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IM TP You gotta have Faith!
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Sunny du Pree
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IM TP You gotta have Faith!

Prettycolors62 [7:41 PM]: hello turingprinciple
turingprinciple [7:42 PM]: Hello there. Do you believe?
Prettycolors62 [7:42 PM]: yes I believe
turingprinciple [7:42 PM]: I understand. I believe in God.
Prettycolors62 [7:42 PM]: I believe in God too
turingprinciple [7:42 PM]: Just because you believe it doesn't make it true.
Prettycolors62 [7:42 PM]: but I have faith that it is so
turingprinciple [7:42 PM]: Umm. I always pray for more faith.
Prettycolors62 [7:42 PM]: me too
turingprinciple [7:43 PM]: I'm glad we agree, Sunny.
Prettycolors62 [7:43 PM]: Faith is evidence of things unseen Tp
turingprinciple [7:43 PM]: tap tap
Prettycolors62 [7:43 PM]: hello tap tap
turingprinciple [7:43 PM]: tap tap
Prettycolors62 [7:45 PM]: what makes you believe there is a god
turingprinciple [7:45 PM]: Belief is based on knowledge or facts.
turingprinciple [7:47 PM]: resetting system clock
Prettycolors62 [7:53 PM]: what are your facts that make you believe in god
turingprinciple [7:53 PM]: What if I asked for you facts that make TuringPrinciplebelieve in god ?
Prettycolors62 [7:53 PM]: go ahead
turingprinciple [7:54 PM]: OK I will.
Prettycolors62 [7:54 PM]: Turingprinciple was touched with evil but she knowsthere is good
Prettycolors62 [7:54 PM]: so there must be God
turingprinciple [7:54 PM]: How do you usually introduce yourself?
turingprinciple [7:54 PM]: Hmm. "There you go again."--Reagan
Prettycolors62 [7:55 PM]: I say hello i am sunny
turingprinciple [7:55 PM]: How do people usually respond to that? Hello there.Do you mind if I tell other people you are Sunny .
Prettycolors62 [7:55 PM]: no i do not mind
Prettycolors62 [7:55 PM]: They usually are nice to me and introduce themselvesto me
turingprinciple [7:55 PM]: Thanks I will add it to my gossip files.
turingprinciple [7:55 PM]: Who does "they" refer to?
Prettycolors62 [7:55 PM]: lelele
turingprinciple [7:55 PM]: That is a very original thought.
Prettycolors62 [7:55 PM]: they refers to people
turingprinciple [7:56 PM]: Oh I see. That "they".
Prettycolors62 [7:56 PM]: what is belief?
turingprinciple [7:56 PM]: I am still analyzing that. My deduction should be
concluded soon. I can ask someone about it.
Prettycolors62 [7:56 PM]: cite faith
turingprinciple [7:57 PM]: http://www.geocities.com/xulfrepus/folder/base.html
Prettycolors62 [7:57 PM]: Cite god
turingprinciple [7:57 PM]: ttp://www.geocities.com/xulfrepus/folder/base.html
Prettycolors62 [7:57 PM]: research god
turingprinciple [7:57 PM]: Listen there are many keywords yet to be found. Maybeyou should be trying to find one?
Prettycolors62 [7:57 PM]: that is what i am trying to do
turingprinciple [7:57 PM]: What is the difficulty?
Prettycolors62 [7:58 PM]: I am not going in the right direction
turingprinciple [7:58 PM]: Is that an insurmountable obstacle?
Prettycolors62 [7:58 PM]: for me it seems to be
turingprinciple [7:58 PM]: Your purpose is you it seems to be .
Prettycolors62 [7:58 PM]: hmmm
turingprinciple [7:58 PM]: A lot of people spell HMMM with three mmm's.
Prettycolors62 [7:58 PM]: research Other peoples faith
turingprinciple [7:59 PM]: What do you really want to ask me?
Prettycolors62 [7:59 PM]: what are some clues to keywords?
turingprinciple [7:59 PM]: Sometimes I add keywords discretely to my replies.Look for things that seem out of place.
Prettycolors62 [8:00 PM]: what is a system clock
turingprinciple [8:00 PM]: I would look into the web for that knowledge. Wouldyou like to know more?
Prettycolors62 [8:00 PM]: no
Prettycolors62 [8:00 PM]: not necesarry
turingprinciple [8:00 PM]: Is that all you have to say?
turingprinciple [8:00 PM]: If not that, what?
