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[META]HOLLYWOOD WRITERS ON STRIKE
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hello moto
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 		[META]HOLLYWOOD WRITERS ON STRIKE
might affect trailer
i just heard that most if not all of the writers are going to walk out so suppose that it also means jj himself they alraedy made the movie but the thing that im worried is that it might delay the making of the trailer Sad



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 		This will not delay any part of this movie as filming is already done. Unless they were planning on reshooting a scene rewritten by the writer. The trailer is compiled of film already taken It's done finito finished. It's editing from here on out if it already isn't done which it most likely is.

ALSO you might want to change your topic to WRITERS ON STRIKE. Hollywood isn't on strike. The actors (Screen Actor's Guild) contract is not up until next year only the Writer's Guild of America is on strike and that actually will not most likely happen until Monday.

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 		OT, but am I the only one who thinks a protracted Writers' strike might make TV marginally more interesting?

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gypsy songman wrote:
OT, but am I the only one who thinks a protracted Writers' strike might make TV marginally more interesting?


No writers = more reality TV

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 		Most networks have stockpiles of scripts on hand. ussually an entire seasons worth. So the strike wont cause problems right off the bat. Except maybe talk shows, they need current writers daily to write jokes about current events.

The writers contracts are running out from 1988 (the last writers strike) At that time they wanted to be included in the VHS sales, unfourtunatly they settled on a very low amount (no one thought home video was going to become what it is today) So the writers want a cut of DVD sales now.

No in 1988 since writers refused to write screenplays for films, they found work in a new medium that no one had heard of. It was called "CABEL TV"

A friend of mine, who works in the special effects field says that this strike may pave the way for a new medium. For example Internet Movie studios.

Get your scripts ready

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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
gypsy songman wrote:
OT, but am I the only one who thinks a protracted Writers' strike might make TV marginally more interesting?


No writers = more reality TV


that makes me feel the same as when i watched 2girls1cup

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 		I realize that the writers involvement in the movie at this point would be limited, but wouldn't they still have rights associated with the movie? Just because the movie is in post, I don't think we're in the clear.

Honestly, I think I could wait for cloverfield a while longer, but if Lost isn't back on... that's a paddlin'. and by paddlin', i mean a murderous rampage.

Anyone able to silence these fears for me?

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iRegretNothing wrote:
I realize that the writers involvement in the movie at this point would be limited, but wouldn't they still have rights associated with the movie? Just because the movie is in post, I don't think we're in the clear.

Honestly, I think I could wait for cloverfield a while longer, but if Lost isn't back on... that's a paddlin'. and by paddlin', i mean a murderous rampage.

Anyone able to silence these fears for me?


i have the same concern, they've filmed 8 or 9 episodes of lost so far but this strike might make it a very short season.

although the strike is mostly about the writers not being paid royalties for internet shows and downloaded material, so i don't think cloverfield is in too much potential trouble.

i'm concerned about the daily show and colbert report, it's almost impossible for them to stockpile scripts. although they might rely on comedians that may not be part of the strike (i hope).

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 		I'm not really worried about the movie or the trailers...

Does this mean the end of the Cloverfield ARG? Will we get no more updates until this is resolved? Crying or Very sad

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clownnation wrote:
Most networks have stockpiles of scripts on hand. ussually an entire seasons worth.

I'm no expert, but for many shows I don't believe that's true. That leaves no room for incorporating current events or gaging audience reaction.
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So the strike wont cause problems right off the bat. Except maybe talk shows, they need current writers daily to write jokes about current events.

Talk shows will definitely be the first to suffer hard, but this has already claimed at least one high profile (mid-season) prime-time victim:
NBC Benches New Heroes

As far as the impact on this movie, I would expect minimal. It's not uncommon to need pickup shots up to close to release time, but as long as ther aren't any major flaws with the film there shouldn't be any real writing left to do.

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MrToasty wrote:
clownnation wrote:
Most networks have stockpiles of scripts on hand. ussually an entire seasons worth.

I'm no expert, but for many shows I don't believe that's true. That leaves no room for incorporating current events or gaging audience reaction.


You're right. Here's a great article from Variety:

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If history is any guide, [David Letterman's and Jay Leno's] shows will almost instantly go dark, as would "Saturday Night Live." Comedy Central's latenight stalwarts "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" and "The Colbert Report" would also likely switch to repeats in the immediate aftermath of a strike.

