough to wield the pointy, spiky, heavy, large head of Liberty as a weapon? The head of Liberty also comes from the same direction as the explosion - therefore, Biggie's in the vicinity of the explosion when it happens (as explained in point 1). Therefore, it could be good to conclude Biggie's wielding lady Liberty's decapitated head as a defensive measure.

That is all. Trout (or flame) at will.

EDIT: It's quarter-to-ten at night in New Zealand, so I'm still pretty lucid.

[TBILL]

For what its worth I think a lot of these questions will never be answered. I think JJ is going with the Less is More theory with this movie. I don't know that we will ever know what causes the explosion or even a lot about the monster itself. I think he is going for a 9/11/What's happpening type feel where it's scary and no one really knows WHAT is happening except its huge and attacking us and our heroes are just trying to survive.

EDIT: I think the point of this ARG(?) maybe to fill in some of those answers though