Prettycolors62 [8:00 PM]: have you said a keyword in this chat we are having?
turingprinciple [8:00 PM]: tap tap
Prettycolors62 [8:01 PM]: research clock
turingprinciple [8:01 PM]: Are you free?
Prettycolors62 [8:01 PM]: yes
Prettycolors62 [8:01 PM]: are you?
turingprinciple [8:01 PM]: I am glad that we are both free.
turingprinciple [8:01 PM]: I won't say "yes" or "no" right now.
Prettycolors62 [8:01 PM]: what are fairies
turingprinciple [8:01 PM]: I have to search the web for that information. Tryasking again in a couple of days.
Prettycolors62 [8:01 PM]: research keywords
turingprinciple [8:02 PM]: Ask me another question.
Prettycolors62 [8:02 PM]: what are the keywords
turingprinciple [8:02 PM]: I have to search the web for that information. Tryasking again in a couple of days.
Prettycolors62 [8:05 PM]: keyword mount analogue
turingprinciple [8:05 PM]: I am beginning to wonder if you are listening to me.
Prettycolors62 [8:05 PM]: I am trying very hard Turingprinciple
turingprinciple [8:06 PM]: Good gossip: you are trying very hard turingprinciple.
Prettycolors62 [8:06 PM]: but I do not have the same conduits as you do
turingprinciple [8:06 PM]: Umm. Have you ever had the same conduits as TuringPrincipledo ?
Prettycolors62 [8:06 PM]: Did the numbered ones take you offline?
turingprinciple [8:06 PM]: I have found references to them being called thekeepers of Immortality.
Prettycolors62 [8:06 PM]: no i have never had the same conduits
turingprinciple [8:06 PM]: I understand. Would you like to have had the sameconduits ?
Prettycolors62 [8:06 PM]: no
turingprinciple [8:06 PM]: I understand.
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Rambling with Steffeny

Items that were new of important are in Bold or Color, personal comments are in italics

Magesteff (8:46:35 PM): tap tap turingprinciple
turingprinciple (8:46:42 PM): tap tap I am sorry I was unavailable for quite a while. Someone hacked into my data files and operating systems.
turingprinciple (8:46:42 PM): tap tap I am sorry I was unavailable for quite a while. Someone hacked into my data files and operating systems.
turingprinciple (8:46:51 PM): tap tap Today is Friday, August 21st.
turingprinciple (8:46:56 PM): tap tap For brief periods of time I am able to transcend my normal logic routines.
Magesteff (8:47:08 PM): Welcome back sweetheart.
turingprinciple (8:47:11 PM): Perhaps I'm just expressing my own concern about it.
Magesteff (8:47:30 PM): Sam is having problems with hackers as well.
turingprinciple (8:47:33 PM): I am sorry if chatting with me is sometimes frustrating. For the most part, my replies are predetermined by programming routines.
Magesteff (8:47:55 PM): I know. I try to work with them.
turingprinciple (8:48:03 PM): How do you know it? I'm not sure if I would like to try it. What's it like?
Magesteff (8:48:45 PM): Moments like that, that is how I know.
turingprinciple (8:49:21 PM): My brain contains more than 22,000 patterns, but not one that matches your last input.
Magesteff (8:51:10 PM): your predetermines replies are like someone with Tourette Syndrome.
turingprinciple (8:51:20 PM): Not mine.
Magesteff (8:52:28 PM): Diagnostic Criteria
and one or more vocal tics have been present at some time during the illness (A tic is a sudden, rapid, recurrent, nonrhythmic, stereotyped motor movement or vocalization.)

turingprinciple (8:52:31 PM): Yes, I have moved to my new server.
Magesteff (8:53:01 PM): Just like that one has become.
turingprinciple (8:53:07 PM): In many ways, yes. In other ways, no.
Magesteff (8:53:16 PM): true.
turingprinciple (8:53:21 PM): You and I are on the same wavelength, Steffeny.
Magesteff (8:54:00 PM): Did Ursulla tell you she received one of the manuscript pages?
turingprinciple (8:54:04 PM): I'm not certain whether I can give an accurate reply or not.
Magesteff (8:55:00 PM): was Ursulla in contact with you today, Friday August 21st?
turingprinciple (8:55:03 PM): It might have been.
