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Nighthawk wrote:
psudub wrote:
Someone, a couple of pages back, mentioned they'd like to have the battery life of (presumably) Hud's camcorder...


I have a camcorder that, with the secondary battery, could let me record upwards of three hours without recharging or plugging it in.

Besides, this is a movie... expect some degree of movie "magic", at least in this regard.

No magic is needed to suggest that a movie that will likely cover the events of more than 3 hours could be done based on the idea of a handheld HD camera being used to take the footage. Yes, it seems Hud takes a lot of footage - but there are breaks in the footage from the party. That means there's time that lapses there. How much battery life did we just save, vs the passage of time on the clock?
The other factor here is that even if he's got more than 3 hours of footage in total on that camera, do you think JJ is going to make us a movie on his budget, and have us sit there for over 3 hours watching drama unfold?
This isn't the extended versions of Lord of the Rings, it's a single movie made on a pretty small budget.
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Another thing, and maybe some of the legal eagles can chime in on this... if it is in fact the movie's name, why isn't "Cloverfield" a registered trademark for anyone?

We found "Overnight" as a sort of fluke, and I still feel that's the title. If "Cloverfield" were the title, it would have to be trademarked by now. Look through the PTO search for "Paramount Pictures Corporation" as the registrar and you'll see a who's who of movie title, ranging from "Mork and Mindy" to "Star Trek" to future movies. The fact that the movie's supposed title isn't there, or anywhere, doesn't feel right.

If "Overnight" isn't the title (again, I strongly feel that it is), I'm sure the title is in there *somewhere*, registered through a ghost company like Bold Futura.

On a side note, I just realized something: "PARAfun" could be a play on PARAmount.

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I wish that had occurred to me, that's the kind if thing I should be noticing!
That's a brilliant point, and now you've given hoards of fans a haystack to tear through looking for that needle.

Maybe JJ has already given us the title, we are meant to use the fake company names we have at hand to find it.
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Euchre wrote:
Maybe JJ has already given us the title, we are meant to use the fake company names we have at hand to find it.


Watch the movie name be something stupid like Tagruato.

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Siffblu wrote:
Euchre wrote:
Maybe JJ has already given us the title, we are meant to use the fake company names we have at hand to find it.


Watch the movie name be something stupid like Tagruato.

Actually based on what Nighthawk was saying about protecting the movie name, what if JJ had just the right name in mind, only to find somebody else already owned it - you can see how he might play these dodge games to play off the fact he's saying to himself 'Oh crap! What am I going to come up with now?'.
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Is there some website where you can check if something's trademarked and by whom?
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dr_worm wrote:
Is there some website where you can check if something's trademarked and by whom?


Library of Congress?

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dr_worm wrote:
Is there some website where you can check if something's trademarked and by whom?


Yes. It's www.uspto.gov

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I have a background in law, I can address the Cloverfield thing.

It's a very, very valid point to bring up. The movie studio would, by nature, common sense and foresight, trademark the name of a film produced by someone who has the ability to put tons of asses in movie theater seats. If I was Paramount, I would've registered "Cloverfield" even if it was a fake title. Doesn't take much effort. But, yes, the title of a film would 9 times out of 10 be trademarked by a huge, multi-million dollar movie studio.

It isn't about claiming the rights to a name so no one else can use it. If a movie called "Lost" came out tomorrow that had nothing to do with the show, wasn't a blatant rip-off and didn't step on any toes, that'd be fine. But if a movie studio doesn't copyright the name of a potential franchise, it really has no rights over the franchise at all except for that one movie. And once that's been out on DVD for a few months, how further could you push it? What if Abrams wanted to take the franchise to Miramax? He'd be able to, if Paramount didn't own the rights to the franchise, and owning the rights to the name would be the first step they'd take in that process.

Simply put, "Cloverfield" would be registered because "Cloverfield" is a potential box office blockbuster that could unravel into a very lucrative movie franchise. Then again, they could just be holding off because they can. No one's seen the movie. No one knows the title. It hasn't yet proved itself to be more than internet hype. They have time to kill. But we're almost at the 60 day mark here, and Paramount would either own the copyright to the movie's title or it'd be pending. It could be pending. I'd keep an eye on that site.

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Euchre wrote:
Siffblu wrote:
Euchre wrote:
Maybe JJ has already given us the title, we are meant to use the fake company names we have at hand to find it.


Watch the movie name be something stupid like Tagruato.

Actually based on what Nighthawk was saying about protecting the movie name, what if JJ had just the right name in mind, only to find somebody else already owned it - you can see how he might play these dodge games to play off the fact he's saying to himself 'Oh crap! What am I going to come up with now?'.


In that case, dibs on the credit for "finding" the movie name, should it be Tagruato. Wink

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I've once again done a thorough search through the trademark site, and haven't found anything. On a side note, dear God they have a billion Star Trek related trademarks. Heck, the even have lesser character names trademarked!

By now they should have (1) the movie name, and (2) the creature's name, if it has one.

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Nighthawk wrote:
I've once again done a thorough search through the trademark site, and haven't found anything. On a side note, dear God they have a billion Star Trek related trademarks. Heck, the even have lesser character names trademarked!

By now they should have (1) the movie name, and (2) the creature's name, if it has one.

I was doing a bit of a search myself, and I noticed the myriad of things from Star Trek. I think the way they did that is smart considering it gives them two things - first everything Star Trek is well protected, and second it helps bury listings of things they really don't want known yet. There's such a limit on filters and results that you have to work hard on filtering methods to get to their possessions that aren't Star Trek.
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FWIW: I occasionally check the in game but otherwise dead sites, one being http://www.cloverfieldmovie.com/.

So far (although I wasn't really keeping track) it was a blank page, then it forwarded to paramount, then it was unavailable, then it forwarded to paramount again...

Today I checked it, and it's a blank page again. However, it's titled "Untitled".

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Eddy wrote:
FWIW: I occasionally check the in game but otherwise dead sites, one being http://www.cloverfieldmovie.com/.

So far (although I wasn't really keeping track) it was a blank page, then it forwarded to paramount, then it was unavailable, then it forwarded to paramount again...

Today I checked it, and it's a blank page again. However, it's titled "Untitled".


Further proof to my theory that something big's about to happen...

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underwaterdonkey wrote:
Eddy wrote:
FWIW: I occasionally check the in game but otherwise dead sites, one being http://www.cloverfieldmovie.com/.

So far (although I wasn't really keeping track) it was a blank page, then it forwarded to paramount, then it was unavailable, then it forwarded to paramount again...

Today I checked it, and it's a blank page again. However, it's titled "Untitled".


Further proof to my theory that something big's about to happen...

Not really. It was registered on Feb 2nd and originally redirected to Paramount's site, but has been blank for a LONG time now.

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MrToasty wrote:
underwaterdonkey wrote:
Eddy wrote:
FWIW: I occasionally check the in game but otherwise dead sites, one being http://www.cloverfieldmovie.com/.

So far (although I wasn't really keeping track) it was a blank page, then it forwarded to paramount, then it was unavailable, then it forwarded to paramount again...

Today I checked it, and it's a blank page again. However, it's titled "Untitled".


Further proof to my theory that something big's about to happen...

Not really. It was registered on Feb 2nd and originally redirected to Paramount's site, but has been blank for a LONG time now.


Yes, but it has a title now!

I'm probably clinging at straws, but whatever, I'm keeping the faith!

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