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[InAFieldofClover]

[saneman]

http://www.sdnhm.org/media/images/rr_beastp8.jpg

The glimpse we've had of the monster in the trailer gives this theory even more credibility, in my opinion. "It's alive" has always been a clue about what in general to expect.

[KingKosi]

I don't think it is "The Beast", the line "It's Alive" could be a reference to old monster movies that came before this one (Like Godzilla, Which JJ admires so much). So i think he is just giving props to movies like that(Like things that Quentin Tarantino does with his movies).

[saneman]

[djspankypants]

ummm just two things to add.

1. I believe this thing has a tail from the clip when they are in the quickie store. I am only saying this since it hit so low on the building. That or its a clumsy creature that walks into the first floor buildings. (or to play devil's advocate, it could be a shockwave from an explosion)

2. i feel like the horse at the end of the trailer is about to get crushed. I know its just a hunch. But the trailers online it looks like something is coming down from the top of the frame before it cuts.

[Bacon Army]

[rjharris1960]

Just a thought. Maybe the beast is something that washed up on Liberty Island one or two days ago. It would get a lot of television coverage re: the dead sea creature that washed up on Liberty Island. Perhaps everyone already saw what they thought was a corpse on televison but now it's animated so people are suprised and they say "It's Alive!!. It's Huge!!"

[Bacon Army]

[saneman]

If that was the case, there wouldn't be so much confusion in the news reports. It would be "AHH! THE GIANT MONSTER WOKE UP!" rather than "mysterious tremors" and whatnot. This thing took everyone by surprise, methinks.

I always err on the side requiring the least amount of exposition anyhoo.

[Polar Bear]

[O0O]

I think the SOL-as-monster theory is plausible at this point. I had this suspicion too, btw. The are too many "subliminal" clues here
- The SOL/movie poster
- the chocolate rage robot striking the SOL pose w/torch (wrong arm)
- SOL head flying through city
- frightened crowd seems to recognize the monster
- JJ said we would get an "american" monster
- its completly unexpected, yet hiding in plain sight
- would be humanoid, robot-like if SOL
- maybe monster has some intelligence; thinks we revere the SOL as a god ,so takes it shape to create more shock and awe
- finally this would just be very original and cool as hell!

[mastenator]

I simply think the teaser had the "It's Alive" as an homage or tip of the hat to classic monster movies, ala 20,000 Fathoms.

I don't think it means much. I don't think it was expected to cause any speculation about freakin' lions either.

I personally believe that the filmmakers were simply amused at the reaction from the public (the 'it's a lion' controversy) and have included the line prominently featured in the new trailer as a laugh (kind of at our expense hehe).

If you listen to the new trailer, it sounds like the end of the word 'alive...' is almost cut off. I think it may be an inside joke and a response to the initial fervor. If that's the case it's hilarious.

(i just realized I've never posted before..lol. anyway I've been lurking since July!)

[Polar Bear]

you started to mention "Subliminal Clues" but then you listed Speculations and Theories...

You should keep in mind all of the facts before coming up with theories... then you may find out that some of what you're saying doesnt make much sense.

I would love to see a mutant SoL pitched as a toy... maybe even some SoL Happy Meals [/sarcasm]
...

Monster or Robot? two different things... Monster implies/connotates living breathing creature...

robot=transformers=voltron≠Cloverfield

Roaring=Godzilla≈Breathing≠robot

water does not normally mix well with Robots too, and it looks like it "swam" to/from the City
...

if it is a SoL monster, then this would all mean that the French had it out to get us from the beginning...

But... I mean... What do I know... I'm only a bear....

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And isnt the "Chocolate Rage" waving, not just sticking his hand up?

[Euchre]

The SoL itself can't hardly be the monster, if you consider:
1. In the poster it's still standing on the island whilst the destruction is going on in the city
2. It's still in it's normal place, sans head, in the helicopter shot in the trailer.
I think they just used the SoL and it's head as a large recognizable symbol. Having it's head tossed ripped off lends you an idea how large and strong this thing is, as does being hurled down the street such a distance. It also invokes some special disgust towards the creature in the movies home audience.

Heh, if only this monster was an Ankylosaurus. That's actually my favorite dinosaur.

I concur with the idea that "It's alive!" is merely an homage to the monster movie genre's past. JJ wants to put himself in that same class of filmmaker as Tarantino and other known great filmmakers, and you'll find most of them espouse the idea of knowing and honoring the heritage of moviemaking.

I think the 'it's alive' response is borne of the human expectation that such large destruction is either going to be a natural disaster, a man made device, or that it's a very crude panicked mental abbreviation of "holy crap, I never expected to see any creature like that actually alive".

[detranova]

The whole Ankylosaurus thing might actually fit in with the Tagruato/NYC drilling plotline. When Toho revamped the Godzilla series in the 90's, they retconned his origin so that Godzilla was actually the last surviving member of a long-extinct species of Dinosaur that was then mutated by a nuclear submarine exploding. Maybe Mr. Grumpy is another such remnant from pre-history, lying frozen in suspended animation at the bottom of the ocean, until Tagruato corp thaws it out and seabed nectar mutates it into a 100 meter-tall beast?