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[SPEC] Theories on what rouses the creature?
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fleabit
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[SPEC] Theories on what rouses the creature?

Not sure how to tag.. please don't yell at me. Razz

Just curious what everyone's theories on what rouses the creature from its slumber, and why it makes for NYC. From what I can guess so far:

From the oilfield sites on the interactive map, the closest opened near NYC in Sep 07. So that would be my primary guess on what roused this creature to begin with. Was it sleeping? Maybe. Cthulu was sleeping! ok.. I won't go there

But if I could guess, I'd say that the drilling roused it. Once it woke, it found it was missing something. The seabed nectar. Gone from collecting to make Slusho!, it is something to it. Either a food source, or perhaps.. its eggs? Makes me wonder if its spawn are very tiny. Thus the reaction and people turning into whales or whatever they are doing once exposed to the critter.

Also, how does the critter know to make its way to NYC proper? How smart it is?

Any other theories on what rouses the creature to begin with? I've heard government involvement theories, but I am not sure I buy that.



Edit: Tagged. -SpaceBass

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I think the Seabed Nectar being of some importance physiologically to the monster is a sound and likely theory.

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I don't know but I would think that Slusho actually has very little to do with the story. I think the Slusho websites have been giving us little clues but as for the drink itself, it just seems cheesy. I mean here we have this trailer which looks to be some sort of monster/parasite/emotional drama movie and then its all about a drink? I hope they don't explain much about it. My wish is that you get very few glimpses of the beast, and that you don't know anything that the characters don't. They will probably pay homage to Slusho in the form of Hawk's shirt or perhaps a Slusho machine but I really hope its not a sweet nectar that makes Slusho is a creature who is mad, who kills people because it wants its juice back. I think that would be cheesy

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Tagruato drilling probably.

and btw, since the entire movie will probably be handheld, we will probably not see any scenes of japan, tagruato, or the slusho factory.

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rers613 wrote:
I don't know but I would think that Slusho actually has very little to do with the story. I think the Slusho websites have been giving us little clues but as for the drink itself, it just seems cheesy. I mean here we have this trailer which looks to be some sort of monster/parasite/emotional drama movie and then its all about a drink? I hope they don't explain much about it. My wish is that you get very few glimpses of the beast, and that you don't know anything that the characters don't. They will probably pay homage to Slusho in the form of Hawk's shirt or perhaps a Slusho machine but I really hope its not a sweet nectar that makes Slusho is a creature who is mad, who kills people because it wants its juice back. I think that would be cheesy


I don't think it would be cheesy at all...

Think about it... Whacky Japanese company finds an amazing new resource while drilling deep under the ocean... Of course they're going to market it... The idea that what is seemingly an innocent new ingredient for a soft drink turns out to have some kind of physiological significance to a huge, previously dormant creature that goes on a rampage once awakened...

Makes a lot of sense to me, and doesn't seem cheesy at all. It seems like something that could actually happen.

The focus wouldn't be on the drink itself, but on the Seabed Nectar and its relevance to the monster.

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I firmly believe that seabed's nectar is indeed a major plotline. They've invested too much into it already, and hints from the movie tell us that much at least. The fact that hazmat teams are trying to extract whatever is inside of people (expanding slusho, slusho critters, slusho transforming people, whatever), and they are bleeding from the eyes, ears, nose etc, points to something ingested. And that hint from someone still comes to mind from an "insider" when this was all new. That people are drinking something, and the creature is attracted to those who have drunk it. They said they extracted that from the script.

I'm guessing they are trying to formulate some ideas that justify a creature rampaging a city other than they have some historic beef with said cities, ala Godzilla and Co.

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Stumper67 wrote:
rers613 wrote:
I don't know but I would think that Slusho actually has very little to do with the story. I think the Slusho websites have been giving us little clues but as for the drink itself, it just seems cheesy. I mean here we have this trailer which looks to be some sort of monster/parasite/emotional drama movie and then its all about a drink? I hope they don't explain much about it. My wish is that you get very few glimpses of the beast, and that you don't know anything that the characters don't. They will probably pay homage to Slusho in the form of Hawk's shirt or perhaps a Slusho machine but I really hope its not a sweet nectar that makes Slusho is a creature who is mad, who kills people because it wants its juice back. I think that would be cheesy


I don't think it would be cheesy at all...

Think about it... Whacky Japanese company finds an amazing new resource while drilling deep under the ocean... Of course they're going to market it... The idea that what is seemingly an innocent new ingredient for a soft drink turns out to have some kind of physiological significance to a huge, previously dormant creature that goes on a rampage once awakened...

Makes a lot of sense to me, and doesn't seem cheesy at all. It seems like something that could actually happen.

The focus wouldn't be on the drink itself, but on the Seabed Nectar and its relevance to the monster.


I think that it "could" make sense for the movie...if it were on the same lines as Godzilla with the whole backstory. I think this will be a completely different spin and dont think JJ would make our own monster movie a play off the original godzilla movies

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Think about it...

Godzilla= Animal Created/Mutated by nuclear power in Japan. Why nuclear? That's what was appropriate at that time.

