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**Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:37 am

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matt_ethec · Boot Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 55

Yeah they're Itunes normalization and gapless info tags. But they are corrupt. In so much as they don't register in itunes. I'm curious... here are the characters i was able to pull out of them so far:

唜襂졎筳組敭; 苾廼 for the first track (the one in Jamie's video) unnamed in its ID3 tag, but identified as The Green Force on myspace.

杬投諬蟣 ; 憒 For Ockems Razor

Might be nothing. Might just be a coincidence. But ~~Japanese~~ Chinese (and perhaps Korean) characters in the volume normalization tag? Dunno. Just trying to run down angles. I suppose it could be a coincidence.

ED : I figured out the weird repeating file biz. My download accelerator put it together strangely.

The tag info is the same. I think there is something goofy here and am curious. Sorry if I'm annoying you all.

DOH! I'm such an ugly American. it appears to be Chinese. I went here to try to get some translations. http://www.xuezhongwen.net/chindict/chindict.php

Here's what I've found. Pretty crazy if its just a coincidence, eh?

唜襂졎筳組敭; 苾廼
--
唜 undefined
襂 undefined
졎 undefined (not Chinese? I think Korean)
筳 feast
組 class; section, department
敭 scatter, spread; praise; raise
苾 smell, fragrance, aroma
廼 then, thereupon, only then

杬投諬蟣 ; 憒
--
杬 undefined
投 throw, cast, fling, pitch; jump
諬 to open to begin to explain to inform a letter
蟣 louse eggs, nits
憒 confused, troubled, muddle-headed

Add one last bit: ޤ
Dunno but that but it turns up in Google searches.

**Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:05 pm

Cyclotron · Boot Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 52

Now thats interesting...

Look, it is obvious that Jamie's strip song and the Green Force are the same thing.

Listen to the Green Force and i still can't believe how someone would have ripped a part of the song ( since it's not the complete song ) and make a totally clean and complete version of it...

If that was some act of some production, i think that page would have been shut down a long time ago, since they're so secretive about things. They wouldnt have let that happen.

besides its clearly not punk of course, i think its more a way to tell how Jamie isnt too clever about things ( including "non-partying" music she can't dig...) and that she just did that to please the guy...

Edit : and the website isnt a dead godaddy page but is registered thru Domains by Proxy...Could be worse, as we're still working on the tidowave.com which is registered the same way...

and another thing : the only way this could be OOG is that the song was available somewhere else the same day jamie's video was posted, or if the song isnt original, that someone who's in the ARG knew the band and recognized the song and went to make a myspace page the a few hours atfer with a full fake review...Someone who would be into Hyperion and all that....

**Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:28 am

Dlac

I'm sick to hell of Jamie and her stupid videos that offer pretty much nothing. I hope the present is a baby Grumpypants. He's been asleep for three months and now it's time to wake up and eat the dumb blonde who won't even be in the movie.

And isn't even that cute.

Teddy's probably just dodging her. "Yeah, I got this long trip I have to go on.....I'll talk to you later, peace out..."

Useless.

Wait, cornbread! That's it! The answer to all of this! Cornbread + Bladder Infection - Glass Helmets =

**Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:46 am

matt_ethec · Boot Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 55

I'm not 100% sold on these chinese characters being anything other than a fluke born of using hex strings. Even the filenames beak down into perfect hex pairs. And even groups of 8.

Maybe myspace automatically renames files for upload to some sort of random string. You think that if it did, that string would quickly convert back to an ascii name or a time stamp.

The best info I can find about these itunes tags suggest that these tags were edited after itunes made them. The norm tag is supposed to be 5 pairs of hex values. Its clearly not. Ockem's razor has a cddb id tag. But the cddb doesn't show an album of this name.

I'm almost 100% sure that there is hidden information in these tags. I'm just not seeming to be able to unlock it. I don't see how its possible for someone to have faked that song. There was some dude back there who said it would be easy, in classic 'netaddichio.

