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[SPEC] Whats Alive? is the question we should be asking.
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motrbotr
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mastenator wrote:
I simply think the teaser had the "It's Alive" as an homage or tip of the hat to classic monster movies, ala 20,000 Fathoms.

I don't think it means much. I don't think it was expected to cause any speculation about freakin' lions either.

I personally believe that the filmmakers were simply amused at the reaction from the public (the 'it's a lion' controversy) and have included the line prominently featured in the new trailer as a laugh (kind of at our expense hehe).

If you listen to the new trailer, it sounds like the end of the word 'alive...' is almost cut off. I think it may be an inside joke and a response to the initial fervor. If that's the case it's hilarious.

(i just realized I've never posted before..lol. anyway I've been lurking since July!)


I think your right in the money here. Homage to the older monster movies where crowds are stampeding thru the streets yelling "It's alive!!"
I think that line is in about every Godzilla movie ever made. And it's quite obvious that Godzilla is alive in those movies. Dont need that spelled out.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:15 pm
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"its alive" is quite interesting, if a giant "thing" is attack your city the first thought to cross your mind isnt "its alive", its Holy shit! run, by saying "its Aline" that indicates to me as if somehow this was something that perhaps was'nt always alive, or thought to be dead. But it is early and i am sleepy so this just may be me rambling on*yawn*.

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Just a guess here, but maybe they where watching the news and the reporter on scene says something like:

"The airforce has bombed the creature and it isn't moving anymore. The threat is stopped"

Then everyone hiding indoors comes outside and the thing stands up, so people see it live and in it's full glory for the first time, prompting the line:

"It's alive, it's huge!"

It's probable that I would say that if anything I thought was dead turned out to be alive still.

Jeez, I've done it with animals I thought were dead but weren't in real life before.

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that still doesnt explain the second "its alive" line, if the creature was presumed dead on the NEWS, everyone wouldve known what the hell they were running and hiding from, due to the continued major havoc going on. but instead, his friend begins to explain to him what the deal is before he was rudely interupted by crashing glass.

- why after they were obviously hiding, would he have to say that? He wouldnt, unless robs a retard and doesnt know that hes on the run from... A FREAKING HUGE MONSTER

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uhm something came to my mind when i saw the poster of the movie... we all know we see the statue of liberty and its head thorn of... but we cant see the island its standing on... what if the creature was part of the island or the island itself ?! you know those storys of giant turtles mistaken for islands from fantasy novels... now if i wake up and notice someone put a steel construct on my back i would seriously be pissed and rip it apart Very Happy

oh... and you would surely be surprised to see coney island walk next to you and yell "its alive !"

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Regarding the "it's alive" comments...

I think everyone is forgetting that this movie is not being presented as a classic monster movie. In a classic monster movie, everyone knows that a monster is attacking - that fact is not mulled over; people know it and they move on. THIS movie, though, is being presented as something real, so the characters will react as a person might actually react in a major crisis. And, here's the thing: imagine you are in NYC and suddenly there's explosions and alarms and people screaming - you would NOT think, "oh, must be a monster attack." And, even after people ran past yelling, "it's alive! it's huge!" you STILL probably wouldn't think, "oh, must be a monster attacking the city." Unless you saw it yourself, you'd never believe anyone who told you a monster was attacking - you'd think they were nuts. And, even if you did see it yourself, you might still be wondering what's REALLY going on, i.e., you wouldn't believe your own eyes.

The "it's alive! it's huge!" line in the first trailer makes sense because nobody would think that something big and alive (i.e., monster) was attacking the city; they'd all think it was terrorists or something political, but never a MONSTER. I mean, c'mon. When Hud or Hawk tells Rob "it's alive" in the ruined store, it's easy enough to imagine Rob not totally buying the reports of a monster attacking. Again - who would?!

So, give the writers and actors some leeway here, is all I'm sayin'.

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Here is my take on the "it"s alive" exclamation. I think that something big washed ashore near the Statue of Liberty, like a pod or a shelled creature curled into a ball. It may have even been partially submerged.

It was presumed dead, but perhaps it was only dormant as it was adjusting to the pressure and temperature of the surface. They may have sent out teams to look at it, but many began to get sick, so Liberty Island was quarantined until they could figure out what to do -- not telling the public why of course.

I suspect that Rob knows about the outbreak through his work with Tagruato, which explains his lack of surprise, and his apparent lack of concern for the monster outside when he's asking for help because "she's dying."

In any case, the "thing" that washed ashore would have been all over the news, so when it suddenly awoke and started its redecorating of NYC, people would naturally be surprised that it was a live, and that it was bigger than first suspected. Hence the line "it's alive, it's huge."

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Melampus wrote:
Regarding the "it's alive" comments...

I think everyone is forgetting that this movie is not being presented as a classic monster movie. In a classic monster movie, everyone knows that a monster is attacking - that fact is not mulled over; people know it and they move on. THIS movie, though, is being presented as something real, so the characters will react as a person might actually react in a major crisis. And, here's the thing: imagine you are in NYC and suddenly there's explosions and alarms and people screaming - you would NOT think, "oh, must be a monster attack." And, even after people ran past yelling, "it's alive! it's huge!" you STILL probably wouldn't think, "oh, must be a monster attacking the city." Unless you saw it yourself, you'd never believe anyone who told you a monster was attacking - you'd think they were nuts. And, even if you did see it yourself, you might still be wondering what's REALLY going on, i.e., you wouldn't believe your own eyes.

