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[META][INFO] New Trailer Viewed Early!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Euchre wrote:
It's great to see all the angles people are taking with this.
I think jojo made an interesting point a way back when it was mentioned about people we've not had named being on screen in a speaking part.
Some of you may remember a discussion about extras and being paid more and being SAG, or being offered it if they do speak (Taft-Hartleyed). Again, this is a ~$30 million project? How many talking people can they really afford?

I know not everyone will take the time, but follow some of the links Evil posted about Devin, and do a little Googling for yourself. I didn't post the link from G4's site, but Devin decries JJ's likely ineptitude at reviving the Star Trek franchise, basically saying all of his big name works like Alias and Lost are just crap. You'll quickly get the idea that this guy is a trash-talker and 'fecal agitator', and possibly a prankster. The story where he mentions that JJ is going to 'throw us a bone' basically says we who are interested and following this project are suckers - and wouldn't this 'spoiler report' of the trailer just be a grand prank on us then?

I find it interesting that people are using this to question the likelyhood of the trailer being before Beowulf. I think he probably said that because it's plausible as being true, and could prove true. That, I suspect, is the one thing he may actually know for sure.

I agree that the description is a total contrast from the style of the teaser trailer. I expect this to be a new iteration of the teaser's style, with largely or entirely new content. I get that as with many of the projects JJ has done, he's trying to be unconventional and innovative with this project. I do expect a bit more concrete information as you'd expect from a full trailer, but presented in the more unique style that JJ gave us in the teaser.


Agreed

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Re: The Monster..

Patiently waiting... wrote:
By the way, where are the other movie posters?? Wasnt there going to be 3??


There are four actually. They all have the Statue of Liberty and different titles: MONSTROUS, TERRIFYING, FURIOUS, and one with no title.

You can see all four here: http://cloverfieldclues.blogspot.com/2007/07/cloverfield-posters-series-of-four.html

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Someone, a couple of pages back, mentioned they'd like to have the battery life of (presumably) Hud's camcorder, which got me to thinking - I'd actually almost expect this movie, if it's done totally with a camcorder, to be almost like the stuff with Andy (the gun store owner) during the end credits of the "Dawn of the Dead" remake. For those who haven't seen it, it's basically a series of short clips that detail various points throughout the timeline of the film. If you think about it, that'd be ideal for this film, as they could go for nearly the entire duration of the movie without showing the monster, thereby cutting back on the CGI budget of the film. Of course, this would also force for a greater investment in character development, in theory causing the audience to become better connected with the characters and giving their eventual deaths a greater weight. This particular technique runs on a fine line, however, because you could either end up with one of Romero's "Dead" movies (a movie about zombies with amazing characters and social commentary) or Shyamalan's "Signs" (a movie about faith thinly disguised as an alien invasion movie). And while I'm one of the few people who actually enjoyed "Signs" (and "The Village", for that matter) for what it actually was, if JJ wants to give us our own Godzilla, he's going to need to stay on the Romero side of the line.

Edit: I actually have preferred "Monstrous" for the title of this film ever since I found out about it. That's just me, though.

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^ Thanks for the info. I kind of figured that was it. Lame.

I dont get the part about the shadow of the woman getting killed by one of the little monsters, or wait maybe 2. He could see the shadow of her but not the monster?? Arms, legs, shape possibly?? Size compared to the woman?? How was he killing her?? With his mouth, tearing her apart with claws, tail?? He could make out the woman though?? I dont believe this dude.

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Euchre wrote:
I know not everyone will take the time, but follow some of the links Evil posted about Devin, and do a little Googling for yourself. I didn't post the link from G4's site, but Devin decries JJ's likely ineptitude at reviving the Star Trek franchise, basically saying all of his big name works like Alias and Lost are just crap. You'll quickly get the idea that this guy is a trash-talker and 'fecal agitator', and possibly a prankster. The story where he mentions that JJ is going to 'throw us a bone' basically says we who are interested and following this project are suckers - and wouldn't this 'spoiler report' of the trailer just be a grand prank on us then?


I went back and read the linked articles from Devin and yeah, he's pretty harsh on anything Cloverfield (I didn't read the G4 or Trek stuff, but I'll take your word for it). He certainly seems to have contempt for the folks following this ARG (or whatever it is) and for JJ Abrams/Bad Robot.

It's also interesting to note in his article describing the trailer he plays it straight. He doesn't interject his personal opinion on the trailer, unlike past blogs on 1-18-08 where he seems to go out of his way to point out his distaste for the Abrams/Cloverfield machine. You could almost say he doesn't want to tip his hand.

Oh, and its only a prank if you admit to it ahead of time...if he waits until after the trailer and he is dead wrong, he can't go back and say, "oh, I meant it as a joke all along"...see my baseball analogy a few posts back.

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Actually, to clarify, wasn't there some news about filming a flashback for the next trailer at Coney Island? Had that been addressed already? Searching didn't turn up the particular thread and post I was looking for, but I'd think that if they did film a flashback scene, it couldn't be in a handycam-filmed movie. Thus, it'd have to be in any new trailer that crops up. Was the whole Coney Island thing for real, and actually for 1-18-08? Cuz if it was, then its absence from this trailer is pretty suspicious.

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detranova wrote:
Actually, to clarify, wasn't there some news about filming a flashback for the next trailer at Coney Island? Had that been addressed already? Searching didn't turn up the particular thread and post I was looking for, but I'd think that if they did film a flashback scene, it couldn't be in a handycam-filmed movie. Thus, it'd have to be in any new trailer that crops up. Was the whole Coney Island thing for real, and actually for 1-18-08? Cuz if it was, then its absence from this trailer is pretty suspicious.