I can't find any other myspace music pages that allow downloading to check the weird filenames. And I can't shake the inclusion of only a broken tag in a file. I'm going to put down all the alleys i investigated here, so someone else can spot a decoding step I might not have thought of.
Sorry if this is to awful to bear:

full_EFECBc4713bec4cd56f059fab9506e50.mp3 (the green force)

唜襂졎筳組敭 ; 苾廼

ޤ

Tag Contents:
COMMENT ITUNNORM : 000009DB 000007A4 0000551C 00008942 0001F13E 0000C84E 00007B73 00007D44 0000A687 0000656D
COMMENT ITUNSMPB : 00000000 00000210 00000B10 000000000082FE60 00000000 005EFCBD 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

Tags converted to unicode:
COMMENT ITUNNORM : 00৛ 00ޤ 00唜 00襂 00🄾 00졎 00筳 00組 00ꚇ 00敭
COMMENT ITUNSMPB : 00000000 00Ȑ 00ଐ 00000000苾60 00000000 廼BD 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

filename hex to ascii:
EFECBc4713bec4cd56f059fab9506e50
��+G �--V�Y��PnP

filename hex to unicode (pairs):
EF EC Bc 47 13 be c4 cd 56 f0 59 fa b9 50 6e 50
� � � G � � � V � Y � � P n P

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

full_a37145f2e558d5300290c73a9c173e63.mp3 (ockems razor)

杬投諬蟣 ; 憒

Tag contents:
COMMENT ITUNNORM : 00001657 000015B7 0000676C 00006295 0001EB6D 00000C8D 00008AEC 000087E3 00015ED0 00012DD6
COMMENT ITUNSMPB : 00000000 00000210 000007EC 0000000000619284 00000000 00350B98 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
COMMENT ITUNES_CDDB_IDS : 1+D7743843843D169DA37D9D0783213AEE+8381078

Tags converted to unicode:
COMMENT ITUNNORM : 00ᙗ 00ᖷ 00杬 00投 00𞭭 00಍ 00諬 00蟣 00𕻐 00𒷖
COMMENT ITUNSMPB : 00000000 00Ȑ 00߬ 00000000憒84 00000000 㔋98 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
COMMENT ITUNES_CDDB_IDS: 1 + 󗝃843 落169D ꍽ鴇茡㫮 + 莁078

filename hex to ascii:
a37145f2e558d5300290c73a9c173e63
�qE_�Xi0 ��:� >c

filename hex to unicode (pairs) :
a3 71 45 f2 e5 58 d5 30 02 90 c7 3a 9c 17 3e 63
� q E � � X � 0 � � : œ > c

**Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:27 pm

Caerwiden · Unfettered Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 651

**Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:40 pm

info_guy

Myspace Blog

**Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:07 pm

retina · Decorated Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 197

Well that's definitely something. IG?

Edit: Here's the blog entry.

**Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:12 pm

Mystlyfe

**Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:03 am

Shadowfury

Someone just opened up a can of worms over there with that TIDOwave reference.... Confused

**Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:21 am

Cyclotron · Boot Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 52

**Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:39 am

aht · Boot Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 23 Location: MA

This is frustrating... uF rushes to get their names on possible IG sites is killing some of the credibility Sad

FUN IS RUINED!

**Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:44 am

unclear · Decorated Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 189

Umm.. Why is that people think that anything about this game is arbitrary? Yea, maybe she refers to The Glass Helmets, a band noone has ever heard of for no reason, but what would be the point? There is obviously some sort of significance in that band. And why would it be too much for them to ask of us to check MySpace for an in-game page? It isn't like that has ever happened before. Seven times. I dunno, I know a lot of you have been doing this ARG thing a lot longer than me, and maybe I'm just naive, but it seems to me that someone creating a MySpace page, writing a song, and buying a domain name (with impeccable timing) is a lot harder to believe then it just being part of the game. And for the striptease song, it is fairly unbelievable to me that they re-performed it or increased the quality of the one from the video.

Obviously my vote is that The Glass Helmets MySpace page is IG.

That being said, I'm glad that some of the players in this thread have some faith and have already began investigating the page and the songs with great scrutiny, rather than debating its validity. I think you guys might really be on to something with those altered tags. Why else would that be like that? Especially with the one that says specifically that it was encoded in iTunes... why then would the tags not read in iTunes? I think we should really play around with these hex strings some more... Lets flip them backwards and upside-down and see if we can't get some sort of meaning out of them. I like where you're going with the Chinese/Japanese translation, I wish I knew one of the languages so I could help out more... I'll talk to my buddies.

**Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:40 am

Cyclotron · Boot Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 52

We totally need to see whats in those files indeed...im unable to go further a certain point im afraid when it comes to hex encoding and stuff...

But did anyone else than me see that Ennio Morricone tag ? I found some info about some real life Hyperion Orchestra who played some Ennio Morricone tunes, but that was it...

**Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:53 am

unclear · Decorated Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 189

The Hyperion and Morricone references might just be shoutouts from JJ Abrams. I'm thinking the hex code contains something more important. Either with Chinese characters or there might be some way we need to alter the numbers? Flip them around or something.. That kinda stuff was really big in parts of the lost experience I think.

**Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:58 am