The "it's alive! it's huge!" line in the first trailer makes sense because nobody would think that something big and alive (i.e., monster) was attacking the city; they'd all think it was terrorists or something political, but never a MONSTER. I mean, c'mon. When Hud or Hawk tells Rob "it's alive" in the ruined store, it's easy enough to imagine Rob not totally buying the reports of a monster attacking. Again - who would?!

So, give the writers and actors some leeway here, is all I'm sayin'.


I can buy that. There is no way anyone would believe a monster was attacking unless they saw it for themselves. And like you said, it would still be hard to believe. There are no such things as monsters. Also, these people are running for their lives, they are in a panic, not just any panic like being scared when someone jumps around a corner and says boo! But a major, life or death panic. At that moment when they are scared for their lives, they are probably not thinking clearly and for sure not trying to concentrate on proper grammar or putting thoughts into correct words.

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Horned1 wrote:
Here is my take on the "it"s alive" exclamation. I think that something big washed ashore near the Statue of Liberty, like a pod or a shelled creature curled into a ball. It may have even been partially submerged.

It was presumed dead, but perhaps it was only dormant as it was adjusting to the pressure and temperature of the surface. They may have sent out teams to look at it, but many began to get sick, so Liberty Island was quarantined until they could figure out what to do -- not telling the public why of course.

I suspect that Rob knows about the outbreak through his work with Tagruato, which explains his lack of surprise, and his apparent lack of concern for the monster outside when he's asking for help because "she's dying."

In any case, the "thing" that washed ashore would have been all over the news, so when it suddenly awoke and started its redecorating of NYC, people would naturally be surprised that it was a live, and that it was bigger than first suspected. Hence the line "it's alive, it's huge."


I don't think so -- remember the part of the trailer when he's like "seven hours ago...some THING attacked the city" -- doesn't seem like something you'd say in reference to a creature that's been splashed all over the news already.

Also, the new placement of "it's alive" in the trailer (or at least, that's what I hear) seems like it comes near the end, so they might be wondering if the military actually killed it. (Thus, "it's alive" just means "no, they haven't killed it.")

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cloverfreaky wrote:
Horned1 wrote:
Here is my take on the "it"s alive" exclamation. I think that something big washed ashore near the Statue of Liberty, like a pod or a shelled creature curled into a ball. It may have even been partially submerged.

It was presumed dead, but perhaps it was only dormant as it was adjusting to the pressure and temperature of the surface. They may have sent out teams to look at it, but many began to get sick, so Liberty Island was quarantined until they could figure out what to do -- not telling the public why of course.

I suspect that Rob knows about the outbreak through his work with Tagruato, which explains his lack of surprise, and his apparent lack of concern for the monster outside when he's asking for help because "she's dying."

In any case, the "thing" that washed ashore would have been all over the news, so when it suddenly awoke and started its redecorating of NYC, people would naturally be surprised that it was a live, and that it was bigger than first suspected. Hence the line "it's alive, it's huge."


I don't think so -- remember the part of the trailer when he's like "seven hours ago...some THING attacked the city" -- doesn't seem like something you'd say in reference to a creature that's been splashed all over the news already.

Also, the new placement of "it's alive" in the trailer (or at least, that's what I hear) seems like it comes near the end, so they might be wondering if the military actually killed it. (Thus, "it's alive" just means "no, they haven't killed it.")


I would agree if we new that the trailer was shot in the correct timeline. Usually, trailer scenes jump around in regards to the actual storyline. So i dont know that what order things happen in the trailer actually happen in the movie much after the statue of liberty head comes flying. I think everything after that could be anybodys guess as to when it actually happens in the movie.

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what does bother me...

...in the trailer, someone off camera is pretty adamently trying to get Rob's attention in that convenience store or whatever, in the middle of this craziness, repeatedly saying "Rob!" until Rob turns and he says "I saw it, it's ali--*explosion*"

this doesn't seem lke a throw-away panicked exclamation like the teaser's 'I saw it, It's live, It's huge"

It seems like an awkward exchange, as if the guy needs to tell rob, as if rob would have some perevious knowledge. I dunno, obvious speculation...

Then again, yes, in the movie this could fall sometime after they've maybe thought the monster was killed, but the focus on telling rob specifically that it's alive(which i assume he says, but he does get cut off) bothers me.

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SuperSquirrel wrote:

It is funny you should mention this. I posted this last night:
Lurker here. I have had a theory knocking around for a while. With the newest pictures and fragments seen, I have to ask this one. Do you think it came out of the SoL? It kind of looks like the SoL walking around. It carried the Head of the SoL through the city for a minute. Everyone is saying "IT is Alive" like they cannot believe that it is alive. Maybe something activated a monster coming out of the statue? (long strech) Or maybe what ever it is took the form of the first thing it saw (the SoL)? From some of the earlier clues and now the recent 'monster captures' I thought I would 'put it out there'!



Ohhh, I like this.

I think the big thing people are missing is possibly it is not THE outer shell of the SoL but infact lived inside it, how I'm not even going to get into. So it's shell being the SoL it molted into the shape of the SoL from the inside???

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no matter how you look at it, the SoL as a monster would suck

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Blacraven wrote:
no matter how you look at it, the SoL as a monster would suck


It's like Ghostbusters 2 gone bad. Maybe the river of goo was slusho.

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I was wondering if the only reason for the second it's alive comment was only to dispel the crazy 'it's a lion' debates.

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