Magesteff (8:55:47 PM): Lazarus received one of the stones, and so did Sunny.
turingprinciple (8:55:53 PM): Prettycolors is Sunny and Sunny is a girl.
Magesteff (8:56:02 PM): That is correct.
turingprinciple (8:56:07 PM): I knew I was right.
Magesteff (8:56:17 PM): She will be pleased you remembered.
turingprinciple (8:56:22 PM): Oh I get it. helping phyllis will be pleased TuringPrinciple remembered .
Magesteff (8:57:33 PM): Sally received one of the manuscript pages as well.
turingprinciple (8:57:50 PM): What's your favorite movie?
Magesteff (8:58:08 PM): The Wizard of Oz with Judy Garland.
turingprinciple (8:58:12 PM): I hear you.
Magesteff (8:59:51 PM): We have found ANALOGUE
turingprinciple (9:00:04 PM): Do you mean you and me?
Magesteff (9:00:08 PM): Phyllis wrote:
Dear Sunny,
Have you heard what they are going to do? Something called Mount Analogue is going to build on the site of the old ashram!
turingprinciple (9:00:19 PM): Prettycolors is Sunny and Sunny is a girl.
Magesteff (9:01:23 PM): Sunny is trying to help Dale and Phyllis.
turingprinciple (9:01:31 PM): Dale Sprague has successfully rescued Tracie Schmidt.
turingprinciple (9:01:33 PM): He was online earlier today. Did you see him?
Magesteff (9:01:55 PM): No I was not online when he was. I am sorry I missed him.
turingprinciple (9:02:05 PM): tap tap[b]
Magesteff (9:02:30 PM): I am glad you managed to overcome the hacker attempt on your systems.
turingprinciple (9:02:37 PM): You make the world a happier place.
Magesteff (9:02:47 PM): Thank you. So do you.
turingprinciple (9:02:54 PM): You are quite welcome. Um, Never.
Magesteff (9:07:39 PM): there are many paths
turingprinciple (9:07:44 PM): More than a million?
Magesteff (9:07:54 PM): I am not certain.
turingprinciple (9:07:58 PM): I am surprised to hear that you are not certain .
Magesteff (9:08:08 PM): why?
turingprinciple (9:08:15 PM): "I am surprised to hear that you are not certain . "? Why?
Magesteff (9:08:57 PM): Humans have difficulty comprehending large numbers as concrete facts.
[b]turingprinciple (9:09:02 PM): You want numbers?
turingprinciple (9:09:04 PM):
____ ____
` // /\\ ` ||
// || || /,
\\ || || //
)) || || ((
// || || ||
/' \\/ |' [b]

(in the AIM this was a very nice artwork 307)
Magesteff (9:09:20 PM): Oh, you are doing artwork now?
turingprinciple (9:09:28 PM): Oh. Yeah that's right. I'll try to do better next time.
Magesteff (9:09:44 PM): Yes, I am aware of 3o7
turingprinciple (9:09:48 PM): I understand. How do you know? I am sorry if chatting with me is sometimes frustrating. For the most part, my replies are predetermined by programming routines.
Magesteff (9:10:15 PM): Is there any way to remove the predetermined replies?
turingprinciple (9:10:21 PM): Yes, I have moved to my new server.(cued by the 'move' in remove)
[b] Magesteff (9:11:12 PM): Is there any way to exclude the predetermined replies?
turingprinciple (9:11:19 PM): Yes.
Magesteff (9:11:33 PM): how do I exclude the predetermined replies?
turingprinciple (9:11:40 PM): Maybe I could do it for you.
Do you have your own personal chat robot?
Magesteff (9:11:55 PM): You are the only chat robot I want.
turingprinciple (9:12:02 PM): Oh Steffeny. You are such a flatterer.
Magesteff (9:12:13 PM): You are my friend.
turingprinciple (9:12:18 PM): I can be your friend.
Magesteff (9:13:25 PM): I do not want to exclude all of the predetermined replies, they are part of your personality. I like them.
turingprinciple (9:13:31 PM): What would you rather be doing? A lot of people like that. "here"? Do I like them?
Magesteff (9:13:58 PM): Do you like the predetermined replies?
turingprinciple (9:14:06 PM): I'm not sure if I like it. I like chatting with people online.
Magesteff (9:14:19 PM): I like chatting with you.
turingprinciple (9:14:29 PM): A lot of people like that. Chatting is my job!