Cloverfield= Animal created/mutated by deep sea drilling and excavation for CAPITALIST reasons. Why? Oil drilling? Fuel Prices? Zany Energy drinks popping up ALL the time.

This movie is saying: If a situation like godzilla (Man tampering with nature.) this is how it would occur in america. THIS IS AMERICAS EQUIVILANT TO GODZILLA. Ironic how a zany drink marketed by japan causes such a "Large" problem.

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I think that Slusho's main purpose was to create some excitement and give us a clue that it CAME from the ocean. This is further evidenced by the poster, and now Tagruato. I think Tagruato's clue is that maybe it came from deep-sea drilling, which would have roused the creature and pissed it off. That's WAY more explanation than you'd need for a monster movie.

And to some of you, just listen to yourself - Hazmats EXTRACTING SLUSHO FROM PEOPLE?! What about the supposed virus that the monster is spreading? Do you think they might be interested in that instead of harvesting human beings for "seabed nectar"

Gimme a break, people, be realistic. o.o

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IncidentCloverfield wrote:
Think about it...

Godzilla= Animal Created/Mutated by nuclear power in Japan. Why nuclear? That's what was appropriate at that time.

Cloverfield= Animal created/mutated by deep sea drilling and excavation for CAPITALIST reasons. Why? Oil drilling? Fuel Prices? Zany Energy drinks popping up ALL the time.

This movie is saying: If a situation like godzilla (Man tampering with nature.) this is how it would occur in america. THIS IS AMERICAS EQUIVILANT TO GODZILLA. Ironic how a zany drink marketed by japan causes such a "Large" problem.


Japan is a convenient scapegoat. Always have been, them kooky Japanese and their tiny hotels and their massive pedestrian districts and their cu-razy horror films and their hentai and their tentacle-rape and their obsessive work ethic and their ju-ons and their Pokemon and their cosplay and their fashion...

But seriously, I see no problem with the evil drink theory, with the exception that a) it doesn't explain the very sudden scrambling of the US Army to NY (where's the nearest army base to Manhattan? Can someone check that out?) and b)it's simply not box-office enough. Nuclear power is box-office - crazy drink? If you were the average Joe on the street and you hadn't been following the ARG, and a friend asked you, "Wanna go to this new Cloverfield movie? It's about a monster who goes crazy because of a drink", would you go and see it? I would definitely wait until DVD, at least.

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Arkeband wrote:
I think that Slusho's main purpose was to create some excitement and give us a clue that it CAME from the ocean. This is further evidenced by the poster, and now Tagruato. I think Tagruato's clue is that maybe it came from deep-sea drilling, which would have roused the creature and pissed it off. That's WAY more explanation than you'd need for a monster movie.

And to some of you, just listen to yourself - Hazmats EXTRACTING SLUSHO FROM PEOPLE?! What about the supposed virus that the monster is spreading? Do you think they might be interested in that instead of harvesting human beings for "seabed nectar"

Gimme a break, people, be realistic. o.o


I haven't heard anything about a virus.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the DRINK is what the problem is. It's the SECRET INGREDIENT - Seabed Nectar - that would be the problem in this case.

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Things that make sense

A. Deep sea drilling awakens, disrupts or ala the movie leviathan exposes it natural habitat BENEATH the sea floor and unleashing it to a new enviorment.

In fact in that movie there was no real reason for the creature to be hostile and attack people except for the fact that it had been unleashed and was a decent movie for its time imho. I didn't need a reason for it to be hostile to suspend my disbelief but I digress.

B. The sudden and rapid depletion of its food source (sea nectar) and is now in search of a new source.

C. Tampering with and stealing/killing its young, again sea nectar.

Heck, Lur, ruler of Omicron Persei VIII was going to destroy the entire earth!

The last makes the least sense from what we know so far because there are many drilling sites and for all we now, only new york is attacked.

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Tons of Military Bases
Don't just limit it to US Army

Bacon Army wrote:
But seriously, I see no problem with the evil drink theory, with the exception that a) it doesn't explain the very sudden scrambling of the US Army to NY (where's the nearest army base to Manhattan? Can someone check that out?) and b)it's simply not box-office enough. Nuclear power is box-office - crazy drink? If you were the average Joe on the street and you hadn't been following the ARG, and a friend asked you, "Wanna go to this new Cloverfield movie? It's about a monster who goes crazy because of a drink", would you go and see it? I would definitely wait until DVD, at least.

Nevermind "movie logic" or the "movie universe," here's actual factual Military locations in the US.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t259/louis_b_tique/Cloverfield/militarybasesnearnewyork.jpg

It's a PDF available off of
http://www.nps.gov/history/nagpra/DOCUMENTS/BasesMilitaryMAP.htm
From the National Park Service

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^Hooo, nelly. Okay, so that leaves my only gripe being 'movie logic', as you so pointed out, rhesus. It's not a good gripe, so that leaves me open to anything.

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Bacon Army wrote:
^Hooo, nelly. Okay, so that leaves my only gripe being 'movie logic', as you so pointed out, rhesus. It's not a good gripe, so that leaves me open to anything.
Very Happy

My post was "nice" not meant to be read in a bad way, don't think you took it that way, but this is the internet, no contextual clues.

I'm a nice person.

Though I am a huge lion.

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