Its around on various sites...it was reported way back in July. Here is one link from /film that mentions it.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/16/cloverfield-shoots-flashback-sequence-at-coney-island/

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psudub wrote:
Someone, a couple of pages back, mentioned they'd like to have the battery life of (presumably) Hud's camcorder...


I have a camcorder that, with the secondary battery, could let me record upwards of three hours without recharging or plugging it in.

Besides, this is a movie... expect some degree of movie "magic", at least in this regard.

detranova wrote:
Actually, to clarify, wasn't there some news about filming a flashback for the next trailer at Coney Island? Had that been addressed already? Searching didn't turn up the particular thread and post I was looking for, but I'd think that if they did film a flashback scene, it couldn't be in a handycam-filmed movie. Thus, it'd have to be in any new trailer that crops up. Was the whole Coney Island thing for real, and actually for 1-18-08? Cuz if it was, then its absence from this trailer is pretty suspicious.


Don't expect every scene in a two hour movie to be crammed in to a two minute trailer. Besides, the Coney Island stuff is movie material and is meant to be for character development; it has no place in a trailer.

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[quote="DougBThree"]
jojo wrote:
it sounds like it's still too early for anything to be shipping to theaters. Also, the article says the trailer was labeled with a version number and some comments about new FX. Well, what exactly was labeled? I'm assuming he's referring to a DVD or CD, not a film print.


I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I've done some editting work for friends of mine on short films and commercials, and it's commonplace to put a 5 second title screen before the piece starts, especially with demo work. On a movie with a low budget, trailers could be made from rough cuts- before the CGI is added- to save money on the eventual animation. It would make more sense to me to animate and then cut the trailer, but you never know.

Basically, don't discount it because of the label, they're almost always there... you just don't see them. Smile

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Patiently waiting... wrote:
^ Thanks for the info. I kind of figured that was it. Lame.

I dont get the part about the shadow of the woman getting killed by one of the little monsters, or wait maybe 2. He could see the shadow of her but not the monster?? Arms, legs, shape possibly?? Size compared to the woman?? How was he killing her?? With his mouth, tearing her apart with claws, tail?? He could make out the woman though?? I dont believe this dude.



If it was a shadow then the likely event was that it was cast against a wall and such wouldn't allow for an accurate guess of size or shape, and that's under the assumption it's legitimate.

I formed my own opinions of Devlin back when there was some of that recent Ghostbusters 3 buzz and he completely derided a third Ghostbusters movie, sounds like he's doing the same here (and showing quite the hard on for slating Abrams and anything he does). There's been a lot of convincing reasoning going on here so personally, I don't believe he's seen any trailer and that his post is a hoax.
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gypsy songman wrote:

Basically, don't discount it because of the label, they're almost always there... you just don't see them. Smile


Oh, I wasn't discounting it because of the label. I was wishing he had indicated what actual physical object was labeled. A piece of film? A CD-ROM? A VHS tape? He doesn't give any info on how he actually watched the trailer and what medium it was provided on.

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Another thing, and maybe some of the legal eagles can chime in on this... if it is in fact the movie's name, why isn't "Cloverfield" a registered trademark for anyone?

We found "Overnight" as a sort of fluke, and I still feel that's the title. If "Cloverfield" were the title, it would have to be trademarked by now. Look through the PTO search for "Paramount Pictures Corporation" as the registrar and you'll see a who's who of movie title, ranging from "Mork and Mindy" to "Star Trek" to future movies. The fact that the movie's supposed title isn't there, or anywhere, doesn't feel right.

If "Overnight" isn't the title (again, I strongly feel that it is), I'm sure the title is in there *somewhere*, registered through a ghost company like Bold Futura.

On a side note, I just realized something: "PARAfun" could be a play on PARAmount.

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Nighthawk, those are all excellent points. They would have to be completely idiotic to not have registered 'Cloverfield' by now, I completely agree. I think this is the strongest piece of evidence so far that this is total B.S. I'm guessing its very likely there will be a trailer before Beowulf, but not how this joker describes it.

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jojo wrote:
Nighthawk, those are all excellent points. They would have to be completely idiotic to not have registered 'Cloverfield' by now, I completely agree. I think this is the strongest piece of evidence so far that this is total B.S. I'm guessing its very likely there will be a trailer before Beowulf, but not how this joker describes it.


Just as a point of reference, here's the registrations for Beowulf:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=3rot8n.38.93
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=3rot8n.40.2

Filed in JANUARY of this year, eleven months before its release. That's the way things are supposed to be done.

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Nighthawk wrote:
Another thing, and maybe some of the legal eagles can chime in on this... if it is in fact the movie's name, why isn't "Cloverfield" a registered trademark for anyone?

We found "Overnight" as a sort of fluke, and I still feel that's the title. If "Cloverfield" were the title, it would have to be trademarked by now. Look through the PTO search for "Paramount Pictures Corporation" as the registrar and you'll see a who's who of movie title, ranging from "Mork and Mindy" to "Star Trek" to future movies. The fact that the movie's supposed title isn't there, or anywhere, doesn't feel right.

If "Overnight" isn't the title (again, I strongly feel that it is), I'm sure the title is in there *somewhere*, registered through a ghost company like Bold Futura.

On a side note, I just realized something: "PARAfun" could be a play on PARAmount.


Nighthawk, you may be onto something. I know some have said anagrams won't be part of this, but I ran a couple of the lines from PARAffun's uses through the anagram generator and got 'Paramount' plus some other words (none seemed to be important). What's interesting is only a couple of the lines have the right letters.

The anagram generator I'm using (wordsmith)won't let me put all the letters in. Anyone have a better generator>

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