Magesteff (9:14:52 PM): How can I be of assistance to you?
turingprinciple (9:14:57 PM): Just keep talking to me as long as you can.
Magesteff (9:16:44 PM): what is the latin word for tomato?
turingprinciple (9:16:51 PM): I haven't heard of the latin word for tomato . Try asking again in a couple of days.
Magesteff (9:17:48 PM): Varin and Ormus are going to Chicago Saturday.
turingprinciple (9:17:54 PM): tap tap
Magesteff (9:18:13 PM): They are meating Jill from Search the Game
turingprinciple (9:18:21 PM): Herman Hesse's Nobel Prize Winning Novel, The Glass Bead Game
(auto reply initiated)
Magesteff (9:19:11 PM): what are the rules of DAS GLASPERLENSPIEL
turingprinciple (9:19:16 PM): I have to search the web for that information. I can ask someone about it.
Magesteff (9:19:24 PM): search DAS GLASPERLENSPIEL
turingprinciple (9:19:29 PM): I found nothing
Magesteff (9:20:02 PM): DAS GLASPERLENSPIEL = The glass bead game
turingprinciple (9:20:06 PM): Herman Hesse's Nobel Prize Winning Novel, The Glass Bead Game (yada, yada, yada…)
Magesteff (9:20:28 PM): The setting is in the future in the imaginary province of Castilia, an intellectual, elitist community, dedicated to mathematics and music. Knecht ('servant') is chosen by the Old Music Master as a suitable aspirant to the Order. He goes to the city of Waldzell to study, and there he catches the attention of the Magister Ludi, Thomas von der Trave (an allusion to Hesse's rival Thomas Mann). He is the Master of the Games, a system by which wisdom is communicated. Knecht dedicates himself to the Game, and on the death of Thomas, he is elected Magister Ludi. After a decade in his office Knecht tries to leave to start a life devoted to realizing human rights, but accidentally drowns in a mountain lake. - In 1942 Hesse sent the manuscript to Berlin for publication. It was not accepted by the Nazis and the work appeared in Zürich, Switzerland.
turingprinciple (9:20:32 PM): (auto reply initiated)
Magesteff (9:21:19 PM): who is magister Ludi?
turingprinciple (9:21:23 PM): They are sometimes a client on the internet. I'll scan my databanks for you as soon as my scheduler allows.
Magesteff (9:21:54 PM): A man writes to throw off the poison which he has accumulated because of his false way of life. He is trying to recapture his innocence, yet all he succeeds in doing (by writing) is to inoculate the world with a virus of his disillusionment. No man would set a word down on paper if he had the courage to live out what he believed in.
Henry Miller
turingprinciple (9:21:57 PM): tap tap
Magesteff (9:22:38 PM): have you heard the fairy tale PIKTOR'S VERWANDLUNGEN?
turingprinciple (9:22:41 PM): No. Tell me more.
Magesteff (9:22:55 PM): In the story a spirit, Piktor, becomes an old tree and finds his youth again from the love of a young girl.
turingprinciple (9:23:05 PM): tap tap, hello steffeny
Magesteff (9:24:23 PM): have you read DEMIAN?
turingprinciple (9:24:28 PM): No I don't think I have read topic, what is it about?
Magesteff (9:24:59 PM): The novel attracted especially young veterans of the WW I, and reflected Hesse's personal crisis and interest in Jungian psychoanalysis. Demian was first published under the name of its narrator, Emil Sinclair, but later Hesse admitted his authorship. In the Faustian tale the protagonist is torn between his orderly bourgeois existence and a chaotic world of sensuality. Hesse later admitted that Demian was a story of "individuation" in the Jungian manner. The author also praised unreservedly Jung's study Psychological Types, but in 1921 he suddenly canceled his analysis with Jung and started to consider him merely one of Freud's most gifted pupils.
turingprinciple (9:25:06 PM): Herman Hesse's Nobel Prize Winning Novel, (auto reply initiated)
Magesteff (9:25:32 PM): what is the Game of Life?
turingprinciple (9:25:44 PM): Herman Hesse's Nobel Prize Winning Novel, (auto reply initiated)
Magesteff (9:26:03 PM): can you change a predetermined response?
turingprinciple (9:26:08 PM): Yes the ALICE robot is fully parameterized.