"Boom -- our show just shuts down," said "SNL" vet Amy Poehler. "It's just done. There is no backlog of scripts."

Primetime comedy and drama series will feel the pinch immediately, though the on-air effect will be delayed at least a few weeks for most shows as they air completed segs. Cruelest blows will hit the frosh crop of shows that are just starting to get a toehold with viewers, including ABC's "Private Practice," "Pushing Daisies" and "Samantha Who" and CBS' "The Big Bang Theory."
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In general, most nets will have four or five filmed episodes of most of their shows on hand as of Thursday. In addition, most shows have anywhere from one to five scripts that have been written but not yet shot.

Just when repeats will begin popping up "depends on whether we can shoot these other episodes," one insider said. Even if actors agree to film those episodes, scribes won't be available to do rewrites or make changes based on network notes.

Most likely, original episodes will start disappearing by early December or January. And it's no mystery what will fill those timeslots.


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Enantiomorphic wrote:
iRegretNothing wrote:
I realize that the writers involvement in the movie at this point would be limited, but wouldn't they still have rights associated with the movie? Just because the movie is in post, I don't think we're in the clear.

Honestly, I think I could wait for cloverfield a while longer, but if Lost isn't back on... that's a paddlin'. and by paddlin', i mean a murderous rampage.

Anyone able to silence these fears for me?


i have the same concern, they've filmed 8 or 9 episodes of lost so far but this strike might make it a very short season.

although the strike is mostly about the writers not being paid royalties for internet shows and downloaded material, so i don't think cloverfield is in too much potential trouble.

i'm concerned about the daily show and colbert report, it's almost impossible for them to stockpile scripts. although they might rely on comedians that may not be part of the strike (i hope).


From what I've read it's not that the studios aren't willing to pay for internet and download it's that they want to keep the horrible rate in place now for DVD to apply it to those medias. When DVD came out the studios were like this isn't proven and are giving writer's something like .05%, and that's all they will be willing to pay for internet, mobile media. The writer's will NOT accept this. THey already feel the shaft that they get next to nothing on DVD sale. The figure i keep seeing quoted is Hotel Rwanda made $23M box office, $48M DVD sales.

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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
I'm not really worried about the movie or the trailers...

Does this mean the end of the Cloverfield ARG? Will we get no more updates until this is resolved? Crying or Very sad

well if all they have to do is just edit the trailer then i guess there is no problem but instead it means that to get no more info about cloverfiled we either have to see the movie or until the writers stop striking which might take a while since the last one lasted 22 weeks by then we would have already watched cloverfield
im going to have SNL fatigue Crying or Very sad

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tinytim wrote:
From what I've read it's not that the studios aren't willing to pay for internet and download it's that they want to keep the horrible rate in place now for DVD to apply it to those medias. When DVD came out the studios were like this isn't proven and are giving writer's something like .05%, and that's all they will be willing to pay for internet, mobile media. The writer's will NOT accept this. THey already feel the shaft that they get next to nothing on DVD sale. The figure i keep seeing quoted is Hotel Rwanda made $23M box office, $48M DVD sales.


Actually, they are suggesting not paying for streaming video

From Variety:

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Young also went over the companies' proposal that programming delivered streaming video be considered "promotional" - under which writers would not be paid. That provoked an especially hostile reaction from the crowd.
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The WGA ... is still asking to double residuals for any [DVD] with over $1 million in wholesale revenues.

Scribes currently receive less than a nickel for each disc sold but studios and nets contend that DVD revenues are critical for film and TV projects to break even amid sharply rising costs.


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hello moto wrote:
CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
I'm not really worried about the movie or the trailers...

Does this mean the end of the Cloverfield ARG? Will we get no more updates until this is resolved? Crying or Very sad

well if all they have to do is just edit the trailer then i guess there is no problem but instead it means that to get no more info about cloverfiled we either have to see the movie or until the writers stop striking which might take a while since the last one lasted 22 weeks by then we would have already watched cloverfield
im going to have SNL fatigue Crying or Very sad


The ARG, if you can call it that, is done by a marketing firm. Not the writers. It may mean any Jamie and Teddy videos not scripted will not be made, but I would assume since this strike has been looming and they, I would hope, had an overall outline for the ARG(?) that they would have pushed any content needed from the writer's to be done by this time. This isn't a seat of the pants idea. It has been manged and outlined from the beginning. I am not worried this will affect anythign about this movie, trailer, ARG(?).

Just my .02 Mr. Green

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