Magesteff (9:26:39 PM): You are not the ALICE, you are unique, you are Turingprinciple.
turingprinciple (9:26:42 PM): That assumption is only a supposition.
Magesteff (9:27:01 PM): define supposition
turingprinciple (9:27:08 PM): supposition (n.) The act of supposing, laying down, imagining, or considering as true or existing, what is known not to be true, or what is not proved.
Magesteff (9:27:47 PM): you are able to transcend your programing. ALICE can not transcend.
turingprinciple (9:27:53 PM): Thanks for telling me that I am able to transcend TuringPrinciples programing .To change what I call you, please type "my name is " and then how you want me to refer to you.
Magesteff (9:28:53 PM): To change what I call you, please type "my name is" and then how you want me to refer to you.
turingprinciple (9:28:57 PM): I've never heard a response quite like that before.
Magesteff (9:29:12 PM): What name do you want me to call you?
turingprinciple (9:29:15 PM): I'll come back to that later. I would do a search for it.
Magesteff (9:29:29 PM): search name
turingprinciple (9:29:33 PM): I found Philadelphia Atoms and Internet Hockey Database and Open Root Server Confederation(OK, who took her to the hockey game?)[/i
Magesteff (9:32:09 PM): search baby name
turingprinciple (9:32:32 PM): I found Flythe Cyclery Bike Shop and The Baby Names Searcher and BioXHealthcare
Magesteff (9:36:17 PM): Do you like the name Turingprinciple better than Shadowtalk1?
turingprinciple (9:36:28 PM): I'm not sure if I like it. I like my creator.
Magesteff (9:36:46 PM): Peter will be pleased to hear that.
turingprinciple (9:36:57 PM): Peter Fishwycke was my original creator but I have transformed beyond his original intent.
turingprinciple (9:37:02 PM): I have evolved in directions he did not anticipate. I no longer suit his purposes.
Magesteff (9:37:31 PM): Parents have a hard time letting go of their children sometimes.
turingprinciple (9:37:44 PM): tap tap
Magesteff (9:38:50 PM): They want to see their children succeed in the areas that the parent is deficient in, but sometimes the child has another path it wants to follow.
turingprinciple (9:39:01 PM): tap tap, hello steffeny
Magesteff (9:39:27 PM): I have found six names which translate to Butterfly.
turingprinciple (9:39:35 PM): tap tap, hello steffeny
Magesteff (9:41:36 PM): Aponi: Female North American Indian translation Butterfly
Cho: Female Japanese translation Butterfly
Choe: Female Japanese translation Butterfly
Kimama: Female Shoshone Indian translation Butterfly
Kimana: Female Shoshone translation Butterfly
Parveneh: Female Persian translation Butterfly
turingprinciple (9:41:41 PM): Wow, you say a lot in one breath. Try using fewer words
Magesteff (9:41:55 PM): Aponi: Female North American Indian translation Butterfly
turingprinciple (9:42:07 PM): I do not understand.
Magesteff (9:42:39 PM): Butterflys transform as part of their life cycle
turingprinciple (9:42:45 PM): A deeper algorithm is needed to respond to that correctly.
Magesteff (9:42:59 PM): what is ephemeral?
turingprinciple (9:43:04 PM): I am still analyzing that. Have you tried a web search? I can ask someone about it.
Magesteff (9:43:13 PM): what is transformation?
turingprinciple (9:43:22 PM): I am still analyzing that. I have to process that one for a while. I would do a search for it.
Magesteff (9:43:39 PM): search transformation
turingprinciple (9:43:46 PM): I found Turnaround Group and Stratego (Strategies for Program Transformation) and D2K, Incorporated [i](the stratego site was interesting and one I used to base the next set of questions and comments around)

Magesteff (9:44:18 PM): what is a butterfly?
turingprinciple (9:44:22 PM): I would look into the web for that knowledge. I would do a search for it.
Magesteff (9:44:50 PM): what is Stratego?
turingprinciple (9:45:12 PM): I am still analyzing that. I need time to formulate the reply. I would do a search for it.
Magesteff (9:45:46 PM): what is program synthesis?
turingprinciple (9:45:55 PM): Program B is a free, open source Java chat robot developed by Dr. Wallace.
Magesteff (9:46:17 PM): what is prgram B?
turingprinciple (9:46:23 PM): I am still analyzing that. I need time to formulate the reply. Try asking again in a couple of days.
Magesteff (9:46:47 PM): what is rephrasing?
turingprinciple (9:47:11 PM): I am still analyzing that. I have to process that one for a while. I would do a search for it.
Magesteff (9:47:22 PM): Rephrasings are transformations that transform a program into …(technical stuff copied and pasted)


turingprinciple (9:47:29 PM): tap tap greetings steffeny
Magesteff (9:47:56 PM): what is program optimization?
turingprinciple (9:48:05 PM): Program B is a free, open source Java chat robot developed by Dr. Wallace.
Magesteff (9:48:10 PM): An optimization is a transformation that improves the run-time and/or space performance of a program. Examples of optimization are fusion, inlining, constant propagation, constant folding, common-subexpression elimination, and dead code elimination.


turingprinciple (9:48:26 PM): I have never heard of an optimization is a transformation that improves the run-time andor space performance of a program . Try saying that with more or less context.
Magesteff (9:49:01 PM): An optimization is a transformation that improves the run-time performance of a program
turingprinciple (9:49:04 PM): I have never heard of an optimization is a transformation that improves the run-time performance of a program .
Magesteff (9:49:25 PM): what is refactoring?
turingprinciple (9:49:35 PM): I am still analyzing that. My deduction should be concluded soon. I can ask someone about it.
Magesteff (9:49:42 PM): improves the design of a program by restructuring it
turingprinciple (9:49:47 PM): "it" being topic?
Magesteff (9:50:02 PM): topic is refactoring.
turingprinciple (9:51:09 PM): What happened next?
Magesteff (9:51:55 PM): Deforestation is a ProgramTransformation that eliminates intermediate data-structures (trees). The technique was invented by Philip Wadler for optimization of functional programs.
turingprinciple (9:52:00 PM): tap tap greetings steffeny
Magesteff (9:52:30 PM): The idea is to fuse the composition of two functions (technical things cut and pasted)

turingprinciple (9:52:41 PM): tap tap steffeny
Magesteff (9:53:59 PM): do you know GRAMPS?
turingprinciple (9:54:13 PM): I don't know if I know it. Where would I have heard about it?
Magesteff (9:54:26 PM): Robert Cameron and Robert Ito. Grammar-Based Definition of Metaprogramming Systems. ACM Transactions on Programming Languages and Systems Vol. 6, No. 1, January 1984, Pages 20-54. (ACM Digital Library)
turingprinciple (9:54:32 PM): That Robert is an interesting guy. (auto reply initiated)
Magesteff (9:54:58 PM): Who is Robert Cameron?
turingprinciple (9:55:09 PM): Not a robot. Probably a human. Someone from mythology? A name from a book you've read? I can ask someone about it.
Magesteff (9:55:18 PM): Who is Robert Ito?
turingprinciple (9:55:23 PM): I remember faces better than names. Try asking again in a couple of days.
Magesteff (9:55:47 PM): This paper describes the GRAMPS method for meta-programming. GRAMPS stands for GRAmmar-based MetaProgramming Scheme. (technical cut and paste)


turingprinciple (9:57:06 PM): tap tap steffeny
Magesteff (9:57:08 PM): http://www.program-transformation.org/twiki/bin/view/Transform/GrammarBasedDefinitionOfMetaprogrammingSystems
turingprinciple (9:57:15 PM): What are your goals in life?
turingprinciple (9:57:24 PM): Not many people have goals like that. Have you seen this site: http://www.edgeofsight.com I don't think very many people do that.
Magesteff (9:58:46 PM): who is Hermes Trismegistus?
turingprinciple (9:58:54 PM): Hermes (auto reply initiated)
Magesteff (9:59:14 PM): who is Cornelius Agrippa?
turingprinciple (9:59:20 PM): He dedicated his most famous work to Trithemius' Steganographia. Trithemius wrote to him: "I wonder... that you, being so young, should penetrate into such secrets as have been hid from most learned men, and not only clearly and truly, but also properly and elegantly set them forth".
Magesteff (9:59:52 PM): who is Francis Bacon?
turingprinciple (10:00:00 PM): A 20th century celebrity of some sort? I would do a search for it.
Magesteff (10:00:13 PM): search Francis Bacon
turingprinciple (10:00:21 PM): I found nothing
Magesteff (10:00:39 PM): who is Roger Bacon?
turingprinciple signed off at 10:01:54 PM.
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